I'd like to solo 4 man Dungeons.

Diggitydug

I'm looking for a high survivability build, preferably (not not exclusively) stamina.

I doubt Vet dungeons are possible, but what clad and build do most dungeon soloers do?

humpalicous

Vet dungeons can be soloed, at least the ones where there is no special mechanic like Fungal II or Wayrest II. The solution is simple:

Roll a Mag or Stam Sorc.

Sorc has a unique ability that makes soloing especially easy: Surge - This heals you for every critical hit every 1 second.

There are naturally other self-heals but Surge is one of the best on the game for pure survival.

Sorc for the win.

Diggitydug

Just so happens I have a Stam sorc. I assume dw/bow, though I have wondered what a heavy armor s&b Stam sorc would play like.

Rouven

If you consider mag sorc then perhaps check this out:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/302925/infallible-infinite-wizard-magsorc-vma-build-video-homestead-ready/p1

Sigtric

Agree with the suggestion of sorc above. I've done a few of the older dungeons solo on my Stamsorc

Darkestnght

I use my Berton MagDK with duel destruction staffs to clear a lot of normal dungeons by myself and if I put a resto staff in the mix I can solo a few vet dungeons as well.

Riinj

what is in your opinion a good alternativ to sorc, for people they don't like this flashy thunder theme?

Sordidfairytale

I soloed normal CoS, thought I was doing great until I saw this:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/304762/vet-cradle-of-shadows-has-been-soloed/p1

Sigtric

Riinj wrote: »

what is in your opinion a good alternativ to sorc, for people they don't like this flashy thunder theme?

Magplar would be strong at this.

Anything you are really comfortable with should work too if you have decent self healing

humpalicous

Diggitydug wrote: »

Just so happens I have a Stam sorc. I assume dw/bow, though I have wondered what a heavy armor s&b Stam sorc would play like.

Great, then you're halfway there!

I go full medium on my Stam Sorc, there are a ton of different sets and combinations you can use. Here's a quick breakdown of a build I'm using at the moment to solo vet dungeons:

Stats:

Race: Redguard
Attributes: All in stamina - 35k stam, 18k health, 14k magicka
Recovery: Irrelevant on this build
Crit: 62 %
WP Damage: 3003 (3500 buffed)
Mundues Stone: Thief (will have to test after patch since it's getting a nerf)

Gear:

5x Vicious Ophidian: Inrcedible sustain, MInor Slayer, 30 % more speed, WP dmg - All in all an awesome set.
5x Automaton: Not meta endgame, but works. I don't have full set Two Fanged yet as well.
2x Slimecraw: Unusual, yes, 1 pc sucks. BUT... In solo instanced where you can't access Minor Berserk for the 8 % extra damage, this is golden. Plus it's getting a buff in the upcoming patch. Don't use this set in group environment as most healers give you Minor Berserk.
1x Maelstrom Bow: Doubles the damage of Endless Hail, nuff said.

Skills:

Bar 1: 1 Axe, 1 Dagger (Automaton) - Infused and Precise (not BiS but works fine)
Blood Craze
Rapid Strikes
Deadly Cloak
Rearming Trap
Bound Armaments
Ulti: Dawnbreaker (both morphs are good)

Bar 2: Maelstrom Bow (only defending, RNGesus hates me)
Poison Injection
Endless Hail
Hurricane
Crit Surge
Bound Armaments
Ulti: Ballista

Rotation:

Seriously, just keep Crit Surge and Hurricane up at all times, apply the dots, rapid strikes, light attack between skills and heavy attack when needed.

As long as Crit Surge is up and you're dealing damage and dodging the heavy attacks you're gonna be fine.

Champion Points:

Just follow Alcast's tips on champion point allocation for his stam sorc and you'll be fine.

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Anyway, hope this helped. I am soloing vet dungeons with this without really having to be super-focused, plus I'm only using the crappy pickup stam potions. With the right skill and rotation this build is stupidly powerful, I consider myself a good player, not a great one by any means!

humpalicous

Pardon the typo's, hard to type with my daughter singing along to children's videos

Diggitydug

@humpalicous You sir are a gentleman and a Schollar. Thank you for your input.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

The short answer is that any decent VMA build will easily solo the vast majority of normal four man dungeons. Stam sorc is certainly the easiest stamina build for VMA because they get so many passive heals.

The only things I might change from the above loadout (just personal preference) is that I like hurricane and trap on opposite bars of what he listed, and I suggest the healing morphs of rapid strikes for solo stuff unless you are really comfortable. You might also find that for a lot of the trash, Steel Tornado is better than blood craze. If you find you need an emergency heal, you could drop deadly cloak for Vigor. Deadly cloak is better in group stuff, but vigor might be a touch better when new to soloing stuff. Stam sorcs get so much healing, that you should be able to get away from it.

