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Dissapointed that the midyear laurel crownis gated behind Dlc and a "Chapter"

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The_Duke
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In my opinion seasonal events should be for everyone. You shouldn't have to buy a "chapter" to get all achievements. Basically I now have to buy morrowind in order to get this.

Pretty crappy way to market DLCs sorry..."chapters" in my opinion.
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  • andreasranasen
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    You can still participate without having to own the DLC's. It's just for certain (not all) achievements that you need the DLC's/Expansion.

    I think it's pretty smart tbh, and a solid marketing move.
    Edited by andreasranasen on July 18, 2017 5:11PM
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  • Wrubius_Coronaria
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    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
    Edited by Wrubius_Coronaria on July 18, 2017 5:18PM
  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    Of course they are going to have something for just Morrowind content. I would get used to it cuz it's gonna become the norm.
  • Sigtric
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    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.


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  • Wrubius_Coronaria
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.

    Irrevelant, the topic here is the mid year event, not the game base.
  • Tandor
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    If you don't buy all the content, you don't get to play all the content.

    Having some of the event limited to those with certain of the content isn't really any different to having it limited to those who PvP. I have zero interest in PvP but I'm glad there's an event that caters for those who do PvP, and I don't see why those who have zero interest in additional content shouldn't be glad there's an event that caters for those who do buy the additional content.
  • mechengr7
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    I don't understand why people feel like they shouldn't have to pay anything to get certain content. The devs have every right to lock certain content behind pay walls. It took a certain amount of time to develop and requires a certain return. It's not like zennimax is producing billionaires left and right. These purchases sustain the game.
    Edited by mechengr7 on July 18, 2017 5:34PM
  • Sigtric
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    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.

    Irrevelant, the topic here is the mid year event, not the game base.

    The only reason it is irrelevant is because it doesn't fit your narrative. The simple fact of the matter is as stated by the comment below yours: if you don't buy the content you don't get to do the content.

    This event has stuff in base game, stuff in Morrowind expansion. If you didn't get Morrowind you are not entitled to that portion of the content.

    Throwing "paywall" around means nothing.

    Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
    Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |

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  • josiahva
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    mechengr7 wrote: »
    I don't understand why people feel like they shouldn't have to pay anything to get certain content. The devs have every right to lock certain content behind pay walls. It took a certain amount of time to develop and requires a certain return. It's not like zennimax is producing billionaires left and right. These purchases sustain the game.

    Haven't you heard? People have right to play all content for free? They have a right to a free education, a right to free healthcare, a right to a free retirement.

    People often think they have a right to anything, just because other people have it. The sad truth of the matter is this, in the famous words of Don Henley: Get over it, the big bad world doesn't owe you a thing.
  • Loralai_907
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    There is no reason one should have expected that this event, or any events in the future, would not utilize the Morrowind "chapter". You don't release something like this and then NOT use it.

    On top of that, PvP players don't exactly have a lot to choose from for content, so one should have expected IC to also be part of the deal.

    Just my opinion.

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  • MLGProPlayer
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    Why would you have to buy Morrowind to participate in this?
  • Beardimus
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    It's a fuss over nothing, base game was £30 two years ago and another £30 now if you want to do the latest stuff. I know not everyone is loaded, but come on.

    And if your budget doesn't permit it, well you just have to accept that the odd achievement you won't get.

    ZOS are here to make money, and it's good for the game that they do.

    Also, Orsinium, and Imp City events were the same FYI.
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  • Wrubius_Coronaria
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    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.

    Irrevelant, the topic here is the mid year event, not the game base.

    The only reason it is irrelevant is because it doesn't fit your narrative. The simple fact of the matter is as stated by the comment below yours: if you don't buy the content you don't get to do the content.

    This event has stuff in base game, stuff in Morrowind expansion. If you didn't get Morrowind you are not entitled to that portion of the content.

    Throwing "paywall" around means nothing.

    Okay, let me explain why your your answer is irrevelant (still). And there is nothing to see with my narrative or I don't know what.

    it's quite simple, in comparison to previous and similars events (I mean events wich are not celebrating dlc anniversary) like witches festival or ESO 2nd and third anniversary, it's the first time some parts are locked and require to buy a chapter and a dlc. I'm talking about general events like this one who are not a part of dlc. So, is that normal to you and acceptable, being forced tp buy a chapter and another dlc if you want to complete this event at 100%? Thus, the event has some parts locked behind another paywall (purchase of dlc).
    That's my point.
    And it's a bad move from zenimax and it will make a lot of players mad about this.
    In my opinion put some parts in morrowind and imperial city (just a tricky move from them for trying to get more sales) was not necessary for the first pvp event.
  • Magdalina
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    I was impression the event revolves around PvP and therefore takes part in Cyrodiil, for the most part, which is accessible for everyone with base game. How is it locked behind a paywall?
  • Sigtric
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    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.

