Solar Barrage

Metafae

I've logged on and tried this skill after seeing its changes in the patch notes. In short, you're changing a costly good skill into a costly useless skill.

But let me explain myself. This skill previously was quite good in what it did, sure it had some clunkiness in the way it was cast but that was a minor issue, same thing happens with other skills like healing ward or necrotic orbs.

The new version of this skill now has the same cast time as dark flare, meaning you stand still for over 1 second before the first tick of damage comes, this essentially makes it highly undesirable.

I suggest removing the cast time. Remove the empower buff from the skill. Increase the duration to 8 seconds. This would make it an amazing skill and competitive with dark flare.

Make minor adjustments to its damage and cost. Templars are in a tough spot right now. Dealing with this skill the right way may help a lot.

Latin

Having looked at it yesterday, I agree with your assertion that the skill is still rather undesirable due to its cast time.

Idinuse

Metafae wrote: »

I've logged on and tried this skill after seeing its changes in the patch notes. In short, you're changing a costly good skill into a costly useless skill.

But let me explain myself. This skill previously was quite good in what it did, sure it had some clunkiness in the way it was cast but that was a minor issue, same thing happens with other skills like healing ward or necrotic orbs.

The new version of this skill now has the same cast time as dark flare, meaning you stand still for over 1 second before the first tick of damage comes, this essentially makes it highly undesirable.

I suggest removing the cast time. Remove the empower buff from the skill. Increase the duration to 8 seconds. This would make it an amazing skill and competitive with dark flare.

Make minor adjustments to its damage and cost. Templars are in a tough spot right now. Dealing with this skill the right way may help a lot.

And, oh boy, aren't we fed up with that on the majority of our Class Skill arsenal?

DeHei

Nearly all skills with casttime are complete useless. They are not flexible enough, that you able to find enough situations to use them. Together with that, there are a lot of better one without casttime. So again "GOOD JOB" to nerf templar more and more. But this really doesnt matter, the skill was useless before and now its just total useless

Metafae

DeHei wrote: »

Nearly all skills with casttime are complete useless. They are not flexible enough, that you able to find enough situations to use them. Together with that, there are a lot of better one without casttime. So again "GOOD JOB" to nerf templar more and more. But this really doesnt matter, the skill was useless before and now its just total useless

I kind of agree with that part. It was useless before, though if it was a cheap skill I'd love to use it, it just never was.

Now with the cast time its basically made it not worth my time.

It would have been interesting to have it act like the Scamp Pet's pulse but cast on self and magic damage instead of shock.

But knowing ZoS, having skills too closely similar in behavior is just a no-no. Not unique enough. I get it though.

Metafae

Here's an idea to package it in a unique way:

Have it pulse exactly 5 times over 8 seconds.
Instant cast.

Ticks of damage go like this:

• 0s - 100% damage
• 2s - 75% damage
• 4s - 50% damage
• 6s - 25% damage
• 8s - 250% damage

The total is as if it just did 100% each pulse, but it stores that damage up to the last pulse which encourages the user to let it run through to the end.

It could be interesting to add a bonus effect on the final pulse too, but I don't want to get greedy.

This would have use it both pve and pvp. As it provides consistent dps in pve and allows for burst in pvp.

Edit:

I think and interesting bonus for final pulse could be restore x magicka per enemy hit by final pulse? We all know Templars need sustain help.

DeHei

Metafae wrote: »

Here's an idea to package it in a unique way:

Have it pulse exactly 5 times over 8 seconds.
Instant cast.

Ticks of damage go like this:

• 0s - 100% damage
• 2s - 75% damage
• 4s - 50% damage
• 6s - 25% damage
• 8s - 250% damage

The total is as if it just did 100% each pulse, but it stores that damage up to the last pulse which encourages the user to let it run through to the end.

It could be interesting to add a bonus effect on the final pulse too, but I don't want to get greedy.

This would have use it both pve and pvp. As it provides consistent dps in pve and allows for burst in pvp.

Edit:

I think and interesting bonus for final pulse could be restore x magicka per enemy hit by final pulse? We all know Templars need sustain help.

There could be changes in some ways to resurrect this skill, but i dont think so... next change we see in 1 year or something like that.

We can be happy, as more worse as is actually is it cant be!
They should change it to an empty slot... will nothing change for playing templar... In both ways we can hope for some kind of buffs... but a buff of 0% is maybe just 10% and also useless!

Cinbri

DeHei wrote: »

Metafae wrote: »

Here's an idea to package it in a unique way:

Have it pulse exactly 5 times over 8 seconds.
Instant cast.

