Healing is not working

Seleval

So, since the last patch I, and mutliple other Healers I have asked, have noticed that the skills "Healing Springs" and "Breath of Life" are not working properly.
Sometimes they dont work at all. At all.
Which is very bad in Veteran Trials.
I also noticed today that "Combat Prayer" is also glitching out.

Recently I also was healing at a Dolmen and NO ONE got healed except me. People were dying in front of me, even though I spammed BoL.
That can´t and should not happen.

It´s been like this since the Horns of the Reach patch, and it´s getting worse every day now.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

PC/EU

FakeFox

I never had this issue and don't know of any other healer having it.

MercTheMage

Ive had this problem before, its not the skills, its any healing. I love tossing out energy orbs at dolmens while wearing spc and troll king, and sometimes people just dont get healed. its like youre in pvp and theyre enemy players.

Seleval

@MercTheMage
Exactly!
I´ve noticed it mostly with those skills I mentioned, and it´s just annoying because you see them dropping low on health and you cant do anything

idk

FakeFox wrote: »

I never had this issue and don't know of any other healer having it.

and if healing springs was not working no one could clear vHoF HM, and they have been clearing it.

Seleval

@Giles.floydub17_ESO
It´s not like it´s not working the whole time
Sometimes the time of not working ranges from 5 to 30 seconds.

(And it is not the lag, since I can switch weapons and use destro-staff skills for example. I switch back to resto staff and even then Healing Springs isn´t activating. I usually end up pressing random keys and then it might work again.)

I also had it happening that my breath of life only healed me, and no one else in a trial for about 20 seconds.

Like I said, those skills aren´t working properly as they are supposed to be.
For some people it´s happening, for some it´s not.

If the skills wouldnt work at all I couldnt have done vTrials in general, but I did, since it´s glitching out and not not-working at all times.

MercTheMage

This has happened to me for a long time tho, not just since hotr, like since one tamriel.
Its extremely rare, i can only recall one or two instances of it happening.

MercTheMage

And before giles puts on his tinfoil hat, no ones saying "HEALING IS BROKEN 24/7 OMG THIS GAME SUX WOW4LIFE"
We said "sometimes"

MinarasLaure

can confirm
Happened today while running vault of madness.
I thought it was lag but all the offensive skills were fine

Mystrius_Archaion

This almost sounds to me like, for BoL anyway, it is the smart healing code that causes it to target the lowest health player of the potential targets. This could be intentional and they just have higher health than you, or a bug with that code.
This would require testing.

Seleval

Since hotr I started to notice it quite frequently @MercTheMage (could have happened before aswell,but i guess i blamed the lag)
But since the patch it´s been happening quite often

@MinarasLaure Yeah, for me it rarely happens in dungeons, more often in trials, but it´s annoying none the less


@Mystrius_Archaion
Yeah, BoL works that way, but what happened was that noone got healed at all, even not the ones at 1% health (and i stood directly behind them)
if I understood you correctly that is

Seleval

And again. Yesterday in White Gold Tower.
I specifically asked other people if they could see me using Healing Springs and they said they don´t see the animation.

It even showed up on my buffs, the healing springs but it didnt heal anyone
not even me
i was spamming it for a solid minute, nothing happened.

i had to bar swap twice to get it back working.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

TimeWizard

This has been happening to me a lot lately. The first time I noticed it was in vHoF HM, where I was healing during terminal fase and only 4 out of the six people got healed. Me and one dps dropped dead for the exact damge our health was while everyone else was being continuisly healed. (Until I died of course). We eventually cleared the thing after several hours of the same bug happening to different people. Since then every trial or too I will die to things that regulary survive simply because Im not getting my own heals. I do score pushing runs sometimes, and it is really fustrating to ruin a perfect run because the healers simply cannot heal themselfs and end up dying and wiping the group. It i not just me. Most of the healers I play with run into the same issue. It isn't constant, but is rather regular.

A clip of a friend of mine dying in his own heals because they didn't work on him
https://clips.twitch.tv/ObeseDarkSwallowKlappa

altemriel

Seleval wrote: »

So, since the last patch I, and mutliple other Healers I have asked, have noticed that the skills "Healing Springs" and "Breath of Life" are not working properly.
Sometimes they dont work at all. At all.
Which is very bad in Veteran Trials.
I also noticed today that "Combat Prayer" is also glitching out.

