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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
I'm disappointed ZoS(rare mounts)
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✭The rare horse mount isnt that great. I can hardly tell it apart from the other dwarven one.[DC/NA]3 -
Kyoma✭✭✭Will I be able to forget all the wounds that pierce my flesh?
You and your childish justice. I'll rip it to pieces.
Come on, it's showtime. A rain of blood like a volcano
And now I'll blow all of you and you and you...
All to tiny pieces. All to tiny pieces.3 -
Kyoma✭✭✭
No not really... You?FloppyTouch wrote: »
Will I be able to forget all the wounds that pierce my flesh?
You and your childish justice. I'll rip it to pieces.
Come on, it's showtime. A rain of blood like a volcano
And now I'll blow all of you and you and you...
All to tiny pieces. All to tiny pieces.0 -
Krayzie✭✭✭✭✭Thousands of dollars on crown crates?I'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.2 -
Grymmoire✭✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »*SNIP* I have spent over 1k usd on crown crates trying so hard to get that rare horse mount but time after time failed attempt after failure. *SNIP*
I'm done spending any money on this game these rng mounts are the last straw. It's not the money it's the fact crate after crate after crate and nothing over and over again and no chance at getting it. This is not right if I spend the money I should have the option to buy it. *SNIP*
Sorry to hear that. However, you do know you have a "chance" albeit, an abysmally tiny one! It is exactly the marketing strategy employed to get you, me and many others to continue to feed the crate machine, in the hope of getting the item we want.BlackSparrow wrote: »
*SNIP*FloppyTouch wrote: »I have friends that got that free crown crate and go them I feel like this was done to make people like me feel like it's possible to get the mount if we keep buying them. When in reality they are just taken are money and it's not even in the drop table.
Sorry to hear you had such lousy luck, and by all means, stop spending money on the game if that's what you want to do. It may help send a message to upper management about this particular marketing stunt... but probably not. At least you've come out of it a little wiser for it.
Imho, sending the marketing department any message is probably totally fruitless. They hired that certain woman to employ strategies to maximize returns from the cash shop; the crown crates are only one of those 'dangling carrots' being used. But if the trend to place rare drops continues, I know my limited use of these crates will become non-existent, and pun intended, they can take that to the bank!
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✭FloppyTouch wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »Thousands of dollars on this? Virtual MMO gambling? Come on, man, that's beyond supporting the game. That doesn't justify this. You have a serious problem, and I'm not just saying that to be rude. Gambling thousands of dollars away would be bad even at the casino. This is just insane.
Honestly though, I feel more sorry for you than anything because these MMO developers bleed people like you dry and you don't even realize you're being taken advantage of. This is clearly an addiction. Despite what you say, you will probably continue compulsively buying these crates in some hope of getting what you want.
A problem would be if I lost my house and job bc of this. A problem is when it effects ur life. This does not harm me in any way I don't see ur point. What might seem a lot for you is not a lot for another.
My issue and the point a lot of you are missing is for some there is no way to get these mounts. I'm disappointed that I can't get these I could throw thousands more and still never get it. Want I do with my money is none of ur business. How ZoS tricks me into thinking I can get a mount is an issue.
Well it sure sounds like you're on your way. Unless you're a millionaire (which you're not; millionaires don't do this kind of thing with their money), thousands of dollars is a lot to spend on microtransactions. Then again, I don't know what your spending timeline looks like, so maybe it isn't a lot. But that's still crazy. Nobody with sense spends thousands of dollars gambling. And they especially don't get upset when they logically don't win a grand prize. ZOS did not trick you into anything. You understood what this was when you bought the first 300 crates and decided to keep buying them regardless.
I'm glad to meet someone on the forums that knows so much about me in rl and also knows many millionaires and how they spend there cash.
You seem to be missing the point of this post no point in saying the same thing over again. I'm sorry how I spend my money upsets you.
The point of this post is that you're upset about a reality you were completely aware of. What you do with your money is no concerne of mine, but you told us how much you spent as is if that somehow makes your situation more sympathetic to them when in fact, it does the opposite. It just tells them how efficient their business model is that they can get people like you to spend thousands of dollars on microtransactions. This is not something you complain about after the fact. They don't care. They got more money from you just in this Crown Crate season than they'll ever get from me.