Ticks of damage go like this:

• 0s - 100% damage
• 2s - 75% damage
• 4s - 50% damage
• 6s - 25% damage
• 8s - 250% damage

The total is as if it just did 100% each pulse, but it stores that damage up to the last pulse which encourages the user to let it run through to the end.

It could be interesting to add a bonus effect on the final pulse too, but I don't want to get greedy.

This would have use it both pve and pvp. As it provides consistent dps in pve and allows for burst in pvp.

Edit:

I think and interesting bonus for final pulse could be restore x magicka per enemy hit by final pulse? We all know Templars need sustain help.

There could be changes in some ways to resurrect this skill, but i dont think so... next change we see in 1 year or something like that.

We can be happy, as more worse as is actually is it cant be!
They should change it to an empty slot... will nothing change for playing templar... In both ways we can hope for some kind of buffs... but a buff of 0% is maybe just 10% and also useless!

Then it should restore stamina on final. Why? Coz dk already have skill that restore mana, and templar have no skill for stamina return while already have 3 skills for mana return. The more enemies you hit with aoe the more stamina you get, remove cast time, empower and if it sound too OP - make it proc two times instead of three.

DeHei

Cinbri wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Metafae wrote: »

Here's an idea to package it in a unique way:

Have it pulse exactly 5 times over 8 seconds.
Instant cast.

Ticks of damage go like this:

• 0s - 100% damage
• 2s - 75% damage
• 4s - 50% damage
• 6s - 25% damage
• 8s - 250% damage

The total is as if it just did 100% each pulse, but it stores that damage up to the last pulse which encourages the user to let it run through to the end.

It could be interesting to add a bonus effect on the final pulse too, but I don't want to get greedy.

This would have use it both pve and pvp. As it provides consistent dps in pve and allows for burst in pvp.

Edit:

I think and interesting bonus for final pulse could be restore x magicka per enemy hit by final pulse? We all know Templars need sustain help.

There could be changes in some ways to resurrect this skill, but i dont think so... next change we see in 1 year or something like that.

We can be happy, as more worse as is actually is it cant be!
They should change it to an empty slot... will nothing change for playing templar... In both ways we can hope for some kind of buffs... but a buff of 0% is maybe just 10% and also useless!

Then it should restore stamina on final. Why? Coz dk already have skill that restore mana, and templar have no skill for stamina return while already have 3 skills for mana return. The more enemies you hit with aoe the more stamina you get, remove cast time, empower and if it sound too OP - make it proc two times instead of three.

Mate i dont speak about some kind of sustainchanges... Good templar really dont need more sustain... this isnt one of the templarproblems. Staminarestore would be ok, but why?
We need better damageoptions and we have enough areadamage, we dont need more of that! Some useful singletargetskills are much more important.

Cinbri

Well, It was based on Metafae suggestion about mana restore. As you mentioned skill was crap and after change it still will be crap, so I thinking how to make it more usefull. All classes have stamina restore ability, all beside Templar and Solar Barrage was and will be aoe dd skill coz other morph of it is already single target damage ability. But in case of Barrage - it is useless aoe ability. Making it some kind of aoe that as good as dk's Essence Draw would make it strong and could give Templars option to either choose Shards or Barrage in pvp or both at once for aoe burn. Shards can only support others, while Barrage could support own caster.

Brutusmax1mus

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

DeHei

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

danno8

Metafae wrote: »

I've logged on and tried this skill after seeing its changes in the patch notes. In short, you're changing a costly good skill into a costly useless skill.

But let me explain myself. This skill previously was quite good in what it did, sure it had some clunkiness in the way it was cast but that was a minor issue, same thing happens with other skills like healing ward or necrotic orbs.

The new version of this skill now has the same cast time as dark flare, meaning you stand still for over 1 second before the first tick of damage comes, this essentially makes it highly undesirable.

I suggest removing the cast time. Remove the empower buff from the skill. Increase the duration to 8 seconds. This would make it an amazing skill and competitive with dark flare.

Make minor adjustments to its damage and cost. Templars are in a tough spot right now. Dealing with this skill the right way may help a lot.

It just needs the cast time removed.

Also, the first tick of damage is at the 2 second mark after the one-second cast time. So you are waiting 3 seconds before the first tick of damage.

I would also say that the skill IS better than the current live one, since you are getting the same damage 3X for the same cost. It's the cast time that kills it.