Recently I also was healing at a Dolmen and NO ONE got healed except me. People were dying in front of me, even though I spammed BoL.
That can´t and should not happen.

It´s been like this since the Horns of the Reach patch, and it´s getting worse every day now.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

PC/EU

LOL ZOS, why are you again introducing new bugs with every patch, WTH???

Destruent

did you test, if it only happens to players in other alliances or to players in your alliance aswell? I can remember there was a similar bug with ele-drain some time ago...i can imagine this happens to healing now...
you may also test ele-drain aswell with this in mind...

UppGRAYxDD

Noticed this ever since they nerfed Templar healing...all jokes aside this is an issue. Sometimes the healing is delayed or doesn't hit at all...

VaranisArano

Now that I think about it, I have noticed this in group dungeons. For a short bit of time, one of my abilities won't work, but another healing skill will. It's not like I have a skill that didn't fire, since I'll clear the skills (like sometimes you get stuck with the circle for healing springs) and it still won't work.

I noticed it on healing springs and combat prayer, I don't think I saw it on any of my warden healing spells, and it always fixed itself after a bit of time.

Seleval

Destruent wrote: »

did you test, if it only happens to players in other alliances or to players in your alliance aswell? I can remember there was a similar bug with ele-drain some time ago...i can imagine this happens to healing now...
you may also test ele-drain aswell with this in mind...

It happens in PVE

or do you mean it happens when i, a dc character, tries to heal, lets say an ep character, and the game thinks "THAT CANT WORK!!!!"

it started again, today,
mol, first boss, healing springs just didnt work. it didnt even get placed on the ground even though i was spamming it

I also seem to see that Combat Prayer isnt lasting the time it should last.

need to bar swap to make it work again, and even that today didnt work. Had to swap and light attack multiple times

Destruent

Seleval wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

did you test, if it only happens to players in other alliances or to players in your alliance aswell? I can remember there was a similar bug with ele-drain some time ago...i can imagine this happens to healing now...
you may also test ele-drain aswell with this in mind...

It happens in PVE

or do you mean it happens when i, a dc character, tries to heal, lets say an ep character, and the game thinks "THAT CANT WORK!!!!"

it started again, today,
mol, first boss, healing springs just didnt work. it didnt even get placed on the ground even though i was spamming it

I also seem to see that Combat Prayer isnt lasting the time it should last.

need to bar swap to make it work again, and even that today didnt work. Had to swap and light attack multiple times

yep, exactly this.

xRIVALENx

It is not healing but may be related in some way. This weekend when running my Stam DK through normal Asylum Sanctorum one of the bosses was not registering damage from any of my DK class skills. Weapon, Alliance and Fighters Guild skills did register however.

Seleval

I hope they will look into this
at some point
eventually

@ZOS_GinaBruno and the others

it should not be that i cannot heal my team with, well, my healing abilites.
And its been happening again.

saw it at dolmen, wgt, vAA, nAA, nmol, etc
so its not tied to a location


@Destruent damnit zos, trials arent pvp :B

ZOS_GinaBruno

We're having trouble getting this to happen on our end. Could someone perhaps attach a video showing what you see?

NewBlacksmurf

MercTheMage wrote: »

This has happened to me for a long time tho, not just since hotr, like since one tamriel.
Its extremely rare, i can only recall one or two instances of it happening.

I was going to comment and thought not to as it was a while back but reading this I will.
Specifically on Xbox One NA doing dungeons I've had this experience and sadly one of our fellow hero died. This has occurred even prior to Morrowind release up to recent.

Now I play Templar with a healing staff on the back bar so its not limited to Templar healing.
In terms on video evidence, I don't have any either but what I will say is this.

It was assumed to be related to the issues that still cause players to not appear. Some of us do a force quit and log back in and it resolves the appearance issue but this does relate to some of the healing issues @ZOS_GinaBruno

I know a prior update was believed to resolve the issue however on occasions we still have the issue which seems to be a simple phasing issue because we do see their arrow on the screen and the map but not the character.

Whatever causes that would be where I start to look at this bug. Its not always a faction based issue.

Elsterchen

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

This almost sounds to me like, for BoL anyway, it is the smart healing code that causes it to target the lowest health player of the potential targets. This could be intentional and they just have higher health than you, or a bug with that code.
This would require testing.

