Stop asking for nerfs please. Skill up man!

Coilbox

People will always find ways to trick and tweak the combat to find some advantage wherever they can find it (sets, poisons, skills, etc)... And people will always cry 'nerf this' or 'nerf that' instead of finding a way to counter it.

I've seen thousands of CRYING threads about procsets, people calling these sets cancer and stupid terms like that. I've been using these 'cancer' builds for a time to try, and even wearing 3 procsets, i found a lot of people that smashed my face on the mud once and again... so yeah... There is still room for skill.
Well, these sets will be gone in the next patch due to the constant whine of lazy players. I just saw another thread talking about how poisons will ruin the game (again...) My god, has this game ever stopped getting ruined? xD. But guess what, even if ZOS get rid of poisons, people will find something else after them, no matter what, cause there are thousands of options.

If it would be up to some of them, this game would never stop getting nerfed patch after patch.

Yeah, sometimes I get mad when someone kills me and i cant even react... but there is nothing bad about it, have a look at what killed you, learn and get better. Invest some time on it.

Getting killed doesnt mean that the game is 'unbalanced'.

Unfadingsilence

Why so sad?

idk

Saying to skill up yet defending proc sets as they are. Talk about oxymoron.

Coilbox

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Saying to skill up yet defending proc sets as they are. Talk about oxymoron.

Im not sad, nor i am defending proc sets. L2read. Only thing you got right is the 'skill up' part, thats something at least.

dennissomb16_ESO

The proc sets are not going anywhere. The so called nerfs are so minor combined with the stats increase that proc sets will be used every bit as much after the next patch as they are now.

qsnoopyjr

Sorcs need a nerf on DPS
DK needs a buff on DPS

enough said

MisterBigglesworth

Karmanorway

Coilbox wrote: »

People will always find ways to trick and tweak the combat to find some advantage wherever they can find it (sets, poisons, skills, etc)... And people will always cry 'nerf this' or 'nerf that' instead of finding a way to counter it.

I've seen thousands of CRYING threads about procsets, people calling these sets cancer and stupid terms like that. I've been using these 'cancer' builds for a time to try, and even wearing 3 procsets, i found a lot of people that smashed my face on the mud once and again... so yeah... There is still room for skill.
Well, these sets will be gone in the next patch due to the constant whine of lazy players. I just saw another thread talking about how poisons will ruin the game (again...) My god, has this game ever stopped getting ruined? xD. But guess what, even if ZOS get rid of poisons, people will find something else after them, no matter what, cause there are thousands of options.

If it would be up to some of them, this game would never stop getting nerfed patch after patch.

Yeah, sometimes I get mad when someone kills me and i cant even react... but there is nothing bad about it, have a look at what killed you, learn and get better. Invest some time on it.

Getting killed doesnt mean that the game is 'unbalanced'.

This ^

overclocker303b14_ESO

Completely agree but at the same time I don't know that people that cry for nerfs will ever stop, and think it is far more likely that once whatever it is they are complaining about today gets nerfed they will just move on to the next thing to complain about.

It does seem like ZOS spends a lot of time looking into and addressing this type of feedback and I for one would rather see them focus on other things (vHRC = still bugged, DSA drops suck, more new content, etc.) than continue to focus on this stuff so much.

bubbygink

Coilbox wrote: »

I've been using these 'cancer' builds for a time to try, and even wearing 3 procsets, i found a lot of people that smashed my face on the mud once and again.

TBH I don't think I have seen a more ironic post on these forums than this THREE freaking proc-set using OP telling other people that they need to "skill up" Truly comical. Looks like somebody is afraid that they're about to start get manhandled once their proc-set crutches are nerfed. Sorry you won't be able to one-shot people with light attacks + procs anymore, looks like you're just going to have to "skill up man."

josiahva

Coilbox wrote: »

People will always find ways to trick and tweak the combat to find some advantage wherever they can find it (sets, poisons, skills, etc)... And people will always cry 'nerf this' or 'nerf that' instead of finding a way to counter it.

I've seen thousands of CRYING threads about procsets, people calling these sets cancer and stupid terms like that. I've been using these 'cancer' builds for a time to try, and even wearing 3 procsets, i found a lot of people that smashed my face on the mud once and again... so yeah... There is still room for skill.
Well, these sets will be gone in the next patch due to the constant whine of lazy players. I just saw another thread talking about how poisons will ruin the game (again...) My god, has this game ever stopped getting ruined? xD. But guess what, even if ZOS get rid of poisons, people will find something else after them, no matter what, cause there are thousands of options.

If it would be up to some of them, this game would never stop getting nerfed patch after patch.

Yeah, sometimes I get mad when someone kills me and i cant even react... but there is nothing bad about it, have a look at what killed you, learn and get better. Invest some time on it.

Getting killed doesnt mean that the game is 'unbalanced'.

