You mean, they should do more valenwood for the bosmer as other race?TheShadowScout wrote: »
No thanks. Dunmer got some nice attention in Morrowind and Orcs in Wrothgar. The other races deserve some lore attention as well before a new race is added.
TheShadowScout wrote: »Oh? Since when?emilyhyoyeon wrote: »the only reasonable one would be the maormer but I would prefer no more be added.
Plus we already have 4 and a half mer..
Ilithyania wrote: »Maormer.. assuming its the same as snowelves
Not exactly, only when someone went and redefined orsimer from betmer to mer race, and started counting the bretons half with the mer and not the humans as wellstarkerealm wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »Oh? Since when?emilyhyoyeon wrote: »the only reasonable one would be the maormer but I would prefer no more be added.
Plus we already have 4 and a half mer..
For the last 15 years or so.
Exactly!starkerealm wrote: »Ilithyania wrote: »Maormer.. assuming its the same as snowelves
Maomer are the Sea Elves. You encounter them in several Dominion quests, and a handful are scattered throughout the game.
The Snow Elves were Falmer. At this point they're effectively extinct with only one (known) living survivor. Which puts them in roughly the same position as the Dwemer for playble (one known survivor.)
TheShadowScout wrote: »Not exactly, only when someone went and redefined orsimer from betmer to mer race, and started counting the bretons half with the mer and not the humans as wellstarkerealm wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »Oh? Since when?emilyhyoyeon wrote: »the only reasonable one would be the maormer but I would prefer no more be added.
Plus we already have 4 and a half mer..
For the last 15 years or so.
Bretons have been counted as "human race" ever since I stumbled across the elder scrolls series with TES-II:Daggerfall...
Looking it up... that info sems to be inaccurate?starkerealm wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »Not exactly, only when someone went and redefined orsimer from betmer to mer race, and started counting the bretons half with the mer and not the humans as wellstarkerealm wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »Oh? Since when?emilyhyoyeon wrote: »the only reasonable one would be the maormer but I would prefer no more be added.
Plus we already have 4 and a half mer..
For the last 15 years or so.
Bretons have been counted as "human race" ever since I stumbled across the elder scrolls series with TES-II:Daggerfall...
Yeah, in Arena, they're actually called Half-Elves on the character creation screen, as I recall.
So... druids. Not half-elves. Not like that info ever showed up again in any TES lore I know of...Bretons are a tall, dark-haired people. Bretons are highly intelligent and willful people, and have an outgoing personality. It is said that Bretons are weaned on magic, for it seems to suffuse their very being. As a result Bretons take half damage on any Magic based attack, and no damage on a successful save. They are excellent in all the arcane arts.
Upon selection of the Breton race, the player is informed with the following concerning Bretons:
Know ye this also:
Thy race is descended from the ancient Druids of Galen, quick witted and strong in the mystical arts. Thy folks are crafty and intelligent, a learned people who use their gifts to guide others to enlightenment...
TheShadowScout wrote: »Looking it up... that info sems to be inaccurate?starkerealm wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »Not exactly, only when someone went and redefined orsimer from betmer to mer race, and started counting the bretons half with the mer and not the humans as wellstarkerealm wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »Oh? Since when?emilyhyoyeon wrote: »the only reasonable one would be the maormer but I would prefer no more be added.
Plus we already have 4 and a half mer..
For the last 15 years or so.
Bretons have been counted as "human race" ever since I stumbled across the elder scrolls series with TES-II:Daggerfall...
Yeah, in Arena, they're actually called Half-Elves on the character creation screen, as I recall.
TheShadowScout wrote: »Well, as it has been stated in some places...TheShadowScout wrote: »Oh? Since when?emilyhyoyeon wrote: »the only reasonable one would be the maormer but I would prefer no more be added.
Plus we already have 4 and a half mer..
We have three mer races:
Altmer
Bosmer
Dunmer
We have four man races:
Breton (Yes, even with their partially elvish blood they are counted as mannish race!)
Imperial
Nord
Redguard
We have two beast races:
Argonian
Khajiit
And we have one race that some count among the mer, others among the beast races:
Orcs
Maormer would fit right in. So would Reachmen. It -would- make sense for a beast race as well of course, and the most likely for that slot might be the Imga...
...BUT they could make Maormer, Reachmen and Gobbos at very little effort, since those three are in the game, have their own crafting style and all, while the Imga would need more effort and thus more investment... so I would think IF they decided to add more races, they would first test the waters with those they can add on the cheap, and only spend effort (and money) to add those more involved if that test release sells well...
So, logically any racial releases would start with the three already in game - and only got to more if those found wide acceptance by people voting with their wallet and buying those races (I know I would!) And then they could add Imga and while they're at it, perhaps also the akaviri races...