Hmm, just jumping in with another wild guess (since PVP was mentioned already). I do know that healing-group members-only-limitation in PVP did glitch out at times (so did the rapid maneuver-only-affects-groupmembers-limitation). Can neither confirm nor rule out this glitch occuring after last patch, it was occuring only on rare occasions before (... something in the magnitude of perfect roe dropping)

Maybe the opposite happens now? Instead of including non-members to the group, now members are excluded from group... some mix-up during verification of target?

Moloch1514

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We're having trouble getting this to happen on our end. Could someone perhaps attach a video showing what you see?

@ZOS_GinaBruno I think post #13 included a video link. I notice this especially in Dolmens right now. Not frequent but more than once.

Mapurr

I have had issues with healing springs over the last few patches - I think it could be what you are describing here?

It's not that the skill isn't healing, it's just not going off to begin with. I am not able to replicate it consistently but it mostly occurs when you spam the skill, or barswap cancel something too quickly. The only consistent way I have found to fix this is by toggling the crown store (double-tapping the comma key). If I had to take a guess, it probably has something to do with skill queuing.

Sometimes the indicator ring for healing springs will glitch out and stay visible if you barswap while it was about to fire, and sometimes the ring for it will not even appear and you won't be able to cast it at all.

All that being said though, I have not experienced my skills not healing when I activate them. Just sometimes they get "stuck".

code65536

Could be an issue with lag from server load, since people are describing this happening at dolmens.

When tanking vHoF boss 4, I would sometimes notice that no matter how many times I cast my GDB self-heal, my health bar would stay low and not move at all. This only happens during the "pull-in" phases, where there is a lot more going on. And usually about 10 seconds or so after I've left the "pull-in" and things calmed down, I'd see my health suddenly shoot up.

I believe that these are just cases of things being desynced due the game not being able to keep up during load.

Yngol

Mapurr wrote: »

I have had issues with healing springs over the last few patches - I think it could be what you are describing here?

It's not that the skill isn't healing, it's just not going off to begin with. I am not able to replicate it consistently but it mostly occurs when you spam the skill, or barswap cancel something too quickly. The only consistent way I have found to fix this is by toggling the crown store (double-tapping the comma key). If I had to take a guess, it probably has something to do with skill queuing.

Sometimes the indicator ring for healing springs will glitch out and stay visible if you barswap while it was about to fire, and sometimes the ring for it will not even appear and you won't be able to cast it at all.

All that being said though, I have not experienced my skills not healing when I activate them. Just sometimes they get "stuck".

I think it must be a l2p issue, for you specifically for everyone else, I totally believe the bug to be real

Seleval

@ZOS_GinaBruno
When it happens next time, I will try to take a video.

And thanks for your answer c:

WuffyCerulei

Yngol wrote: »

Mapurr wrote: »

I have had issues with healing springs over the last few patches - I think it could be what you are describing here?

It's not that the skill isn't healing, it's just not going off to begin with. I am not able to replicate it consistently but it mostly occurs when you spam the skill, or barswap cancel something too quickly. The only consistent way I have found to fix this is by toggling the crown store (double-tapping the comma key). If I had to take a guess, it probably has something to do with skill queuing.

Sometimes the indicator ring for healing springs will glitch out and stay visible if you barswap while it was about to fire, and sometimes the ring for it will not even appear and you won't be able to cast it at all.

All that being said though, I have not experienced my skills not healing when I activate them. Just sometimes they get "stuck".

I think it must be a l2p issue, for you specifically for everyone else, I totally believe the bug to be real

Boi do you know who you're talking to. Don't go [snip] on probs the best healer on the NA PC server.

[Edited to remove profanity]

Seleval

VaranisArano wrote: »

Now that I think about it, I have noticed this in group dungeons. For a short bit of time, one of my abilities won't work, but another healing skill will. It's not like I have a skill that didn't fire, since I'll clear the skills (like sometimes you get stuck with the circle for healing springs) and it still won't work.

I noticed it on healing springs and combat prayer, I don't think I saw it on any of my warden healing spells, and it always fixed itself after a bit of time.

Yeah ive seen the circle-thing too
But thats happening only sometimes.
Mostly my shards dont go off and when i press them again, i throw two shardd

For my problem with healing springs: the circle isnt even there.
But i see the skill activated on my skillbar
No circle. No heals. Nothing.