Where do Elder Scrolls players fall on the Bartle Test?

PurpleDrank

Explorer

Karminathevamp wrote: »

Lots of explorers and achievers in this thread, but just a few socialisers. That tells you a lot about these types of game.

This is actually the weirdest part for me. I've seen this test on the forums of other games I've played over the years and Socialiser is usually pretty high up there. In fact the first time I saw this was on the Ultima Online forums and Socialiser was number one by a clear margin. I'm wondering if its a reflection on the Elder Scrolls franchise that explorer is so high.

Sleep

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Vulsahdaal

Explorer

You are 87% Explorer

You are also:

60% Killer

40% Achiever

13% Socialiser

This result may be abbreviated as EKAS

newtinmpls

Socialiser

thedude33 wrote: »

It is interesting, but as you say, it needs updating.

I mean questions like this made me stop taking the test.

You're a player in an online game, and about to go into an unknown dungeon. You have your choice of one more person for your party. Do you bring:

1.A Bard, who's a good friend of yours,and who's great for entertaining you and your friends
2. A Wizard, to identify the items you find there.

I liked that question; it kind of spoke to what kind of personality would I want to bring into an undaunted - am I looking for "maximize the lootness" (option 2) or "have the most fun on the journey" (option 1).

I liked that the questions weren't based on any specific game, but to try to establish principles/motivation of how I do things.

Apparently I'm a SEAK

Cadbury

I couldn't verify I was human.


100% Robot

Riejael

60% Killer
60% Achiever
47% Explorer
33% Socialiser

Interesting as I normally play healers.\

Bartle system doesn't how how successful one can be in an online environment. For that you need the Three Aspects:

What you Know.
What you Have.
Who you Know.

What you Know is your player skill and knowledge of the game and ability to obtain new knowledge via playing the game or research. This is what most players attribute as being skilled in the game, 'got gud', and whether you're a newbie, noob, or not. As one of the three aspects, its important to your success, but only counts for a third.

What you Have is your character's attributes, skills, equipment, and anything that encompasses what you are currently playing. If the game has vertical progression in levels, gear, or advancement, obviously being at the top of the progression means you have an advantage. In horizontal progression it is having the right class/tool/weapon/ability for the chosen role.

Who you Know is your personal network of allies you can call upon. This is your personal friends, guildmates, groupmates, faction, ect. Everyone that can help you achieve your goal. Its also heavily based on charisma, leadership, and teamwork. this is also the most overlooked. You can have the best gear and skill in the world, but get stomped by a group of 'mediocre' players working in concert in a competitive environment.

All three aspects are equal to one another lacking in one will put a player in a disadvantage compared to one who isn't.

zyk

Explorer

73% Explorer
67% Killer
33% Socialiser
27% Achiever

EvilAutoTech

Explorer

Bartle says don't play online games. EAKS
87 Explorer
67 Achiever
40 Kuller6
7 Socializer

SFDB

Explorer

PurpleDrank wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Well... Just from seeing the questions asked in the test, its not really adapted to ESO at all, in the sense that most of the questions are irrelevant to what you do in ESO and trying to adapt them to ESO by yourself most likely leads to more or less the same answers for most people. That most likely explains the overwhelming majority of "Explorers".

For example: being the first to get some equipement from some area is totally irrelevant in ESO. There's no such thing as being uniquely geared, since most effective sets and combos are well known to everyone. There is no such thing as competition for gear, no one cares about whether they are the first to get a Divines Velidreth helmet, it doesn't inspire respect or anything else, since its literally only RNG based. It doesn't have the significance it has in other MMOs.

The questions themselves are deliberately designed not to be game specific (I should add that I did not develop the test or the theory, I just find it interesting), so its not about the specific behaviours within a specific game. The scenarios are designed to offer a choice between two things in order to determine player priorities and mindsets. So you shouldn't be answering it as "This is what I would do in ESO", but more as "Given the option of these two things, this is what I would prefer".

Problem is that for some of them, the answer I would give is "neither is interesting" and in some "I would log off and do something else for a while." So I didn't really like the test as much of it was choices that were both unappealing, but I would compliment it's creator on making a perfect simulation of what it's like to vote in an election.

WhiteNoiseMaker

Socialiser

Hrmm... Apparently SEAK for me.

You are 80% Socialiser

♥ Socialisers are interested in people, and what they have to say. The game is merely a backdrop, a common ground where things happen to players. Inter-player relationships are important: empathising with people, sympathising, joking, entertaining, listening; even merely observing people play can be rewarding - seeing them grow as individuals, maturing over time. Some exploration may be necessary so as to understand what everyone else is talking about, and points-scoring could be required to gain access to neat communicative spells available only to higher levels (as well as to obtain a certain status in the community). Killing, however, is something only ever to be excused if it's a futile, impulsive act of revenge, perpetrated upon someone who has caused intolerable pain to a dear friend. The only ultimately fulfilling thing is not how to rise levels or kill hapless drips; it's getting to know people, to undertand them, and to form beautiful, lasting relationships.