Orcs are mer and bretons are half mer. Orcs are more techinically called Orsimer, see the mer at the end? This makes them mer, as lore has also stated time and time again.There you have it then.Orcs have elven blood, but are usually considered to be beastfolk.
By the way, calling the orsimer elf-kin would be a good way to *** off any proud altmer, bosmer or dunmer...
Also, Bretons are not half-mer, it is not half-half, but rather... predominantely human, but with strong elven traits. Maybe ¾ human and ¼ elven, or something like that. Like it generally is stated:Thus the bretons are counted as a human race, and the orcs as a beastfolk race...Bretons are the human descendants of the Aldmeri-Nedic Manmer of the Merethic Era and are now the inhabitants of the province of High Rock...
Oh, and by the way... some lore also attributes an elven ancestry to the Khajiit, just sayin... and yet we still all agree they are definitely a betmer race...True. And while they ought to be around valenwood as well, they seem curiously absent, probably because noone thought to include them, they are somewhat obscure in TES lore after all, with no prior game getting into much detail for valenwood...The Imga are the only actually logical choice given the lore, but they're in Falinesti, wherever that is at this point.True for the maormer as a whole. Not neccessarily for individuals.The Maormer don't care about Tamrielic cultures enough to want to help or mingle with them. They just really hate the Altmer and want to destroy them.
Though it -would- make a bit of sense for some of those races to have "forbidden" alliances... like, say, if they added the maormer race, they might only allow them for covenant and pact characters, due to the generations of bad blood between the maormer and the altmer in the dominion... same for akaviri races and the pact... or possibly reachmen and the covenant...Also true, but the knarhaten flu happened only twenty years before ESO. It is concievable that some individuals may have survived on account of having been outside black marsh when it hit, and ended up on mannimarcos sacrifical table to start the ESO story, yes?I would say Lilmothiit but they're supposedly extinct....have been gone for -ages-, since the early first era to be exact. The survivors from their fall have almost certainly all been assimilated into the altmer culture (where else would an elf race from cyrodil flee after all?)Ayleid.Not really possible, story-wise. For one they would be "kill on sight" for both town guards and all players... for another, noone would even trust a deadra to actually help them with their quest, so none of the quest givers would actually give a daedric player a quest to follow!Anti_Virus wrote: »Rouge/Freewill Dremora or Xyifkyn
...
...though it would be cool to play an elder scrolls game "from the other side", make daedric characters, start in oblivion, travel to nirn (Possibly even be... summoned by a mortal!) to quest in support of some daedric agenda, or to protect oblivion from some dire threat, fighting the mortals of tamriel as mobs... and "adventuer groups" as bossfights... But sadly, that would be an entirely new game. I'd buy it, I'd play it, but it wouldn't be ESO...
Ilithyania wrote: »Maormer.. assuming its the same as snowelves
It would be very easy for them to make a Maormer skin to use with High Elves. I don't want a polymorph, though, because then they'd all look alike.having new race as a skin/polymorph seems to be a nice compromise between those that want no new races because of their ES history and those that want to try new races.
You mean, like anyone who liked gobbos can use the shadowsilk gem and then... walk around feeling like a star wars clone trooper?I chose the sea elves but maybe they could add the other races some of them as polymorphs and some as skins that way not really adding a race with new skill line but are adding a new race for looks. Although for new race I'd like to be able fashion my own clothing choices for them. But perhaps for each skin/polymorph can have male and female versions and perhaps for the ones with fur can have choices with different color fur
having new race as a skin/polymorph seems to be a nice compromise between those that want no new races because of their ES history and those that want to try new races.
Read it again...Your link supposedly supporting your claim that Brettons are merely 1/4 elf does not seem to have information that actually supports that without reading much into it. It also does not make sense because it should be fairly factual that the first offspring from an elf mating with a Nedic female would be half elf.
Is there a different name for those who were the first offspring?
And once more...TheShadowScout wrote: »Also, Bretons are not half-mer, it is not half-half, but rather... predominantely human, but with strong elven traits. Maybe ¾ human and ¼ elven, or something like that. Like it generally is stated:Thus the bretons are counted as a human race, and the orcs as a beastfolk race...Bretons are the human descendants of the Aldmeri-Nedic Manmer of the Merethic Era and are now the inhabitants of the province of High Rock...
See it now?Bretons are the human descendants of the Aldmeri-Nedic Manmer of the Merethic Era and are now the inhabitants of the province of High Rock...
SilverIce58 wrote: »Shezzarrine wrote: »None of these besides Maormer or Reachmen would even be possible, and I don't even think Reachmen are their own race
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Reachmen
"Their ancestry is not solely Breton, but spreads across many of the known races of Tamriel." They're an even more mongrel race than their breton kin.