    Irrevelant, the topic here is the mid year event, not the game base.

    The only reason it is irrelevant is because it doesn't fit your narrative. The simple fact of the matter is as stated by the comment below yours: if you don't buy the content you don't get to do the content.

    This event has stuff in base game, stuff in Morrowind expansion. If you didn't get Morrowind you are not entitled to that portion of the content.

    Throwing "paywall" around means nothing.

    Okay, let me explain why your your answer is irrevelant (still). And there is nothing to see with my narrative or I don't know what.

    it's quite simple, in comparison to previous and similars events (I mean events wich are not celebrating dlc anniversary) like witches festival or ESO 2nd and third anniversary, it's the first time some parts are locked and require to buy a chapter and a dlc. I'm talking about general events like this one who are not a part of dlc. So, is that normal to you and acceptable, being forced tp buy a chapter and another dlc if you want to complete this event at 100%? Thus, the event has some parts locked behind another paywall (purchase of dlc).
    That's my point.
    And it's a bad move from zenimax and it will make a lot of players mad about this.
    In my opinion put some parts in morrowind and imperial city (just a tricky move from them for trying to get more sales) was not necessary for the first pvp event.


    1. The first pvp "event" was a no-CP test. All that was needed was people PVPing in Cyrodiil for the duration of the test. This is irrelevant to the event coming up.
    2. Other events are... wait for it... irrelevant. This is a different event. It is not the Witch's Festival, nor New Life or Jester's.
    3. PVP in this game has content included in the base game, in a DLC and in their Chapter. If you want to do content in the DLC or Chapter, you need to buy them. If you don't, you can't complete all PVP achievements anyway.

    This thread is basically just whining because of not wanting to pay for content.


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    Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |

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  • Incognitius
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    I was impression the event revolves around PvP and therefore takes part in Cyrodiil, for the most part, which is accessible for everyone with base game. How is it locked behind a paywall?

    If you look at the achievement list for this festival, you'll see you need to have access to the Imperial Sewers (DLC) and Battlegrounds (Morrowind Chapter) to complete them all.
  • Wrubius_Coronaria
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    OMG, I give up. :D Am I talking martian or an unknown language? What is complicated to understand in my point of view?
    Edited by Wrubius_Coronaria on July 18, 2017 6:12PM
  • MasterSpatula
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    I'm a sub and have Morrowind, so this doesn't hurt me at all.

    But in all the other seasonal events, ZOS made an effort to make sure all the activities could be done in the base-game zones so you didn't need DLC to participate. I have to admit, I do think this was the correct call.

    (However, I may be biased. After all, Battlegrounds are exactly the kind of PVP I have always detested in other games, and one of my great joys in ESO PVP was that it was absolutely nothing like that. I didn't complain when they were added, because it didn't affect me. Now it does.

    On second thought, those are two separate issues. I don't want to do Battlefields, but I guess I will. I also think events should be base game. Unrelated.)
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  • jaye63
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    So add a *free* aspect that gets people interested enough to buy.

    It's not the idea that you would have to *OMG!* pay for some one to work on the game that's a bad idea. It's that there is no teaser to get people to pay for morrowind that's the bad idea. I wouldnt mind seeing sub only in ESO. I've see the quality of player base for sub only and F2P and the sub only community s MUCH better. I can handle an entitlement mentality from some one who is paying to support the game. Not some one who thinks they're owed something because they bought the base game.
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  • Balsagna
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    I love it when people want stuff for nothing. Pretty much mirrors reality these days.
  • ARIES SERPICO
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    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.

    Irrevelant, the topic here is the mid year event, not the game base.

    The only reason it is irrelevant is because it doesn't fit your narrative. The simple fact of the matter is as stated by the comment below yours: if you don't buy the content you don't get to do the content.

    This event has stuff in base game, stuff in Morrowind expansion. If you didn't get Morrowind you are not entitled to that portion of the content.

    Throwing "paywall" around means nothing.