Your point is telling us this system is a rip off, which we all already knew. My point is that you're wasting your breath complaining about it now. You're a shining example of why this system isn't going anywhere any time soon.10 -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭While I think ZOS did a very mean thing to their loyal customers with crown crates in general and this addition to it in particular...if anything, you've just convinced them it was a great idea because of the insane amount of money you DID spend before giving up
While spending your money is your own business and I'm not judging that, the fact that there are people who spend thousands and thousands on these elusive mounts means that model is a success and will carry on to next crown crate seasons, probably in bigger scale too. Which is sad.5 -
rynth✭✭✭✭✭Actually the crate system is a very nice system with regards to being able to cash in on stuff for the crown money. Sure you take a risk, but it is just the luck of the draw. Last crate stuff I got two of the woodland mounts and I think I ended up opening 10 or 12 crates through it's entire sale. But the nice thing is I save my crate money to purchase stuff I want.
This is in no way zos fault but, your own fault for purchasing crates thinking you would get what you want. Need to take responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming others.When asked what he would do for a Klondike bar. Grand Moff Tarkin said "why I would blow up Alderaan."1 -
Davor✭✭✭✭✭
✭BloodWolfe wrote: »STOP SUPPORTING CROWN CRATES! These are the epitome of greed. That amount of money could have been spent in many better ways. I'm all for supporting this game which is why I'm an ESO+ subscriber and buy the odd additional crown packs but the crates are beyond ridiculous and people need to stop buying them.
I refuse to buy the overpriced crap too. Sorry but 5k+ for any motif is bs, 4k mundus stones is bs, anything about 2500 crowns for a mount is bs, the prices to buy houses is again bs. I can buy other full games for these prices, ZOS is far too greedy and focus on the few who buy blindly over pricing more reasonably and getting more sales which brings more money in the long run. Damn greed and short sightedness is what is wrong with this industry and the people who support it are just as bad.
Nobody to blame but yourself though.
Pot meet Kettle.
Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"1 -
Davor✭✭✭✭✭
✭FloppyTouch wrote: »BloodWolfe wrote: »STOP SUPPORTING CROWN CRATES! These are the epitome of greed. That amount of money could have been spent in many better ways. I'm all for supporting this game which is why I'm an ESO+ subscriber and buy the odd additional crown packs but the crates are beyond ridiculous and people need to stop buying them.
I refuse to buy the overpriced crap too. Sorry but 5k+ for any motif is bs, 4k mundus stones is bs, anything about 2500 crowns for a mount is bs, the prices to buy houses is again bs. I can buy other full games for these prices, ZOS is far too greedy and focus on the few who buy blindly over pricing more reasonably and getting more sales which brings more money in the long run. Damn greed and short sightedness is what is wrong with this industry and the people who support it are just as bad.
Nobody to blame but yourself though.
Another poster that misses the point.
I'm not blaming anyone, and I agree 100% it's why I stated next season if there is these super rare rng mount I will not be buying them. It's my choice in the end.
I tried bc it was new it did not play out well and I won't be doing it again. What this has cost ZoS is a huge supporter of this game. I hope you can try to understand where I am coming from instead of trying to shame me in any way. I know it's the popular view on these crates and makes you feel high and mighty but this is not where I'm coming from.
No need to explain yourself to this person. He or she thinks he or she is better than you. He/she is doing the exact same thing you are doing but on a less scale. In the end he/she should look in the mirror because he/she is doing the EXACT same thing as you are.
He/she is behind a monitor not using their real name so easy for them to try and shame you. So glad you are staying classy, again, good for you.Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"3 -
HorrorShow✭✭✭✭Dislike the gem system. At least in SWTOR I could sell what I didn't want on the market and make money.
System needs a redesign.
"Never go in, miss. Never say a prayer at its door. If you are angry, do not seek revenge by the Laughing Maiden Stone, or at the threshold of the Tombs. There be those who listen for oaths and vows...What may be said in innocence and ire becomes flesh and blood in such places."
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✭✭✭✭I think casinos have to publish their odds and are subject to citations and such if what is published is not what is happening.
I don't think this applies to ZoS or to MMO/online gaming type stuff. We have enough research by peeps opening long series' of crates on video to show what the odds are, and that they change.
At that point, throwing your money at it and hoping it will all work out shows that ZoS knows human nature pretty well.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis2 -
Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Thousands of dollars on this? Virtual MMO gambling? Come on, man, that's beyond supporting the game. That doesn't justify this. You have a serious problem, and I'm not just saying that to be rude. Gambling thousands of dollars away would be bad even at the casino. This is just insane.
Honestly though, I feel more sorry for you than anything because these MMO developers bleed people like you dry and you don't even realize you're being taken advantage of. This is clearly an addiction. Despite what you say, you will probably continue compulsively buying these crates in some hope of getting what you want.
A problem would be if I lost my house and job bc of this. A problem is when it effects ur life. This does not harm me in any way I don't see ur point. What might seem a lot for you is not a lot for another.
