ZOS why do you bother fixing proc sets?

Dr.NRG

Proc sets are bad for pvp and gotta go well all know that and more or less agree on that issue. However, why does zos bother fixing them over and over and then introduce something worse??? The new enchant proc meta is gonna be worse than proc sets have been all a long. They can crit, they hit hard as faqu, and some are even unresisitable. They are bad already just not many ppl have realized that and it hasnt become meta quite yet. Best thing about em is they can be proced almost on cool down.

Guess what, ill bet yall next patch all these no skill viper gamers gonna run torugs packt on their stam builds! And yeah that will hit harder and proc more often than viper. There was hope when we saw the patch notes and learned that proc sets finally moving in a better direction(hopefully they gone for good in pvp at some point). But no apparently for every fix we get we get something worse to compensate for it to make lazy people feel powerfull in pvp without having to learn how the game works.

ZOS why? You force ppl in pve to get good to beat endgame content! Why dont you do the same for pvp? Dungeons, trials... all get harder to beat while pvp keeps getting zergier and less skill full.

With the new torugs meta, why would you even equip any offensive skills anymore? Just buff and heavy, light attack! might as well use a lightning staff and equip scoria on top off it. All you need. Its gonna be the LightningZerg patch lol

Emma_Overload

LOL, so much exaggeration. Oblivion enchants are strong, but you're not going to be able to light attack people to death, at least not good players.

Honestly, I don't think you're going to hear as many complaints about this new "meta" for one simple reason: both Stamina AND Magicka builds have equal access to Oblivion enchants. That wasn't true of the proc set meta, which heavily favored Stamina builds.

Rickter

There has been real concern over the new buff to Infused weapons and the Oblivion enchants.

Many pvpers have been using builds to maximise their dmg. Regardless of how it was presented, the HotR Infused trait needs a closer look.

EdTerra

Torug + infused is already fixed on the PTS

Fixed an issue where the Infused weapon trait and the Torug’s Pact set bonus were stacking additively instead of multiplicatively.

some people already use it on the EU servers and I have no problem against them, the hype about it remind me the 2h ultimate release's hype, and it will end the same, Imo.

Well as mageblade, avoiding shieldbreaker or oblivion damage is pretty easy for us (if not marked at least), I don't know for other classes but I'm pretty sure they can easly deal with it

Rickter

ah i missed that. thanks for clarifying. glad it was addressed. was a little worried haha.

DisgracefulMind

EdTerra wrote: »

Torug + infused is already fixed on the PTS

Fixed an issue where the Infused weapon trait and the Torug’s Pact set bonus were stacking additively instead of multiplicatively.

some people already use it on the EU servers and I have no problem against them, the hype about it remind me the 2h ultimate release's hype, and it will end the same, Imo.

Well as mageblade, avoiding shieldbreaker or oblivion damage is pretty easy for us (if not marked at least), I don't know for other classes but I'm pretty sure they can easly deal with it

They're still going to be disgustingly strong, though. Magblade and Stamblade are lucky because we can cloak to heal, other classes have to take multiple people at one time using oblivion enchants on them and hope they can outheal that + other burst. ZoS did fix the way Torug's and Infused were stacking, but it's still gross.

OdinForge

Emma_Overload wrote: »

LOL, so much exaggeration. Oblivion enchants are strong, but you're not going to be able to light attack people to death, at least not good players.

Honestly, I don't think you're going to hear as many complaints about this new "meta" for one simple reason: both Stamina AND Magicka builds have equal access to Oblivion enchants. That wasn't true of the proc set meta, which heavily favored Stamina builds.

Magicka builds were using the oblivion enchant last patch too, only oblivion enchants are more of a threat to most medium armor setups than they are to most magicka builds.

Both my magnb and my magsorc used oblivion on the front bar, with increase spell damage on the back bar. The proc meta may have favored stamina, but magicka was putting that enchant to good use too.

NBrookus

Proc sets are still strong, but are counterable. Good step.
Magicka proc sets are now a thing. Not as many or as strong, but there's MORE of them. Well... that's fair.

Then we have enchant procs. It totally makes sense to fix proc sets by making them counterable, while buffing completely uncounterable oblivion damage. Right?

Employment prospects for healers just went up. I am confused why the devs think running in a blob with 50% necropotence-boosted twilight healers while systematically disbanding other play styles is engaging gameplay.

Dr.NRG

Proc sets still suck. Especially with lag involved.

Lucky28

Emma_Overload wrote: »

LOL, so much exaggeration. Oblivion enchants are strong, but you're not going to be able to light attack people to death, at least not good players.

Honestly, I don't think you're going to hear as many complaints about this new "meta" for one simple reason: both Stamina AND Magicka builds have equal access to Oblivion enchants. That wasn't true of the proc set meta, which heavily favored Stamina builds.

i don't care if it favors magicka and Stamina. Stacking proc sets was/is garbage.

i agree tho. i don't think Enchants are gonna be that big of an issue.

leepalmer95

Lucky28 wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

LOL, so much exaggeration. Oblivion enchants are strong, but you're not going to be able to light attack people to death, at least not good players.

Honestly, I don't think you're going to hear as many complaints about this new "meta" for one simple reason: both Stamina AND Magicka builds have equal access to Oblivion enchants. That wasn't true of the proc set meta, which heavily favored Stamina builds.

i don't care if it favors magicka and Stamina. Stacking proc sets was/is garbage.

i agree tho. i don't think Enchants are gonna be that big of an issue.

They would of been if zos didn't nerf oblivion enchants by 36% last minute.

NightbladeMechanics

I haven't felt like enchants of any kind are overperforming.

Better than fighting poisons imo.

Zbigb4life

Get rid of the proc sets! Only the unskilled use them, these sets completely ruin the game you worked so hard on!

Qbiken

Zbigb4life wrote: »

Get rid of the proc sets! Only the unskilled use them, these sets completely ruin the game you worked so hard on!

Yea agreed, Spell Power Cure has ruined the game for me as well....

I think you underestimate how many sets in the game that are considered proc-sets. There would be little to no sets left to play around with if those were removed.

clocksstoppe

Zbigb4life wrote: »

Get rid of the proc sets! Only the unskilled use them, these sets completely ruin the game you worked so hard on!

Yeah they should delete sorc. RNG Proc *** : the class.