You are also:
67% Explorer
33% Achiever
20% Killer

I agree the binary nature of some of the questions is a bit limiting, but I was able to see that they're trying to measure our behavioral preferences across a number of axis's, hence the various % results that potentially add up to over 100%. :-)

zassasaurus

Explorer

80% Explorer
47% Killer
40% Socialiser
33% Achiever

but honestly I feel like for at least half of the questions I wouldn't actually do either of the options given

Anti_Virus

Killer

My result.

80% killer
15% Explorer
5% socializer

TheRealPotoroo

Achiever

Cadbury wrote: »

I couldn't verify I was human.

100% Robot

You couldn't click the check box?

Bartdude

Explorer

You are 87% Achiever
What Bartle says:
♦ Achievers regard points-gathering and rising in levels as their main goal, and all is ultimately subserviant to this. Exploration is necessary only to find new sources of treasure, or improved ways of wringing points from it. Socialising is a relaxing method of discovering what other players know about the business of accumulating points, that their knowledge can be applied to the task of gaining riches. Killing is only necessary to eliminate rivals or people who get in the way, or to gain vast amounts of points (if points are awarded for killing other players).

You are also:
60% Explorer

33% Socialiser

20% Killer

This result may be abbreviated as AESK

BigBragg

Explorer

You are 67% Explorer

53% Socialiser

47% Killer

33% Achiever

imredneckson

Socialiser

60% Socializer
53% Explorer
53% Killer
33% Achiever

That was a very close match xD.

Wabu

Test confirms I am a lousy healer.

You are 67% Killer
...
67% Achiever
33% Explorer
33% Socialiser

FloppyTouch

Killer

Wabu wrote: »

Test confirms I am a lousy healer.

You are 67% Killer
...
67% Achiever
33% Explorer
33% Socialiser

Ur BoL killed me

Saturnana

Explorer

You are;

67% Explorer

53% Socialiser

53% Achiever

27% Killer

LadyNalcarya

Explorer

PurpleDrank wrote: »

Karminathevamp wrote: »

Lots of explorers and achievers in this thread, but just a few socialisers. That tells you a lot about these types of game.

This is actually the weirdest part for me. I've seen this test on the forums of other games I've played over the years and Socialiser is usually pretty high up there. In fact the first time I saw this was on the Ultima Online forums and Socialiser was number one by a clear margin. I'm wondering if its a reflection on the Elder Scrolls franchise that explorer is so high.

Perhaps that says more about the test than about audience?
It seems that whoever created this test assumed that "socializers" = "rpers" and not even all rpers, only those who dont care about exploration or progression. This is a false dichotomy.
Also some answers dont make sense. In one question you need to choose between a house and a private channel for friends... But almost everyone has TS or Discord these days. And not every player has millions of gold to buy a castle.
There's a similar problem with "achiever" category. The majority of ESO players who fall into this category are already at cp cap and dont need to grind exp anymore.

TankinatorFR

Explorer

You are
87% Explorer
67% Socialiser
47% Achiever
00% Killer

I have some trouble with the question available...
In some way, if the result look approximately good from time to time (I've done the test 10 time in a row and get 10 pretty different results). If I wanted to get the "best result", I would need to chose answer according to what the author of the question think, and not what I think. Thus, cheating is the only way I can imagin to get the real answer.

some examples:

1) would you rather be
- popular => nope. I just want some good friends, no need for hundreds of fakes one. The quality of the relation is the most important than the quantity of relations.
- wealthy => yes. It allow me to share with my friend. I came on TESO slightly before my friends and use my spare money to help them starting, buying horse, inventory space... Recently I also give a friend enough money for the medium house he wanted but couldn't afford. What's the use of money in video-game, if it is not sharing with friends, making sure everyone is happy ?
=> strangely, the answer will not be interpreted as a social argument, while it is, for me. Should I say the truth, or pick an answer that mean what I want to mean even if it is not what I think it should mean ?

2) What's more important to you?
- the quality of role-playing in an online game
- the uniqueness of feature, and game mechanics
=> both. I love immersion, so I am always in for some RP, but I can't keep concentrating on something that don't give me an "intellectual challenge", I need complex and new mechanics to analyse, think about. So answer is both. If the game is lacking on either side, it don't interest me. Only solution : pick random solution, that would be at least 50% of the truth.