My issue and the point a lot of you are missing is for some there is no way to get these mounts. I'm disappointed that I can't get these I could throw thousands more and still never get it. Want I do with my money is none of ur business. How ZoS tricks me into thinking I can get a mount is an issue.
Well it sure sounds like you're on your way. Unless you're a millionaire (which you're not; millionaires don't do this kind of thing with their money), thousands of dollars is a lot to spend on microtransactions. Then again, I don't know what your spending timeline looks like, so maybe it isn't a lot. But that's still crazy. Nobody with sense spends thousands of dollars gambling. And they especially don't get upset when they logically don't win a grand prize. ZOS did not trick you into anything. You understood what this was when you bought the first 300 crates and decided to keep buying them regardless.
You're right. I must have just imagined all that car crash tv my wife watches that show some of these people spending tens of thousands of dollars on some inane party or outfit (that usually only gets worn once) every week or 2. If that isn't pissing your money away I dunno what is. However, it's their cash so who am I to sit and dictate to them what they can and can't do. Same goes for the author of this thread.
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Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »I think casinos have to publish their odds and are subject to citations and such if what is published is not what is happening.
I don't think this applies to ZoS or to MMO/online gaming type stuff. We have enough research by peeps opening long series' of crates on video to show what the odds are, and that they change.
At that point, throwing your money at it and hoping it will all work out shows that ZoS knows human nature pretty well.
They don't because the items we can win don't have a monetary value in a legal sense. That may change as the practise is becoming more popular and these things tend to get picked up as they evolve.2 -
Arundo✭✭✭✭✭I'm in the same boat as the OP, I dont care about spending money on the game to get everything in each crate. Got everything up to these current crates but these extra special mounts *** me off. I'm at a point to give up on my quest to get everything from the store, I'm about to just buy things which I like and forget about the rest.
In the end that will probably save me lots of money on this game. I say stupid move by ZOS to put these mounts in there. Knowing ZOS they will probably go further with this.4 -
Alchemical✭✭✭✭✭It's funny because I got 3 apex mounts from dropping $30. I got the Guar, Bear, and Wolf from about 20 crates. I got something around ~50 Wild Hunt crates and got 2 Guar. I figured the drop rate must have been upped significantly, but I guess I just got really lucky. Of course I haven't gotten one of the new HIDDEN APEX ULTRA RARE ones yet.
But even I, who's dropped 10 grand on mounts for a game I don't even play anymore, knows not to play Gatcha to win something. Do it because you have extra money and don't care what you get. But if you're aiming to get something, trust me, you won't, and you'll be ANGRY that you didn't.1 -
CMFan1966✭✭✭✭✭It's not really for anyone to judge what the OP spends his/her money on. I've spent more than my fair share on crates too, but I don't really go into it with high expectations. What would be nice is if these items weren't bound to your account and you could trade with your friends. Especially the ones you can't buy for gems. Besides one horse and the sweetroll, I have no idea what else is behind the RNG wall.1 -
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✭✭TBH OP, I was once like you - I had all the mounts in the game and intended to keep spending regardless of whether they were limited time, crazily priced Christmas reindeer or from crown crates/gems - and then I took an ultra rare mount release to the knee...
At first I raged, suggested they could be sold for 1,000 or more gems and so on because within reason I don't mind dumping money into the cosmetics I want - so I get where you are coming from...
But after a while I realised that ZOS had, mistakenly I'm sure, set me free - I can never ever have *all* the mounts again because I have missed these ones and so I AM FREE!
I never have to buy another time limited mount that is just a recolour of one I have..
I never have to buy another 'just one more' set of crown crates to get that missing mount because I can never have a complete set.
Never need bother with another bear or camel that I don't really want.
I AM FREE!!
Sure I'll buy crowns again and probably even some crates but I'll never have that pressure to keep my collection complete and so my spending will drop off quite a lot.
I suggest you consider this could do the same for you too - think of all the things you can spend that extra money on, money a marginally less greedy company would have been able to have from you but that ZOS have stupidly thrown away GM - Malazan
Raid Leader - Hungry Wolves
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Arundo✭✭✭✭✭Alchemical wrote: »But even I, who's dropped 10 grand on mounts for a game I don't even play anymore, knows not to play Gatcha to win something. Do it because you have extra money and don't care what you get. But if you're aiming to get something, trust me, you won't, and you'll be ANGRY that you didn't.