DeHei

danno8 wrote: »

Metafae wrote: »

I've logged on and tried this skill after seeing its changes in the patch notes. In short, you're changing a costly good skill into a costly useless skill.

But let me explain myself. This skill previously was quite good in what it did, sure it had some clunkiness in the way it was cast but that was a minor issue, same thing happens with other skills like healing ward or necrotic orbs.

The new version of this skill now has the same cast time as dark flare, meaning you stand still for over 1 second before the first tick of damage comes, this essentially makes it highly undesirable.

I suggest removing the cast time. Remove the empower buff from the skill. Increase the duration to 8 seconds. This would make it an amazing skill and competitive with dark flare.

Make minor adjustments to its damage and cost. Templars are in a tough spot right now. Dealing with this skill the right way may help a lot.

It just needs the cast time removed.

Also, the first tick of damage is at the 2 second mark after the one-second cast time. So you are waiting 3 seconds before the first tick of damage.

I would also say that the skill IS better than the current live one, since you are getting the same damage 3X for the same cost. It's the cast time that kills it.

With no casttime, the damage will also be too low. No reason to use this skill!

ToRelax

DeHei wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Metafae wrote: »

I've logged on and tried this skill after seeing its changes in the patch notes. In short, you're changing a costly good skill into a costly useless skill.

But let me explain myself. This skill previously was quite good in what it did, sure it had some clunkiness in the way it was cast but that was a minor issue, same thing happens with other skills like healing ward or necrotic orbs.

The new version of this skill now has the same cast time as dark flare, meaning you stand still for over 1 second before the first tick of damage comes, this essentially makes it highly undesirable.

I suggest removing the cast time. Remove the empower buff from the skill. Increase the duration to 8 seconds. This would make it an amazing skill and competitive with dark flare.

Make minor adjustments to its damage and cost. Templars are in a tough spot right now. Dealing with this skill the right way may help a lot.

It just needs the cast time removed.

Also, the first tick of damage is at the 2 second mark after the one-second cast time. So you are waiting 3 seconds before the first tick of damage.

I would also say that the skill IS better than the current live one, since you are getting the same damage 3X for the same cost. It's the cast time that kills it.

With no casttime, the damage will also be too low. No reason to use this skill!

It's delayed damage. That's the reason to use this skill. Whether it's good enough to warrant a place on one's skill bar is another matter, but if someone had the space for it, it would be used in PvP.

DeHei

ToRelax wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Metafae wrote: »

I've logged on and tried this skill after seeing its changes in the patch notes. In short, you're changing a costly good skill into a costly useless skill.

But let me explain myself. This skill previously was quite good in what it did, sure it had some clunkiness in the way it was cast but that was a minor issue, same thing happens with other skills like healing ward or necrotic orbs.

The new version of this skill now has the same cast time as dark flare, meaning you stand still for over 1 second before the first tick of damage comes, this essentially makes it highly undesirable.

I suggest removing the cast time. Remove the empower buff from the skill. Increase the duration to 8 seconds. This would make it an amazing skill and competitive with dark flare.

Make minor adjustments to its damage and cost. Templars are in a tough spot right now. Dealing with this skill the right way may help a lot.

It just needs the cast time removed.

Also, the first tick of damage is at the 2 second mark after the one-second cast time. So you are waiting 3 seconds before the first tick of damage.

I would also say that the skill IS better than the current live one, since you are getting the same damage 3X for the same cost. It's the cast time that kills it.

With no casttime, the damage will also be too low. No reason to use this skill!

It's delayed damage. That's the reason to use this skill. Whether it's good enough to warrant a place on one's skill bar is another matter, but if someone had the space for it, it would be used in PvP.

this argument with delaying damage doesnt convince me... My dots all scale higher then this and i dont need cast them 1 sec...

danno8

DeHei wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Metafae wrote: »

I've logged on and tried this skill after seeing its changes in the patch notes. In short, you're changing a costly good skill into a costly useless skill.

But let me explain myself. This skill previously was quite good in what it did, sure it had some clunkiness in the way it was cast but that was a minor issue, same thing happens with other skills like healing ward or necrotic orbs.

The new version of this skill now has the same cast time as dark flare, meaning you stand still for over 1 second before the first tick of damage comes, this essentially makes it highly undesirable.

I suggest removing the cast time. Remove the empower buff from the skill. Increase the duration to 8 seconds. This would make it an amazing skill and competitive with dark flare.

Make minor adjustments to its damage and cost. Templars are in a tough spot right now. Dealing with this skill the right way may help a lot.

