What is the pickpocketing etiquette?

SFDB

I usually see two groups of people running around Vvardenfell looking for the elusive motifs, with a contrasting approach. Which do you feel is the way players ought to act?

Group 1 adheres to the pick-pick-stab technique, minimizing the chance of getting caught while getting to the third loot item. These people steer clear of others who are already picking an NPCs pocket.

Group 2 is the pick-pick-pick group. They will pickpocket an NPC that is already being pickpocketed and will not stab (and will complain if the other player stabs).

Morgul667

Pick-pick-stab

pick pick stab

SydneyGrey

Blade-of-Woeing someone that another player is pickpocketing is just crappy, and akin to leaving a single lockpick in a treasure chest.

sevomd69

Pick-pick-pick

If we are sharing a mark... i will not BoW him/her... I pick him once and wait for the inevitable BoW from the other guy and when he kills the mark you get the other 2 items on the corpse...

Betheny

Stab on the first try, I just like ruining people's day

No surprises here.

Kahina

Pick-pick-pick

In my experience, it's the impatient stabs that come in over top of my character (thief, not a murderer) and stab the mark.

zaria

Stab on the first try, I just like ruining people's day

If you are alone in area you can pick pick stab, if its others they have to wait for respawn.
An natural response from the others jump ahead of you and stab stab.

In increase in bounty for killing will help

Runschei

Pick-pick-stab

Pick pick stick

firedrgn

Well I pick pick stab untill I read some ha e a 4th item. So I pick pick pick stab now. The impatient peeps don't,last very long because they are impatient.

I stab so the npc will respawn .

Zimbugga

Stab on the first try, I just like ruining people's day

I like use Blade of Woe... My character has 100% change to pickpocket and I still fail (eye is close too).

Recremen

Honestly I'm not sure. I've heard that pick-pick-stab makes their inventory spawn faster, but who knows. I just wish there wasn't so much dependence on stealing, like how it's the only way to get the new motifs. Q_Q I have to exit roleplay mode and do things my character wouldn't all so I can learn new motifs. It's dreadful. Though the systems itself is well-designed and enjoyable.

sdtlc

Pick-pick-stab

If you're two on one victim, let one pick and then the other will pick pick stab, the first one will be able to loot two items, so both get their three items

Pele

Pick-pick-pick

Pick x3 because I understand there are actual real life human beings behind the playable characters around me, so I'll treat them with the same common decency I treat people with IRL because I don't have mental health issues.

ETA: I don't care if someone stabs NPCs.

altemriel

SFDB wrote: »

I usually see two groups of people running around Vvardenfell looking for the elusive motifs, with a contrasting approach. Which do you feel is the way players ought to act?

Group 1 adheres to the pick-pick-stab technique, minimizing the chance of getting caught while getting to the third loot item. These people steer clear of others who are already picking an NPCs pocket.

Group 2 is the pick-pick-pick group. They will pickpocket an NPC that is already being pickpocketed and will not stab (and will complain if the other player stabs).

there is no etiquete, you do it as you feel

Feanor

Pick-pick-stab

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Blade-of-Woeing someone that another player is pickpocketing is just crappy, and akin to leaving a single lockpick in a treasure chest.

Full ack. But there are a lot of people out there apparently that get joy out of ruining experiences for others. It's why the group finder is such a cess pool too in part.

Czeri

Pick-pick-stab

If you only pick, you leave the NPC with empty pockets for other players. If you kill them, they respawn with full inventory in a couple of minutes.

Turelus

Recremen wrote: »

Honestly I'm not sure. I've heard that pick-pick-stab makes their inventory spawn faster, but who knows. I just wish there wasn't so much dependence on stealing, like how it's the only way to get the new motifs. Q_Q I have to exit roleplay mode and do things my character wouldn't all so I can learn new motifs. It's dreadful. Though the systems itself is well-designed and enjoyable.

Roll another character who is a "contact" of your first, you never ask how they get the wares you want but they always do.

RaddlemanNumber7

Etiquette is how the man keeps us in line

Stick it to the man.

