Infallable Aether Buff, Intended?

rhapsodious

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

Rip IA meta August 2017 - August 2017

Any idea what the value will go back to? Same as the current 2pc crit bonus?

skinnycheeks

NOOOO! Was so excited that a trial drop was going to be BIS

kojou

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

Anne_Firehawk

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

A "Willows Path"-Future patch or an "XP Grindspot"-Future patch?

ZOS_GinaBruno

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

A "Willows Path"-Future patch or a "XP Grindspot"-Future patch?

Closer to an XP grind spot future

Anne_Firehawk

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

A "Willows Path"-Future patch or a "XP Grindspot"-Future patch?

Closer to an XP grind spot future

That's great!

ccfeeling

IA farming is not easy even in normal trial , this set nerfed twice in the past

dpencil1

@ZOS_GinaBruno Please, please, get the devs to at least discuss the Minor Vulnerability aspect of the IA 5th piece bonus. If they are dead set on keeping it, maybe you could relay or have them comment on why they think it is still a valid buff. Even if someone was using a non-lightning staff version of the set, bosses will get Minor Vulnerability from other players in one's group. Are we supposed to believe that it's really intended for some solo player using it on a resto staff or something? It needs a rework. Please don't let this moment when the set is in the spotlight go by without addressing this issue.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert

PS4_ZeColmeia

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

@ZOS_GinaBruno I really hope the team could evaluate the set in general. With the change to concussion from lightning staff, this trial set became beyond the lack luster it already was.

I think if you made it so it increased the chance to inflict concussion/off balance by 200% or granted major berserk against concussed enemies, that this would become a valuable set.

aToken

Beardimus wrote: »

I'd prefer it not to be true. The news that overland & crafted was going to be strong was mega. Being forced to run trials to get crazy OP gear is wrong as. Crafting needs a pimp

Craft set r supposed to bridge players into end game content till they complete their trials sets. But zos doesn't know the difference from endgame and beginner. So it's up in the air every patch wtf is bis. They nerf gear we farm till craft sets r better. Make new drop sets them nerf later on rinse repeat rip life

battlefeel

The bonus for having 5 pieces is approximately 2.31x the value of a one-piece bonus

Weapon Critical or Spell Critical rating has been increased by 21%

(values are legendary)
833 x 2.31 = 1924.23

I don't understand why people are complaining this is in line with patch notes its literally simple math

EDIT: The exact same formula applies to Mother's Sorrow and the Leviathan set, so again, why are people asking for the nerfhammer ?
EDIT 2: Vicious Ophidian should also have the same buff, giving it 297.99 (298) weapon damage on the 5th piece bonus as pointed out by juhasow

Juhasow

battlefeel wrote: »

The bonus for having 5 pieces is approximately 2.31x the value of a one-piece bonus

Weapon Critical or Spell Critical rating has been increased by 21%

(values are legendary)
833 x 2.31 = 1924.23

I don't understand why people are complaining this is in line with patch notes its literally simple math

Well... then why VO 5 piece weapon dmg isnt 129 x 2,31= 297,99 ?

lonewolf26

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

A "Willows Path"-Future patch or a "XP Grindspot"-Future patch?

Closer to an XP grind spot future

I just hope in the interim we don't see people getting banned for using the set as an 'exploit.' It's happened in the past and with how few people come to read the forums these days I'd not be up for another Savior's Hide fiasco.

battlefeel

VO should have it too, thats in line with the patch notes + commentary

I just forget to mention it

VoRaVeLi

Some trial bosses can't be set off balance and that's where the 5th bonus on IA comes in handy.

Cage_Lizardman

Best "unintended feature" ever. Please keep it and fix Ice Furnace instead.

dpencil1

VoRaVeLi wrote: »

Some trial bosses can't be set off balance and that's where the 5th bonus on IA comes in handy.

Ummm, what?
Correct me if I'm wrong here:
-Minor Vulnerability procs on Concussed status effect
-Concussed has a chance to proc from any lightning damage
-Off balance would proc Exploiter, which is a totally seperate situation from Minor Vulnerability

ArchMikem

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

Of course they will...