It just needs the cast time removed.

Also, the first tick of damage is at the 2 second mark after the one-second cast time. So you are waiting 3 seconds before the first tick of damage.

I would also say that the skill IS better than the current live one, since you are getting the same damage 3X for the same cost. It's the cast time that kills it.

With no casttime, the damage will also be too low. No reason to use this skill!

There is extra value in it being PBAoE, so I am ok with the damage not being as high as Blazing Spear (although it is really close to BS including Burning Light for overall DPS) or WoE.

I wouldn't mind seeing an extra pulse on cast though. Right now it starts at the 2 second mark, then 4s, then 6s. I would like to see 0s, 2s, 4s, 6s.

Brutusmax1mus

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

DeHei

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

Brutusmax1mus

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

The empower is useless on a dot build. Templars literally have 1 spell worth empowering and it's the other morph lol...

DeHei

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

The empower is useless on a dot build. Templars literally have 1 spell worth empowering and it's the other morph lol...

The skill allways gives the empower buff... but this dont makes it much better...

Brutusmax1mus

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

The empower is useless on a dot build. Templars literally have 1 spell worth empowering and it's the other morph lol...

The skill allways gives the empower buff... but this dont makes it much better...

I know, I'm saying Templars don't have skills worth empowering. Unless it's dark flare.

DeHei

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

The empower is useless on a dot build. Templars literally have 1 spell worth empowering and it's the other morph lol...

The skill allways gives the empower buff... but this dont makes it much better...

I know, I'm saying Templars don't have skills worth empowering. Unless it's dark flare.

ah right. I agree. I would prefer 10% or 20% damagebuffs

Minno

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

The empower is useless on a dot build. Templars literally have 1 spell worth empowering and it's the other morph lol...

The skill allways gives the empower buff... but this dont makes it much better...

I know, I'm saying Templars don't have skills worth empowering. Unless it's dark flare.

Fire staff heavy attack+Ultimates are the only skills worth saving the emower for. Dark flare better synergies with this.

With 1 second cast time, it means the spell will have consistent use on starting attacks, but because it is melee range I can see crushing shock locking your burst down. It's better to use the new eclipse over this spell because that spell is instant cast, though it does hardly any burst dmg.

To practice this spells cast time effectiveness, try using dark flare on live and rushing in for melee. Then try to los and recast; you'll find yourself wanting what unstable core on live gives you since that essentially is what the new solar barrage is on pts DMG wise.

Brutusmax1mus

Minno wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

The empower is useless on a dot build. Templars literally have 1 spell worth empowering and it's the other morph lol...

The skill allways gives the empower buff... but this dont makes it much better...

I know, I'm saying Templars don't have skills worth empowering. Unless it's dark flare.

Fire staff heavy attack+Ultimates are the only skills worth saving the emower for. Dark flare better synergies with this.

With 1 second cast time, it means the spell will have consistent use on starting attacks, but because it is melee range I can see crushing shock locking your burst down. It's better to use the new eclipse over this spell because that spell is instant cast, though it does hardly any burst dmg.

To practice this spells cast time effectiveness, try using dark flare on live and rushing in for melee. Then try to los and recast; you'll find yourself wanting what unstable core on live gives you since that essentially is what the new solar barrage is on pts DMG wise.

What numbers are you seeing with what gear set up? Any idea on what cp it's scaling with?

Minno

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

The empower is useless on a dot build. Templars literally have 1 spell worth empowering and it's the other morph lol...

The skill allways gives the empower buff... but this dont makes it much better...

I know, I'm saying Templars don't have skills worth empowering. Unless it's dark flare.

Fire staff heavy attack+Ultimates are the only skills worth saving the emower for. Dark flare better synergies with this.

With 1 second cast time, it means the spell will have consistent use on starting attacks, but because it is melee range I can see crushing shock locking your burst down. It's better to use the new eclipse over this spell because that spell is instant cast, though it does hardly any burst dmg.

To practice this spells cast time effectiveness, try using dark flare on live and rushing in for melee. Then try to los and recast; you'll find yourself wanting what unstable core on live gives you since that essentially is what the new solar barrage is on pts DMG wise.

What numbers are you seeing with what gear set up? Any idea on what cp it's scaling with?

9k crits on pve. 5k roughly normal DMG. Includes both reflects and burst. The reflect seemed to crit more than the final burst. In PvP, before mitigation, I can see each reflect doing 2.5k DMG and crit for 5k. Then another burst for 2.5k. because it's instant cast you can quickly hit an enemy when you need them to take the spell.