3) Someone has PK'ed you (killed you in player vs. player combat). Do you want to:
=> my answer is : "I DON'T GIVE A [CENSORED]. I'll just continue playing."
I don't want to try to convince him (answer 1) (that's the best way to die anew if you want my opinion) nor do I want to get in the circle of revenge (answer 2).

4) You learn that another player is planning your demise. Do you:
- go to an arena your opponent is unfamiliar with and prepare there
- attack them before he attacks you
=> answer 3 : ask my PvP-loving/pathologic PK of friend (who owes me since I helped him in farming the actual "state of art of PvP equipment") to go "convince" him that it is a bad idea. Respectable explorers shouldn't get their hands dirty when someone else would be pleased to dye their sword with that guy's virtual blood.

5) Would you rather receive as a quest reward:
- experience points
- a wand with 3 charges of a spell that let you control other players against their will
=> it depend, Can I kill the character I am controlling ? Making him jump in Lava ? Or letting him be killed by a friend ? How many XP do I get from the quest reward and how many XP can I get from controlling avatar ? Can I sell the wand ? Or exchange it ?
You need to know all the implication to take a wise decision. Anyway, XP is often easy to obtain in video-game so it will typically be the bad choice.

6) When playing a video game, is it more fun to:
- have the highest score on the list
- beat your best friend one-on-one
=>I would say answer one, because it is my last-but-one thing on my to-do-list, right before answer 2. Probably mean that the answer is irrelevant, even if I picked it.

generalmyrick

Explorer

The Bartle Test of Gamer Psychology

You are 73% Explorer

McI

Explorer

EASK

JamieAubrey

Killer

I guess I'll be killer since I only PvP

Will edit once I take the test

Told you

You are 60% Killer

What Bartle says:

♣ Killers get their kicks from imposing themselves on others. This may be "nice", ie. busybody do-gooding, but few people practice such an approach because the rewards (a warm, cosy inner glow, apparently) aren't very substantial. Much more commonly, people attack other players with a view to killing off their personae (hence the name for this style of play). The more massive the distress caused, the greater the killer's joy at having caused it. Normal points-scoring is usually required so as to become powerful enough to begin causing havoc in earnest, and exploration of a kind is necessary to discover new and ingenious ways to kill people. Even socialising is sometimes worthwhile beyond taunting a recent victim, for example in finding out someone's playing habits, or discussing tactics with fellow killers. They're all just means to an end, though; only in the knowledge that a real person, somewhere, is very upset by what you've just done, yet can themselves do nothing about it, is there any true adrenalin-shooting, juicy fun.
You are also:

60% Socialiser

47% Explorer

33% Achiever

This result may

ArchMikem

Explorer

The results are incredibly surprising considering the vocal majority who praise PvP up and down like it's the only reason ESO exists in the first place.

BadLuckCharm

You are 73% Explorer

What Bartle says:

♠ Explorers delight in having the game expose its internal machinations to them. They try progressively esoteric actions in wild, out-of-the-way places, looking for interesting features (ie. bugs) and figuring out how things work. Scoring points may be necessary to enter some next phase of exploration, but it's tedious, and anyone with half a brain can do it. Killing is quicker, and might be a constructive exercise in its own right, but it causes too much hassle in the long run if the deceased return to seek retribution. Socialising can be informative as a source of new ideas to try out, but most of what people say is irrelevant or old hat. The real fun comes only from discovery, and making the most complete set of maps in existence.

You are also:
67% Achiever

53% Socialiser

7% Killer



I hate PvP. Socializer is a bit high, but that's because the choices presented themselves that way. I have a bit of a hard time socializing for real, and in games too. Lots of social anxiety.

Cendrillion21

Explorer

Doesn't surprise me that so many of us are explorers.

Raraaku

Explorer

You are 80% Explorer

What Bartle says:

♠ Explorers delight in having the game expose its internal machinations to them. They try progressively esoteric actions in wild, out-of-the-way places, looking for interesting features (ie. bugs) and figuring out how things work. Scoring points may be necessary to enter some next phase of exploration, but it's tedious, and anyone with half a brain can do it. Killing is quicker, and might be a constructive exercise in its own right, but it causes too much hassle in the long run if the deceased return to seek retribution. Socialising can be informative as a source of new ideas to try out, but most of what people say is irrelevant or old hat. The real fun comes only from discovery, and making the most complete set of maps in existence.
You are also:

53% Socialiser

40% Killer

27% Achiever


Sounds about right.

Jusey1

Explorer

Explorer. I am not surprised. I play ESO mostly for the game's world and lore itself, than for the more MMO type of things.

ADarklore

Explorer

EAKS


73% Explorer

60% Achiever

47% Killer

20% Socialiser