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what is the most nerfed class since launch?

  • Fang_of_Lorkhaj
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    Templar
    The templar is not the same class it was at the start
  • rotaugen454
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    Whichever class I am currently playing. I think they have a switch in the code to detect when I log in. To anyone playing the same class when I log in: I'm sorry. :(

    Seriously though, even with ever increasing CP, they ALL feel weaker than they were at one point.
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  • Subversus
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    All you complaining about nightblades have no idea what you are talking about. Nightblades in 2017 are MILES ahead anything before. Magblade is arguably weaker, depending what you are playing, but stamblade is in a GODLY spot. This comes from a nightblade main (mag mostly, stam when I wanna feel like an OP ***).

    The funny truth is that sorcs were actually the ones who got the most nerfs, yet they're still stupid op. Magdks maybe, but they're also crazy op (in duels) atm so idk.
  • NyassaV
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    Nightblade
    The horrible nerf to Surge by giving it a cooldown crippled Sorcs' ability to heal while fighting. The entire shield stacking meta that everyone hates can be traced back to this nerf. The nerf to Bolt Escape was just as bad, if not worse. The EXPONENTIALLY increasing cost of Bolt Escape is considered by many to be the worst nerf in the history of MMOs.

    As if they aren't powerful enough now
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  • ak_pvp
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    DK and temp.

    Temp more slowly and steadily nerfed with little buffs, DK with buffs and nerfs out the arse.
    MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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  • Betheny
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    Sorcerer
    You can easily see it's sorcerer...there's so few votes for it here because there's hardly anyone left playing it now it got nerfed so bad :3
  • AlMcFly
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    DK deserved it. I remember the dark days of Cyrodiil after launch when Vamp Tank DKs would wipe 40+ players while spamming endless Bat Swarms. It was so stupidly imbalanced.
  • Osteos
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    Dragonknight
    LOL at people who put sorc :D
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  • OdinForge
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    Dragonknight
    Betheny wrote: »
    You can easily see it's sorcerer...there's so few votes for it here because there's hardly anyone left playing it now it got nerfed so bad :3

    Wahh they made my shields last only 6 seconds, not like I wasn't already spam casting them under load before anyway.
    The Age of Wrobel.
  • Betheny
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    Sorcerer
    OdinForge wrote: »
    Betheny wrote: »
    You can easily see it's sorcerer...there's so few votes for it here because there's hardly anyone left playing it now it got nerfed so bad :3

    Wahh they made my shields last only 6 seconds, not like I wasn't already spam casting them under load before anyway.

    See you're talking about PVP...the nerfs also affected PVE and it's all your fault.
  • Betheny
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    Sorcerer
    I blame YOU OdinForge.
  • Nyghthowler
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    Don't have an opinion because over the life span of the game every class has been boosted on high, then shot down into the sewer.
    I'm not prejudiced; I hate everyone equally !
  • Malic
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    Dragonknight
    Betheny wrote: »
    I blame YOU OdinForge.

    Ya im on board for this, I mean I WEEP for sorcs in PVE its SO HARD FOR THEM.
  • Anne_Firehawk
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    Dragonknight
    AlMcFly wrote: »
    DK deserved it. I remember the dark days of Cyrodiil after launch when Vamp Tank DKs would wipe 40+ players while spamming endless Bat Swarms. It was so stupidly imbalanced.

    Sounds like a L2P Issue :D
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  • DeHei
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    Templar
    Betheny wrote: »
    OdinForge wrote: »
    Betheny wrote: »
    You can easily see it's sorcerer...there's so few votes for it here because there's hardly anyone left playing it now it got nerfed so bad :3

    Wahh they made my shields last only 6 seconds, not like I wasn't already spam casting them under load before anyway.

    See you're talking about PVP...the nerfs also affected PVE and it's all your fault.

    Oh 1 change.. WTF in comparison to the 10 changes for templar and 10 to DKs???

    1 change is really much harder then everything else what other classes needed to handle!

    ... I feel sad about the ignorance of some people!
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  • Baconlad
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    Templar
    Deffinetly templar.

    I could show you every skill and almost every morph that has been nerfed for templar. Passive nerfs.

    Sure weve gotten a new shiny skill (radiant oppression) but lost a skill (blinding flashes) that should have been a different skill (ritual....) in which that new skill was also nerfed...twice alteast (tic frequency and damage in seperate nerfs for RO). Weve had a skill nerfed recently twice in two patches that wasnt even OP, and required a VERY scecialized gear and build (blazing shield) had skills changed to stamina when they didnt need it (crescent sweep). Had other skills lose their CC (shards) without giving it somwhere else, and also nerfed to make other classes feel better about healing. Repentence got nerfed twice this past year. Massive ONGOING healing nerfs to a whole line that really only effected the main heal (bol) since first year of release through passive changes, major/ minor system, the losing of max target for the skill. *edit* not to mention directional changes to BOL recently as well!!