Only problem is the aoe DMG won't be cast on immunity enemies which cause now mag drain. Which impacts this severely. But they are both still niche spells on pts. If I see the solar barrage aoe, I'll probably try to immobilize you or kite till its done. Then while you are trying to recast, I'll lay down pur lght+jabs+debuffs+ultimate +silence cc to deny you the opener. You'll be in the defensive instead of recasting .

Brutusmax1mus

Minno wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

The empower is useless on a dot build. Templars literally have 1 spell worth empowering and it's the other morph lol...

The skill allways gives the empower buff... but this dont makes it much better...

I know, I'm saying Templars don't have skills worth empowering. Unless it's dark flare.

Fire staff heavy attack+Ultimates are the only skills worth saving the emower for. Dark flare better synergies with this.

With 1 second cast time, it means the spell will have consistent use on starting attacks, but because it is melee range I can see crushing shock locking your burst down. It's better to use the new eclipse over this spell because that spell is instant cast, though it does hardly any burst dmg.

To practice this spells cast time effectiveness, try using dark flare on live and rushing in for melee. Then try to los and recast; you'll find yourself wanting what unstable core on live gives you since that essentially is what the new solar barrage is on pts DMG wise.

What numbers are you seeing with what gear set up? Any idea on what cp it's scaling with?

9k crits on pve. 5k roughly normal DMG. Includes both reflects and burst. The reflect seemed to crit more than the final burst. In PvP, before mitigation, I can see each reflect doing 2.5k DMG and crit for 5k. Then another burst for 2.5k. because it's instant cast you can quickly hit an enemy when you need them to take the spell.

Only problem is the aoe DMG won't be cast on immunity enemies which cause now mag drain. Which impacts this severely. But they are both still niche spells on pts. If I see the solar barrage aoe, I'll probably try to immobilize you or kite till its done. Then while you are trying to recast, I'll lay down pur lght+jabs+debuffs+ultimate +silence cc to deny you the opener. You'll be in the defensive instead of recasting .

Im talking about solar barrage, not eclipse. Are you?

Minno

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

I think you guys are overlooking the skill. It has a cast time yes, but it doesn't snare you. You'll be able to cast it in line of sight situations as well.

One of my favorite things about it is is delay. At 2, 4 and 6 seconds. This lets you cast barrage start the fight wth out wasting any damage.

Cast barrage and cancel with a bane, pol followed by a toppling charge. Jab weave into empowering sweep or dawn breaker. You'll have 4 sources of damage ticking on top of your jabs not to mention the burst with your ultimate up front and pol to follow. Add in skoria or groth... it'll be guuud. I already use this combo to great effect without the added damage.

With the cast time it will make it more difficult to keep up, but 1 stun or if the opponent backs off to recover are always going to occur. If they remove the cast time it 100%has a spot on my bar. Might have to run rattle or spell power pots. Degeneration will prob be the one leaving me.

Of course we all have to go destro with the new staff, so dw destro it is. 100%up time on those status effects is NUTS for pvp.

Just no... that will not work just because of the 1 seconds casttime. Instantcasts just dont need to compare it with there damage, you can do an instantcast and a weaponattack in same time you need to cast this crap. Templar have allready 3 very good aoe damage effects. No need for 1 more, so pls change it into something we need:
A hard aoe CC without damage or something with aoe root effect with low damage or a good single target spell with CC, BUT pls without any casttime. Casttime is allways a nogo in PvP and not flexible for damage in PvE. When this skill should become useful anytime with casttime, the damage must be much higher!

Turn a corner and cast. I've anyone would love this it should be you @DeHei. It will complement a overwhelming surge build incredibly. Surge, blockade, vamp bane, pol. Isn't that what you do? Add another stacked damage source. Sweet.

You're right though, the cast time will be tough to keep up constantly if you can't get a moment alone. Typically with mist that is very easy to do though.

I'd love the cast time removed.

Either way, we need a hard cc through block like every other class has.

I dont would know, which skill i unslot for this. When it would bring me more benefits then a small damage, i would be happy. But damage is low and it has no other effect. Every skill of my build gives me 2 or more effects in some way. This more damage effect for next attack isnt a good one in my eyes....

The empower is useless on a dot build. Templars literally have 1 spell worth empowering and it's the other morph lol...

The skill allways gives the empower buff... but this dont makes it much better...

I know, I'm saying Templars don't have skills worth empowering. Unless it's dark flare.