I agree. If its not proc sets, it will be some skill on a class they don't play. If its not some skill, it will be some 5 piece bonus they think is OP. If its not some 5 piece bonus, it will be the poison status ailment that allows nightblades with a bow to kill them after ganking them on their horse before they can get up from the ground. If its not ganking nightblades, it will be DKs that dont die fast enough for them. If its not tanky DKs, it will be how CP is ruining PvP. It will continue on just like this for as long as the nerfs continue. The fact is the only way they will ever get to the point where they cant nerf anything else is when we are all reduced to running around without any weapons or armor or skills and are just light and heavy attacking. That is the logical extreme of an unending chain of nerfs.

Wreuntzylla

Most of the complaints are about the lack of diversity available due to proc stacking. The fact that proc sets don't scale off of stats means you can have great burst with crappy stats except for regen, which you stack for great sustain. For 1vx on non-CP servers, you must use proc sets to roll dodge to victory, period.

Everybody knows ZoS will always nerf one thing instead of rebalancing other things.

Prof_Bawbag

Meh, never gonna stop the complaints. Just look at single player games to see you're pissing into the wind on that front. If people lack the self control to stop abusing mechanics in single player games, then complain that X needs nerf'd because they lack the self control, then, well, good luck telling them to zip it in an MMO.

Dekeon

The only winning move is not to play

Malmai

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Saying to skill up yet defending proc sets as they are. Talk about oxymoron.

Or just use OP Mag Sorc shieldstack...

Zordrage

Proc sets =/= Skill

or your telling me you can out skill proc sets ? pls enlighten us how you do it...

Megabear

disintegr8

Sounds like the OP relies on his proc sets and his defence for not nerfing them is that every now and then someone manages to kill him.

I wonder what would happen if we buffed the other skills so the OP died in 4 out of 5 fights.... would he still think it is a L2P issue and he has to get better, or argue that the skills being used against him are overpowered?

Tommy_The_Gun

Mashille

idk

Coilbox wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Saying to skill up yet defending proc sets as they are. Talk about oxymoron.

Im not sad, nor i am defending proc sets. L2read. Only thing you got right is the 'skill up' part, thats something at least.

I read it fine. The crying about those who call for nerfs to proc sets was the most entertaining. Really stopped reading soon after that since it was obviously an absurd pairing with a call to skill up and proc sets do not require skill.

idk, maybe I should have read further to give a benefit of the doubt that the OP was writing in a poorly organized manner.

EDIT: and I use proc sets on a stamplar I play some. I certainly do not consider it much skill using the proc sets. I mostly run characters without proc sets.

Wreuntzylla

disintegr8 wrote: »

Sounds like the OP relies on his proc sets and his defence for not nerfing them is that every now and then someone manages to kill him.

I wonder what would happen if we buffed the other skills so the OP died in 4 out of 5 fights.... would he still think it is a L2P issue and he has to get better, or argue that the skills being used against him are overpowered?

He's clearly trolling. People are just running with it to talk about the subject serious like.

Trinity_Is_My_Name

Agree 100%. Way too many players constantly calling for nerfs. "I just got killed by XXX class! NERF IT!" is the cry of the Nerf Brigade. You nerfers should have your own guild "The Nerf Brigade". It would be a very popular guild in Tamriel!

KingYogi415

I say this on so many QQ threads.

Shout out OP for saying whats real.

Just remeber to these people truth is treason in the empire of lies.....

Cheers!

Tonturri

Trinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »

Agree 100%. Way too many players constantly calling for nerfs. "I just got killed by XXX class! NERF IT!" is the cry of the Nerf Brigade. You nerfers should have your own guild "The Nerf Brigade". It would be a very popular guild in Tamriel!

I would LOVE it if XXX class killed me. Nothing would please me more than to be cc'ed then bursted down by some well timed class abilities.

Please point me in the direction where I can be killed by classes. For whatever reason this...'red mountainviperpoison' or 'tremorviperpoison' thing keeps killing me instead. Did ZOS add a new class in that I'm not aware of?

ForsakenSin

the problem is PVP and PVE they should be separated and be done with there is always some d-bag gets killed in PVP and calls nerfs that affect PVE players ..

Just because some guy can get 50k or 60k dps dose not mean we all can.

Hell ive been in pvp for 3 days for number of hr on my sorc and i got ganked in 5 sec and i killed people.

I know this is about proc sets and honestly , i dont mind or care just stop calling nerfs on others when you get killed by them ffs

MehrunesFlagon

Really with the exception a few. Procs can be be avoided entirely.

MehrunesFlagon

In my experience I tend see 3 seprerate jesus beams far more often than procs on my death recaps.So I think proc sets are a l2p issue. Most have really obvious tells.

Jesus beam was just an example .Could just as easily been mages wrath spam or any other kind of spam.

KochDerDamonen

tbh this is clearly either salt at the procset nerfs, or some bait

More people ask for nerfs than are necessary, as anything is asked for more than necessary here on the forums. It's not always justified, but if you think the game is perfectly fine and balanced as-is... lol

Bobby_V_Rockit

Nerf vMA so that at least 25% of players can do it.

xeNNNNN

Until sorcs are nerfed into the ground and the other classes finally get a chance to shine I will never stop.