Diggitydug

@Oreyn_Bearclaw thank you as well for your input.

Waffennacht

Any class can solo vet Dungeons

For mag builds:

Innerlight, class AoE, annulment, blockade, class AoE/Single target EotS

Backbar, Class buffs, ability that has heal components, elemental, dbos

humpalicous

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

The short answer is that any decent VMA build will easily solo the vast majority of normal four man dungeons. Stam sorc is certainly the easiest stamina build for VMA because they get so many passive heals.

The only things I might change from the above loadout (just personal preference) is that I like hurricane and trap on opposite bars of what he listed, and I suggest the healing morphs of rapid strikes for solo stuff unless you are really comfortable. You might also find that for a lot of the trash, Steel Tornado is better than blood craze. If you find you need an emergency heal, you could drop deadly cloak for Vigor. Deadly cloak is better in group stuff, but vigor might be a touch better when new to soloing stuff. Stam sorcs get so much healing, that you should be able to get away from it.

Great input!

Skills are naturally interchangeable depending on the circumstance, and I do agree more aoe-oriented skills are more beneficial in the trash fights (which can be challenging on some occasions if you're not paying attention).

In some instances, like stage 5 VMA (those *** archers in the ice waters) or single target boss fights where the boss literally hits like a truck I do slot vigor for the extra panic healing.

But like Oreyn said, any decent VMA build will be able to solo a vast majority if group content in this game. Whether this was intended or not by the devs is unknown, but it became a reality when they launched VMA and its difficulty forced players to build solo-builds. And since the enemies in VMA hit as hard, if not harder, as mobs in group content you'll automatically build a class that can solo harder content.

Another fan-favorite is of course the Mag Sorc since they have:

A) Surge of course
B But also a very good shield in Hardened Ward

Plus all the juicy stuff such as shock damage that procs concussion which in turn procs off-balance, which means you deal more damage if you've invested correctly in the CP system.

Short answer though:

If you can beat VMA you can beat 4 man content (most of it). Hope I didn't miss anything, or that my intel is wrong

blabliblargh

I've been soloing many normal dungeons with my magsorc since about CP 300 (currently at 350).

It has already been said but the key to survivability is Hardened Ward + Power Surge + more or less stronger Health potions. Especially Hardened Ward. It is your 'I do not die' skill. You keep it always enabled to avoid being one shot. Power Surge healing on crits is nice but is not going to keep you healthy against a boss for long.

Other than that, Elemental Drain (the morph that keep the debuff as long as you are attacking) is extremely useful to debuff bosses prior fight.

The rest is setup around maximizing DPS, especially shock damage and shock AOEs, and having high spell crit (70%). I am using both Inner Light and Bound Aegis on main bar and just Bound Aegis on back bar which holds mostly support skills (Power Surge, Ele Drain, Bound Aegis). All of this with just barely 17K health and a little over 40K magicka.

As ultimate I really like the summoned Atronach, although there are other choices: this electric puppy deals shock damage for a while, has a good radius and with the relevant Daedric Summoning passives increases health by 8% while alive and restores some (modest) magicka when it disappears (like regular pets).

Reorx_Holybeard

I've had good success solo norm/vet dungeons with this Magplar build:

• x5 Kagrenac (good mix of offense, defense and regen but Julianos or any typical Magplar set would work).
• x3 Willpower (mix of spell damage and Magicka Regen enchants as needed).
• x2 Grothdar (more DPS) or Valkyn (more health) as needed
• VMA Destruction and Restoration Staves

You just need a bit more health (I like 20-25k) and more Magicka Regen (as much as you need to not go OOM on long boss fights). Besides that beating most dungeons is mostly a matter of learning the mechanics and handling large groups of mobs. There are some dungeons that are impossible or almost impossible to beat solo...check out @Vaoh excellent posts/videos for ideas on beating these (some are only possible on a Mag Sorc unfortunately).

Tenofas

I am soloing normal dungeons with my magicka warden. I read that stamina warden should be even better for vMA and soloing.

Septimus_Magna

I solo dungeons on a regular basis with my magicka sorc. Vet is possible in some cases but it takes a lot longer so I mostly stick to normal dungeons.

Even direfrost keep can be cleared solo, you can open the gate which leads to the exit of the 3nd boss (with the exploding scamps) and fight him through the gate. Once he's killed walk back to the beginning and take the portal to the boss so you can open the door towards the next bosses.

Magicka sorc is definitly the easiest because you can use pets and a massive 25k+ shield.

Stabbi

Is there a way to pull this off as Stamblade using self heals?