Thats why the gem option to eventually get everything was a great feature. But I guess greedy ZOS wants even more money out of this game with these mounts you can only get through RNG luck (with 0.000000000000000000000000000001% chance).Edited by Arundo on August 13, 2017 7:38PM1 -
FLuFFyxMuFFiN✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm not against crown crates but there is a point where you should be asking yourself is a mount really worth this much money?1 -
Arundo✭✭✭✭✭FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »I'm not against crown crates but there is a point where you should be asking yourself is a mount really worth this much money?
True, that point is for everyone different but in the past there was atleast a way to get the items for sure. Now not so much, for me the point is reached where I dont want to spend anymore money on these crown crates. I just wonder if ZOS has thought this through enough.0 -
ThePrinceOfBargains✭✭✭✭✭
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You didn't imagine it. You saw people without sense throwing all of their money away. I'm sure they'll probably blame the system later when they don't have any left. Never said OP couldn't spend his money that way. I just said it was stupid, and for some reason, he feels he's been betrayed. He says he's not complaining about the money, but he clearly is. It obviously wasn't a problem until he spent a certain amount. Now at the end of his impulsive spending crusade, he wants to blame the system when he knew the reality of the situation beforehand. It's too late to complain.Prof_Bawbag wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »Thousands of dollars on this? Virtual MMO gambling? Come on, man, that's beyond supporting the game. That doesn't justify this. You have a serious problem, and I'm not just saying that to be rude. Gambling thousands of dollars away would be bad even at the casino. This is just insane.
Honestly though, I feel more sorry for you than anything because these MMO developers bleed people like you dry and you don't even realize you're being taken advantage of. This is clearly an addiction. Despite what you say, you will probably continue compulsively buying these crates in some hope of getting what you want.
A problem would be if I lost my house and job bc of this. A problem is when it effects ur life. This does not harm me in any way I don't see ur point. What might seem a lot for you is not a lot for another.
My issue and the point a lot of you are missing is for some there is no way to get these mounts. I'm disappointed that I can't get these I could throw thousands more and still never get it. Want I do with my money is none of ur business. How ZoS tricks me into thinking I can get a mount is an issue.
Well it sure sounds like you're on your way. Unless you're a millionaire (which you're not; millionaires don't do this kind of thing with their money), thousands of dollars is a lot to spend on microtransactions. Then again, I don't know what your spending timeline looks like, so maybe it isn't a lot. But that's still crazy. Nobody with sense spends thousands of dollars gambling. And they especially don't get upset when they logically don't win a grand prize. ZOS did not trick you into anything. You understood what this was when you bought the first 300 crates and decided to keep buying them regardless.
You're right. I must have just imagined all that car crash tv my wife watches that show some of these people spending tens of thousands of dollars on some inane party or outfit (that usually only gets worn once) every week or 2. If that isn't pissing your money away I dunno what is. However, it's their cash so who am I to sit and dictate to them what they can and can't do. Same goes for the author of this thread.
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Arundo✭✭✭✭✭You didn't imagine it. You saw people without sense throwing all of their money away. I'm sure they'll probably blame the system later when they don't have any left. Never said OP couldn't spend his money that way. I just said it was stupid, and for some reason, he feels he's been betrayed. He says he's not complaining about the money, but he clearly is. It obviously wasn't a problem until he spent a certain amount. Now at the end of his impulsive spending crusade, he wants to blame the system when he knew the reality of the situation beforehand. It's too late to complain.
The systems changed, a valid point to complain imo.
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He'd have a valid point if they were allowing us to buy those mounts with crown gems first, then changed it halfway through the season. It's a valid point for people who don't spend thousands of dollars on this crap and prove it's an effective model. He has absolutely no legs to stand on. It's a horrible system yes, but what's telling them he won't spend money after giving them thousands showing them?You didn't imagine it. You saw people without sense throwing all of their money away. I'm sure they'll probably blame the system later when they don't have any left. Never said OP couldn't spend his money that way. I just said it was stupid, and for some reason, he feels he's been betrayed. He says he's not complaining about the money, but he clearly is. It obviously wasn't a problem until he spent a certain amount. Now at the end of his impulsive spending crusade, he wants to blame the system when he knew the reality of the situation beforehand. It's too late to complain.
The systems changed, a valid point to complain imo.1 -
Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I get what @TheMaster is saying and to a certain degree, I agree with him.
I also agree with the person i originally quoted to an extent too. If people are sinking 1k and over into cosmetics, they're gonna continue ploughing more cash in regardless of what they claim on here. I suspect the OP is doing what we've all been guilty of in the past, and not just limited to this game or any game for that matter, saying we're not gonna do 'X' again when the red mist has descended, yet quickly forgotten once it's lifted.
I just think they're being overly critical in doing so but again, we're all guilty of being overly critically. After all, it is the internet and it's what we do.
