I feel bad...Imp City Death Squads

Integral1900

As a pve type I would love to go and see the imperial city, walk it's streets, do a few quests... I can't, and I accept that. Like many former customer service staff I have been diagnosed with profound social anxiety. In pve it's not an issue, in all the time I've played only those *** mudball throwers have ever really irritated me. You see, anxiety is a very primal thing, yet despite it being sited in the most primitive part of the brain, a part that for example cannot understand something as simple as a spear or bow and arrow, it seems quite able to tell the diffrence between machines and humans.

I dabbled briefly in pvp but the old anxiety goblin went nuclear. It's okay for some mindless half wit to say"oh just get over it" but that's like saying go beat up that 800 pound gorilla. A lot of us pve types simply can't go to pvp land because in my case we would quite litteraly be risking our sanity, and trust me, when a doctor with thirty years of experience and a decade and a half of training says that you dam well listen. I would have been happy to pay cash for a pve only version, strip out all the telvarstones and loot to keep the pvp lot happy if need be, I just want to experience the zone.

My point really is that while it's fun for the elite to massacre noobs, those same elite seem to forget that in doing so they are slowly choking the life blood of the game, that being new players. Unless this changes, or ZOS performs the miracle of actually balancing pvp, then it's slow withering is inevitable. When i play the zones are full of players, the cities hum with life, I've never seen it so busy, it's wonderful. Everyone I know who does pvp however sings a diffrent tune, they speak of empty miles and deserted towns, three of them are former emperors who refuse to go back to pvp citing the endless toxicity of it, one tried battlegrounds but wrote it of as a bad joke... it may be time to look to place the blame not just at ZOS and it's mistakes but at the elitist minority itself

NightbladeMechanics

Integral1900 wrote: »

As a pve type I would love to go and see the imperial city, walk it's streets, do a few quests... I can't, and I accept that. Like many former customer service staff I have been diagnosed with profound social anxiety. In pve it's not an issue, in all the time I've played only those *** mudball throwers have ever really irritated me. You see, anxiety is a very primal thing, yet despite it being sited in the most primitive part of the brain, a part that for example cannot understand something as simple as a spear or bow and arrow, it seems quite able to tell the diffrence between machines and humans.

I dabbled briefly in pvp but the old anxiety goblin went nuclear. It's okay for some mindless half wit to say"oh just get over it" but that's like saying go beat up that 800 pound gorilla. A lot of us pve types simply can't go to pvp land because in my case we would quite litteraly be risking our sanity, and trust me, when a doctor with thirty years of experience and a decade and a half of training says that you dam well listen. I would have been happy to pay cash for a pve only version, strip out all the telvarstones and loot to keep the pvp lot happy if need be, I just want to experience the zone.

My point really is that while it's fun for the elite to massacre noobs, those same elite seem to forget that in doing so they are slowly choking the life blood of the game, that being new players. Unless this changes, or ZOS performs the miracle of actually balancing pvp, then it's slow withering is inevitable. When i play the zones are full of players, the cities hum with life, I've never seen it so busy, it's wonderful. Everyone I know who does pvp however sings a diffrent tune, they speak of empty miles and deserted towns, three of them are former emperors who refuse to go back to pvp citing the endless toxicity of it, one tried battlegrounds but wrote it of as a bad joke... it may be time to look to place the blame not just at ZOS and it's mistakes but at the elitist minority itself

I am sorry for your daily struggle, and I do understand it all too well myself (long story there), but I feel I must respond to some of your points.

First, do you think perhaps your personal experience and struggle may be less common than "a lot of pve types simply can't go into pvp land without risking their sanity?" That seems a little excessive..

Second, I think this community in general has an unfortunate attitude toward elite players. "Elitism" is a poor attitude as well, so please distinguish that from my point. I don't support derogatory behavior from good players. That said, why is fighting and dying to an excellent player considered a bad thing, or why is the presence and success of elite players considered a negative influence on the game? When a group of elite players wins a fight against a bunch of less experienced players, why are they "choking the life blood of the game?" Why should those newer players be discouraged and less likely to keep playing? Why not be encouraged and excited to keep playing and improving in order to one day have your own skillful and epic fights like the more experienced players? Should a young musician attending a concert at a music hall not be inspired to go home, practice, and strive to reach the level of the performers? People die in video games. You could die to another zerg of equal size and dearth of skill, or you could die to fewer people who outplayed you, and find an opportunity to learn something and improve at the game.

Third, while the PvP community is certainly dwindling, it's not all toxic. Yes, this game's PvP community has a particularly nasty, salty, grudging, toxic underbelly, but that's internet trolls for you. Ignoring them and occasionally putting them in their place does a nice job of keeping them out of your general day to day play. The majority of the PvP community is full of mature, friendly, and generally delightful people who all get along well and don't let ego wedge between them.

I'm not sure what elitist minority you perceive, but as a PvPer who started as a noob (as we all do), got massacred as you described, was inspired, worked hard to climb, and now looks back on years playing the game, I am saddened when players share sentiments like yours. That is honestly the opposite kind of attitude that a healthy, growing, thriving game would have, which makes me worry for the future of ESO PvP.

generalmyrick

Integral1900 wrote: »

My point really is that while it's fun for the elite to massacre noobs, those same elite seem to forget that in doing so they are slowly choking the life blood of the game, that being new players. Unless this changes, or ZOS performs the miracle of actually balancing pvp, then it's slow withering is inevitable. When i play the zones are full of players, the cities hum with life, I've never seen it so busy, it's wonderful. Everyone I know who does pvp however sings a diffrent tune, they speak of empty miles and deserted towns, three of them are former emperors who refuse to go back to pvp citing the endless toxicity of it, one tried battlegrounds but wrote it of as a bad joke... it may be time to look to place the blame not just at ZOS and it's mistakes but at the elitist minority itself

Oh lord...you've woken them... :-)

I agree with you and am sure you understand the difficulty it takes for someone to sacrifice for the good of the community?

Today I plan to spend part of my time with my bow sniping bombers and bullies from a highpoint.

biminirwb17_ESO

Many people have different challenges playing this game, mine are physical (transverse myelitis) and deafness, this makes group play difficult. I feel like a liability because voice comms is all important, plus I cant type quickly.

But I have solo'ed all the overland zones and public dungeons, killed Grand Overlords, got in the top 10 pvp list on 30 day campaigns. Completed the IC PVE. and have over 1000 cp.

I have done one trial (carried by guild) and no dungeons.

There is plenty of variation in the game, some of us cant do it all. But playing with a 11 button mouse with one hand and no keyboard still allows me to kill noobs and elites alike.

I just do what I can, and don't do what I cant.