Fire staff heavy attack+Ultimates are the only skills worth saving the emower for. Dark flare better synergies with this.

With 1 second cast time, it means the spell will have consistent use on starting attacks, but because it is melee range I can see crushing shock locking your burst down. It's better to use the new eclipse over this spell because that spell is instant cast, though it does hardly any burst dmg.

To practice this spells cast time effectiveness, try using dark flare on live and rushing in for melee. Then try to los and recast; you'll find yourself wanting what unstable core on live gives you since that essentially is what the new solar barrage is on pts DMG wise.

What numbers are you seeing with what gear set up? Any idea on what cp it's scaling with?

9k crits on pve. 5k roughly normal DMG. Includes both reflects and burst. The reflect seemed to crit more than the final burst. In PvP, before mitigation, I can see each reflect doing 2.5k DMG and crit for 5k. Then another burst for 2.5k. because it's instant cast you can quickly hit an enemy when you need them to take the spell.

Only problem is the aoe DMG won't be cast on immunity enemies which cause now mag drain. Which impacts this severely. But they are both still niche spells on pts. If I see the solar barrage aoe, I'll probably try to immobilize you or kite till its done. Then while you are trying to recast, I'll lay down pur lght+jabs+debuffs+ultimate +silence cc to deny you the opener. You'll be in the defensive instead of recasting .

Im talking about solar barrage, not eclipse. Are you?

DMG wise, eclipse.

For that solar barrage, it's roughly 2k per tick with 3 ticks. Total of 6 k DMG but 1 second cast time that you can be cc'd in and have to get in range. And you'll still subject to immobilze spells. Can you cast mist form after you cast solar barrage? If not, good luck against DKs or ranged immobilze; forward momentum would be better for this spell.

Compared to 2.5 k per reflect+ 2.5k final DMG means unstable core on pts would be better, assuming the enemy will hit you a couple of times. Because of the instant cast, you can choose when to apply it but because of the cc immunity forcing the spell to never take effect it's unreliable. Edit: 3 reflects of UC will exceed 3 ticks of solar barrage.

I can see issues for both, but without reliability, these spells will be dropped in favor of other spells.

Metafae

I think we can all agree, this new version of Solar Barrage is not very useful at all. I do hope they try some more adjustments to it before going live. But it is no big loss if it goes live with how they have changed it. It's not like anyone was using it before.

DDuke

Minno wrote: »

For that solar barrage, it's roughly 2k per tick with 3 ticks. Total of 6 k DMG but 1 second cast time that you can be cc'd in and have to get in range. And you'll still subject to immobilze spells. Can you cast mist form after you cast solar barrage? If not, good luck against DKs or ranged immobilze; forward momentum would be better for this spell.

Compared to 2.5 k per reflect+ 2.5k final DMG means unstable core on pts would be better, assuming the enemy will hit you a couple of times. Because of the instant cast, you can choose when to apply it but because of the cc immunity forcing the spell to never take effect it's unreliable. Edit: 3 reflects of UC will exceed 3 ticks of solar barrage.

I can see issues for both, but without reliability, these spells will be dropped in favor of other spells.

That's in heavy armor without Wrath stacks, not even full dmg gear.

It also procs Skoria based on my tests.


What you can do with it is combine it with both Unstable Core (explosion deals same dmg as one Barrage tick) & Purifying Light as well as Soul Assault for some disgusting damage.


I think people are writing this skill off too quickly.

Brutusmax1mus

DDuke wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

For that solar barrage, it's roughly 2k per tick with 3 ticks. Total of 6 k DMG but 1 second cast time that you can be cc'd in and have to get in range. And you'll still subject to immobilze spells. Can you cast mist form after you cast solar barrage? If not, good luck against DKs or ranged immobilze; forward momentum would be better for this spell.

Compared to 2.5 k per reflect+ 2.5k final DMG means unstable core on pts would be better, assuming the enemy will hit you a couple of times. Because of the instant cast, you can choose when to apply it but because of the cc immunity forcing the spell to never take effect it's unreliable. Edit: 3 reflects of UC will exceed 3 ticks of solar barrage.

I can see issues for both, but without reliability, these spells will be dropped in favor of other spells.

That's in heavy armor without Wrath stacks, not even full dmg gear.

It also procs Skoria based on my tests.


What you can do with it is combine it with both Unstable Core (explosion deals same dmg as one Barrage tick) & Purifying Light as well as Soul Assault for some disgusting damage.


I think people are writing this skill off too quickly.

What sets are you running? Also, have you tested what cp it's working with?