Anethum

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

why u deleted it from english patchnote? here is the screen of the unrefreshed page that i and my friend had read yesterday and she didn't closed it on her phone after reading so opened it today and made this screenshot...
If not intended why it was in patchnote and is on live eso?
I'm not worry about that it is overpowered and makes Mother sorrow useless, i'm worrying about to not take part of such "games of mind", where someone make me feel i have unhealthy imagination or memory.

dpencil1

The first reply Gina gave was that there was a copy/paste error in the patch notes, so that's probably what she was referring to initially.

GDOFWR420

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Not intentional - we'll be fixing it in a future patch so it's not as strong.

Boooooooooo

Sargentwilko51

@ZOS_GinaBruno

In regards to the aether 'blip'..

There is a rising tide that this will be in the console update for horns of the reach... knowing that there is a longer patch cycle for console than there is for pc, can we realistically expect that infallible aether will be correct when Horns of the Reach is released for console in a week and a half?

DeHei

Its really strong actually and to strong in relation to other sets. when if will fall down to 833 crit rating it lose something of arround 5,5% krit. I think then it will be more balanced again.

pod88kk

IA, elegant, dots, ilambris, molten armaments..... Magdk easy mode super happy fun time

Dymence

DeHei wrote: »

Its really strong actually and to strong in relation to other sets. when if will fall down to 833 crit rating it lose something of arround 5,5% krit. I think then it will be more balanced again.

I actually hope it won't entirely fall down to 833 crit. Maybe slightly above. It is a 5 piece after all, one can only hope.

BigBadVolk

#MakeMajorSlayerSetsUsefullToMagickaClassesTwo oh wait wrong thread...

DeHei

Dymence wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Its really strong actually and to strong in relation to other sets. when if will fall down to 833 crit rating it lose something of arround 5,5% krit. I think then it will be more balanced again.

I actually hope it won't entirely fall down to 833 crit. Maybe slightly above. It is a 5 piece after all, one can only hope.

But dont forget, that this sets have 2 good stats at the 5th piece bonus. The good other stat on this set is the effect for a heavy attack.

kojou

DeHei wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Its really strong actually and to strong in relation to other sets. when if will fall down to 833 crit rating it lose something of arround 5,5% krit. I think then it will be more balanced again.

I actually hope it won't entirely fall down to 833 crit. Maybe slightly above. It is a 5 piece after all, one can only hope.

But dont forget, that this sets have 2 good stats at the 5th piece bonus. The good other stat on this set is the effect for a heavy attack.

Not really... the Minor Vulnerability debuff is redundant with the lightning concussion debuff, and the bonus damage to heavy attacks isn't enough to justify the 5 piece bonus on its own.

Having a larger than normal crit bonus is justified for this set, but probably not at ~1900.

I would like to see the affect changed from Minor Vulnerability changed to buffing the player with Major Slayer for x seconds, or something else that gives a compelling reason to use the set, but making the crit value higher takes less programming on ZOS's part.

Dymence

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Its really strong actually and to strong in relation to other sets. when if will fall down to 833 crit rating it lose something of arround 5,5% krit. I think then it will be more balanced again.

I actually hope it won't entirely fall down to 833 crit. Maybe slightly above. It is a 5 piece after all, one can only hope.

But dont forget, that this sets have 2 good stats at the 5th piece bonus. The good other stat on this set is the effect for a heavy attack.

Not really... the Minor Vulnerability debuff is redundant with the lightning concussion debuff, and the bonus damage to heavy attacks isn't enough to justify the 5 piece bonus on its own.

Having a larger than normal crit bonus is justified for this set, but probably not at ~1900.

I would like to see the affect changed from Minor Vulnerability changed to buffing the player with Major Slayer for x seconds, or something else that gives a compelling reason to use the set, but making the crit value higher takes less programming on ZOS's part.

Nah Major Slayer on heavy would be way OP and benefitting mostly to sorc who doesn't need it. Something would be nice for sure, but I don't think it's very high on the priority list right now.

Asardes

Since the minor vulnerability is no longer unique to that set I think it should do something else. For example instead of simply boosting heavy attacks it should add an effect similar to the Master bow: gain X spell damage against enemies affected by the Y debuff for Z seconds.