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Arundo✭✭✭✭✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »I get what @TheMaster is saying and to a certain degree, I agree with him.
I also agree with the person i originally quoted to an extent too. If people are sinking 1k and over into cosmetics, they're gonna continue ploughing more cash in regardless of what they claim on here. I suspect the OP is doing what we've all been guilty of in the past, and not just limited to this game or any game for that matter, saying we're not gonna do 'X' again when the red mist has descended, yet quickly forgotten once it's lifted.
I just think they're being overly critical in doing so but again, we're all guilty of being overly critically. After all, it is the internet and it's what we do.
Well TheMaster is not reading the OP and neither are you it seems. The OP is not complaining about the cash he spend and that the amount needed to get everything is getting higher and higher. He is talking about the RNG on some of the items in the current crown crates. Which is my main issue with this quarter's crates aswell.
There is a difference with the current situation and the previous situation. I will probably keep spending cash on the shop as some of the new coming items are really nice. But I'm not sure if it will be the same amount as before as if I cant get everything without praying to the RNG gods I wont bother with the stuff I dont like or need. (Thats how I think as a completist about these things).
But I keep repeating myself here so lets agree to disagree, difference of opionion etc.
Edited by Arundo on August 13, 2017 10:27PM1 -
Patouf✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »I have been a huge supporter of crown crates spent thousands of dollars on them. I have never complained about them at all it's by choice I buy them. The plus side to me about crown crates is I can convert items into gems and just buy the cool mount I really want. But with the new crown crates that has been taken away from me.
I have spent over 1k usd on crown crates trying so hard to get that rare horse mount but time after time failed attempt after failure. I have every item and all the mounts but not the rare one I wanted so bad. I feel like ZoS has let greed taken over finally and not given us a chance to just buy these rare mounts with gems. Even if these rare mounts where sold for 800 gems it would be better then locking them behind a complete rng wall.
In the MMORPG world I'm considered a whale, I have plenty of extra income and don't mind spending large amounts of money to get the fluff items I want but I have a breaking point.
I'm done spending any money on this game these rng mounts are the last straw. It's not the money it's the fact crate after crate after crate and nothing over and over again and no chance at getting it. This is not right if I spend the money I should have the option to buy it.
Be smart.Ruined Laggy Broken GameSithis & Psijic OrderSithis and spacetime. From nothing to everything.Dark, Aurbis, Aetherius-Oblivion, Mundus, Nirn, Tamriel. Dark again, something else.Dark is categorical, the absolute zero.VØID1 -
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He's talking about RNG on items that were specifically stated to be extremely rare even apart from the Legendary items. They were obviously introduced specifically for getting people to do exactly what the OP did, hence why they can't be purchased with crown gems. He knew this. I fail to see how this at all changes the truth of what I'm saying in response. Aside from the outright absurdity of him threatening not to spend more money on crates after spending thousands, the fact of the matter is, the money he's spent is part of the issue. If it weren't an issue, the RNG wouldn't matter. How much more he has to spend to get that mount wouldn't matter. When you boil the issue down, it comes back to money and the fact he isn't guaranteed his desired reward after spending a certain amount. Just because he isn't consciously aware of this doesn't mean it's not true.Prof_Bawbag wrote: »I get what @TheMaster is saying and to a certain degree, I agree with him.
I also agree with the person i originally quoted to an extent too. If people are sinking 1k and over into cosmetics, they're gonna continue ploughing more cash in regardless of what they claim on here. I suspect the OP is doing what we've all been guilty of in the past, and not just limited to this game or any game for that matter, saying we're not gonna do 'X' again when the red mist has descended, yet quickly forgotten once it's lifted.
I just think they're being overly critical in doing so but again, we're all guilty of being overly critically. After all, it is the internet and it's what we do.
Well TheMaster is not reading the OP and neither are you it seems. The OP is not complaining about the cash he spend and that the amount needed to get everything is getting higher and higher. He is talking about the RNG on some of the items in the current crown crates. Which is my main issue with this quarter's crates aswell.
There is a difference with the current situation and the previous situation. I will probably keep spending cash on the shop as some of the new coming items are really nice. But I'm not sure if it will be the same amount as before as if I cant get everything without praying to the RNG gods I wont bother with the stuff I dont like or need. (Thats how I think as a completist about these things).
But I keep repeating myself here so lets agree to disagree, difference of opionion etc.
And I'm not sure if you've read the other posts, but the OP was contradicting himself anyway. One sentence he says he's not blaming them, in another he says they "tricked" him. I'm understanding him just fine. He feels cheated. But this topic does nothing but assure ZOS that the Ultra Rare mounts were a great idea.
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