    *DEEP BREATH*

    puncturing sweeps was nerfed by damage done and healing recieved (since its damage done ties into healing its healing was double nerfed). Burning light was nerfed in damage and proc cooldown. Nova was nerfed in effects, still useless for DPS magplars. Spear ulti was utterly nerfed to be half damage into a DOT (!?!?!?!?) WHEN ALL THEY NEED TO DO WAS INCREASE THE RANGE....then after that nerf...relized they didnt fix it but made it worse, and gave 1 meter range to it....javelin was arguably nerfed when they gave the stronger CC to stamina, then again when they increased the knockback to dissable sweeps while using it. Nerfed the magic return on channeled focus AND honor the dead.

    Is that acceptable? Ok ready do that for sorc...wait you cant...do that for nightblade, nightblade was **bad** for a long time. Then they fixed it, now its a VERY strong pvp class. Build in a bit of mag regen and you can cloak and dodge roll for *** days while having insane DPS. Do that for DK...ok well you might be able to do that for DK...but maybe not as close. All major DK (over) nerfs came within a year and have slowly been getting better over two years. Sorc has ruled since day ONE...due to the strength of shields with magic and damage.

    This is also trying not to remain an only magic perspective as at early game the only thing stamina players had were magic defensive skills from classes and their passives. At launch all damage for stam toons came from weapons...which was why stamina was weak as crap for SO long in general amongst all classes...ill never forget trying to Bowplar my way to victory my forst day in craglorn....

    **wait they did fix purifying light...credit where its due right?**
    Edited by Baconlad on September 15, 2017 9:05PM
  • Betheny
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    Sorcerer
    DeHei wrote: »

    Oh 1 change..

    ... I feel sad about the ignorance of some people![/quote]

    Ironic, because it's way more than "1 change" as you think. Get educated.
  • Autumnhart
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    Templar
    Wrecked
    Shadow hide you.
  • Xsorus
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    Blinding Flashes was overpowered as hell back in the day; now it'd be absolutely silly.

  • Baconlad
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    Templar
    It was OP...but how many people would rather that than healing ritual? Me think alot, and im sure they could fix the skill into being more aligned to current expectations instead of thebold school OP jump into a raid and shut it down with one spammable skill.
  • Inarre
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    Templar
    I really wanted to say dk, but stamina dk dps is super strong, along with dk tank. Dk heals and mag dk need massive help though.

    Templar has been nerfed super hard since launch. Some (not all) of that was warranted.
    Edited by Inarre on September 15, 2017 11:32PM
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Magicka warden. No class has ever been this weak. And they didn't even need to nerf them. They launched them in this state.
  • Cernow
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    Templar
    Since launch? Easily the Templar, the class has been gutted from what it was at launch. Thankfully they've left Templars relatively alone in the last few patches and turned their nerfbat on DK and NB. But for repeated nerfs since launch, the Templar is easily the 'winner'.
  • Tavore1138
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    I would say NB but they started off horribly weak, got pretty damn strong and then gt weaker again. DKs were very very strong at the start, crazy strong - they sure took some heavy nerfs, necessary ones but probably more than anyone else.
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    Biggest nerfs have been to the most overpowered builds. :)

    Magicka DK has already been mentioned at length.

    Another was Critical Surge sorcerer. At least in PvE, you could stand in a group of enemies, AoE them down, and rarely have your health fall significantly below 100%, all while using only two skills -- Impulse (either morph) and Critical Surge -- and zero abilities such as block or dodge.
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on September 16, 2017 12:09AM
  • Serjustin19
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    If I could vote for my friend, whom got so mad about the nerfs from One Tameril. Then quit game, who just started playing again 2 days ago. I would've picked Magicka Templar for her, she was so OP before One Tameril.

    If I could've vote for another friend, whom left to same situation above. Whom recently got back last week. I would've picked Magicka Dk.

    If I could vote for myself, I wouldn't even know what to pick. Honestly I will pick 3. Nightblades, Dragon Knights and Templar.
    But If I could pick only 1, of the 3. I just can't at this moment.
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  • Reverb
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    Dragonknight
    The 2017 DK is a whimper in comparison to the DK of spring 2014. And appropriately so, since early DK was faceroll, godlike strong.

    The last 2 years, Templar has suffered the most progressive nerfs, nearly gutting the spirit of the class from what is was at launch.

    NB was so very bad at launch that I can't consider the current NB in any way nerfed compared to that time.

    Sorcs seemed to have benefited most from power creep over the years, and had corresponding nerfs. While the BE nerf was ridiculous, sorc is still in a stronger place than it was in late 2015. Stam sorc is actually viable now, and no nerfs to mag sorc since launch have made it less well-rounded.
    Edited by Reverb on September 16, 2017 2:28PM
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  • tplink3r1
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    Either Templar or DK.
    NBs and Sorcs were really bad when the game released, specially NBs.
    Edited by tplink3r1 on September 16, 2017 3:33PM
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  • KeiruNicrom
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    Nightblade
    NB has suffered the harshest nerfs. Right from the get go our Cloak started being nerfed do to people complaining. These days cloak is a sketchy skill at best, such should not be when said skill is what represents the whole class.

    DK is a close second due to the resource nerfing in morrowind. Since release DKs keep going up and down with nerfs and buffs. They started as the strongest, they were the first decent stamina class, and although they have been nerfed quite a bit they have recovered to a decent place, unlike NB whose only use for the past few updates have been ganking in pvp
  • chaserstorm16909
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    Nightblade
    This poll needs to be more specific. If it was, magblade would top the charts easily.
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