SodanTok

Stabbi wrote: »

Is there a way to pull this off as Stamblade using self heals?

With vigor you can solo NORMAL 4man with any stam build.
But havent tried veteran on stamblade since Morrowind. It should be doable still, but very hard imo.

FrancisCrawford

I haven't soloed as many dungeons as most folks on my magicka sorcerer, but I also haven't had gear better than

5 Necropotence
4 Julianos (or vice versa)
2 Grothdarr (or Ilamabris)

That said:

• If you set your melee pet morph to Clannfear, you can have a very useful tank.
• The Empowered Ward morph generally is enough to avoid one-shot kills, and is easier to sustain.
• Using Twilight Matriarch rather than Bound Aegis gives you an emergency heal. The change clearly reduces your AoE DPS, but in normal mode so what?
• If you do have both Unstable Familiar and Twilight (either morph) in a boss fight, then Daedric Prey is terrifically powerful.

Xvorg

I have a NB build to solo normal dungeons or overland boses:

Race Argonian (extra healing)

5 pieces orgnums + 5 pieces permafrost + 1 health regen monster, all heavy



Bar 1(you just ned one bar, second bar can be useful too for buff/debuff) Charged lit staff

Blockade
harness
Syph attacks
Refreshing path
Swalow soul/entropy/cripple/ele drain/necro orb
U Ele rage

Bar 2 precise resto staff (mostly used against bosses)

Mutagen
Healing ward
double take
mark target
merc resolve

The rotation style is quite simple: blockade --> refreshing -> full heavy attacks. Syph attacks if needed, harness when health drops to increase health recovery.

Your dmg will be very low, but you'll have a hell of survaibility. I've done almost every normal dungeon with that set up, and almost all overland bosses. Some easy vet dungeons can be done too.

Anyway, I have to say that with the old leeching strikes was way better, you were alway full stam to dodge roll.

AAbrigo

Magplar with light julianos and amber plasm plus grothdarr.

Puncturing sweeps, blazing spear, blockade, inner light, ritual of retribution and u r good to go.

RainfeatherUK

Never get tired of how ridiculous the idea is. 'Any class can solo FOUR MAN VETERAN dungeons...sigh.

Is precisely why this game is such a joke. Take a leaf from from WoW/FFXIV and any other top ranked mmo. Group content cant be soloed. For good reason. Its a multiplayer game. Shocking idea I know.

Anunakis

Diggitydug wrote: »

I'm looking for a high survivability build, preferably (not not exclusively) stamina.

I doubt Vet dungeons are possible, but what clad and build do most dungeon soloers do?

u can solo vet dungeons even on hardmode if the dungeon mechanics doesnt require 2 or more players like fg2 or wgt, other dungeons just require just 400+ cp and knowledge but still whats the point of soloing 4 man dungeons ?

Waffennacht

Anunakis wrote: »

Diggitydug wrote: »

I'm looking for a high survivability build, preferably (not not exclusively) stamina.

I doubt Vet dungeons are possible, but what clad and build do most dungeon soloers do?

u can solo vet dungeons even on hardmode if the dungeon mechanics doesnt require 2 or more players like fg2 or wgt, other dungeons just require just 400+ cp and knowledge but still whats the point of soloing 4 man dungeons ?

Undaunted levels

AAbrigo

Waffennacht wrote: »

Anunakis wrote: »

Diggitydug wrote: »

I'm looking for a high survivability build, preferably (not not exclusively) stamina.

I doubt Vet dungeons are possible, but what clad and build do most dungeon soloers do?

u can solo vet dungeons even on hardmode if the dungeon mechanics doesnt require 2 or more players like fg2 or wgt, other dungeons just require just 400+ cp and knowledge but still whats the point of soloing 4 man dungeons ?

Undaunted levels

Do you level up faster by soloing dungeons?

Waffennacht

AAbrigo wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Anunakis wrote: »

Diggitydug wrote: »

I'm looking for a high survivability build, preferably (not not exclusively) stamina.

I doubt Vet dungeons are possible, but what clad and build do most dungeon soloers do?

u can solo vet dungeons even on hardmode if the dungeon mechanics doesnt require 2 or more players like fg2 or wgt, other dungeons just require just 400+ cp and knowledge but still whats the point of soloing 4 man dungeons ?

Undaunted levels

Do you level up faster by soloing dungeons?

Well yes and no. Compared to some PUGs yes, also you get more NPCs to yourself (so killing 100 flame atronachs is much faster solo)

Compared to a solid guild group, no they'll steam roll everything. But I PuG when I'm in a group

No waiting to find players too

Asardes

I've soloed normal dungeons with all my vet chars and it's really easy.