Runs

I try to let players get one pick before I kill. When that happens the npc will have 2 items(or more if they had style items) on their dead body for players that got 1 pick in, or 1 for players that got 2 picks in.

However there are times this isn't feasible... 3 or more other players with one of them getting agro can increase the time spent on the NPC considerably. If this happens I will just pick pick kill with no regards for the other players and then move on to a different area as that one is no longer worth the time.

Minyassa

Pick-pick-pick

Honestly I think expecting any sort of etiquette in this game is kind of like expecting hogs to have table manners. I rarely run into anyone who cares about how what they do affects others.

SantieClaws

If you have to ask the questions then perhaps you are not of enough importance to have obtained and read the charters of the Thieves Guild yes? Or perhaps you should read them more carefully.

You do not steal from another pocket technician - the preferred term in our line of business - that includes any hapless pocket walkers they have their eyes on already.

You do not get in the way of, or impede, another pocket technician in their work - killing when another has their eye on the prize is included in this.

You do not do anything that would alert the guards to the work of another pocket technician.

You do not summon your fence in the face of another pocket technician.

Honour among pocket technicians is most important. Respect your fellow professionals as you go about your work and we will all prosper as a result.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

magicsprout

Mostly pick pick stab but wait till anyone with me gets a go. Some feral idiots running round right now just killing a mark if they see perceived competition. Or in the case of the numpty with the great sword couple days ago just bashing down marks every rime i was in position some annoying little trolls

Magdalina

It's kind of funny to talk about ethics of stealing and murdering if you look at it from npcs point of view "Is it better to steal 3 times or to steal 2 times then kill and steal from the dead body?"

(I know this is the only way to farm new motifs, I'm just saying there's a certain irony in that)

Niobium

Pick-pick-pick

Pick Pick Pick ..if no one is around I'll stab at the end to get the NPC to respawn with full pockets for me. I tend to go for out of the way NPC's in the wilderness rather than those in town because there are too many petty little people who enjoy stabbing for the sake of being.. well, petty little people.

TheRealPotoroo

Pick-pick-stab

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Blade-of-Woeing someone that another player is pickpocketing is just crappy, and akin to leaving a single lockpick in a treasure chest.

Unless the other player is interfering with your mark. Then it's game on.

swippy

Pick-pick-stab

Pele wrote: »

Pick x3 because I understand there are actual real life human beings behind the playable characters around me, so I'll treat them with the same common decency I treat people with IRL because I don't have mental health issues.

ETA: I don't care if someone stabs NPCs.

i don't understand so much of this post. i truly mean well, so i know it's way more courteous to pick-pick-stick an NPC and hasten the respawn with inventory, because the alternative is making fellow players stalk an empty vessel, and then kill it just to wait for 5 more minutes. it seems like me doing that would be unnecessarily inconveniencing myself with the effect of further inconveniencing other players and that would make me think i was not above mental health issues.
maybe there was a joke that went over my head?

and what does "ETA" mean in this context? not the Estimated Time of Arrival usual on this forum, right?
i am missing something

kargen27

I have a few loops I run when picking pockets. If I encounter another player anywhere in my loop I follow for a bit and if it looks like they are going to be grabbing from more than one NPC in my loop I move on to something else.

Others helping themselves to loot around me not only takes away from the items I can steal, they often get caught and guards end up facing a different direction than what I normally encounter. That can really mess things up, so better to just leave for a while.

LMar

Remember, if you group you all share the loot. So if you are in the same farming loop, then just group up and everyone benefits. No need to run and scramble over one another.

Deheart

Pick-pick-pick

Honestly, I tend to never even consider killing when pick pocketing. Usually it is harder to kill a "friendly" npc without getting bounties for me than it is to pick pocket them.

Johngo0036

Pick-pick-stab

and leave the person who is doing it alone.

Patrus

Pick-pick-stab

LMar wrote: »

Remember, if you group you all share the loot. So if you are in the same farming loop, then just group up and everyone benefits. No need to run and scramble over one another.

You don't need to be in group. If you allready have picked the npc one time and then another Player stabs, you have the loot too.