    Okay, let me explain why your your answer is irrevelant (still). And there is nothing to see with my narrative or I don't know what.

    it's quite simple, in comparison to previous and similars events (I mean events wich are not celebrating dlc anniversary) like witches festival or ESO 2nd and third anniversary, it's the first time some parts are locked and require to buy a chapter and a dlc. I'm talking about general events like this one who are not a part of dlc. So, is that normal to you and acceptable, being forced tp buy a chapter and another dlc if you want to complete this event at 100%? Thus, the event has some parts locked behind another paywall (purchase of dlc).
    That's my point.
    And it's a bad move from zenimax and it will make a lot of players mad about this.
    In my opinion put some parts in morrowind and imperial city (just a tricky move from them for trying to get more sales) was not necessary for the first pvp event.

    Too bad, if you want free go to Venezuela
  • Magdalina
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    Incognitius wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    I was impression the event revolves around PvP and therefore takes part in Cyrodiil, for the most part, which is accessible for everyone with base game. How is it locked behind a paywall?

    If you look at the achievement list for this festival, you'll see you need to have access to the Imperial Sewers (DLC) and Battlegrounds (Morrowind Chapter) to complete them all.

    Uh yes. In order to have all the achievements in the game, you need to have bought all the game, that makes sense. There're also dozens of achievements in Morrowind and IC which you cannot have without buying them(or in case of IC, "renting" it as eso+). It doesn't lock you out of the event, you just won't be able to get the achievements related to the parts of the event you don't have access to.
    Edited by Magdalina on July 18, 2017 6:41PM
  • Wrubius_Coronaria
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    ARIES SERPICO wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.

    Irrevelant, the topic here is the mid year event, not the game base.

    The only reason it is irrelevant is because it doesn't fit your narrative. The simple fact of the matter is as stated by the comment below yours: if you don't buy the content you don't get to do the content.

    This event has stuff in base game, stuff in Morrowind expansion. If you didn't get Morrowind you are not entitled to that portion of the content.

    Throwing "paywall" around means nothing.

    Okay, let me explain why your your answer is irrevelant (still). And there is nothing to see with my narrative or I don't know what.

    it's quite simple, in comparison to previous and similars events (I mean events wich are not celebrating dlc anniversary) like witches festival or ESO 2nd and third anniversary, it's the first time some parts are locked and require to buy a chapter and a dlc. I'm talking about general events like this one who are not a part of dlc. So, is that normal to you and acceptable, being forced tp buy a chapter and another dlc if you want to complete this event at 100%? Thus, the event has some parts locked behind another paywall (purchase of dlc).
    That's my point.
    And it's a bad move from zenimax and it will make a lot of players mad about this.
    In my opinion put some parts in morrowind and imperial city (just a tricky move from them for trying to get more sales) was not necessary for the first pvp event.

    Too bad, if you want free go to Venezuela

    Take 5 minutes for read the thread again. Take a break, think and then, try to answer something smart.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.

    Irrevelant, the topic here is the mid year event, not the game base.

    The only reason it is irrelevant is because it doesn't fit your narrative. The simple fact of the matter is as stated by the comment below yours: if you don't buy the content you don't get to do the content.

    This event has stuff in base game, stuff in Morrowind expansion. If you didn't get Morrowind you are not entitled to that portion of the content.

    Throwing "paywall" around means nothing.

    Okay, let me explain why your your answer is irrevelant (still). And there is nothing to see with my narrative or I don't know what.

    it's quite simple, in comparison to previous and similars events (I mean events wich are not celebrating dlc anniversary) like witches festival or ESO 2nd and third anniversary, it's the first time some parts are locked and require to buy a chapter and a dlc. I'm talking about general events like this one who are not a part of dlc. So, is that normal to you and acceptable, being forced tp buy a chapter and another dlc if you want to complete this event at 100%? Thus, the event has some parts locked behind another paywall (purchase of dlc).
    That's my point.
    And it's a bad move from zenimax and it will make a lot of players mad about this.
    In my opinion put some parts in morrowind and imperial city (just a tricky move from them for trying to get more sales) was not necessary for the first pvp event.

    It's normal and it's fine.

    The players who get mad are irrelevant to ZOS anyway since they don't spend money on the game.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on July 18, 2017 6:22PM
  • BrightOblivion
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    jaye63 wrote: »
    So add a *free* aspect that gets people interested enough to buy.

    It's not the idea that you would have to *OMG!* pay for some one to work on the game that's a bad idea. It's that there is no teaser to get people to pay for morrowind that's the bad idea. I wouldnt mind seeing sub only in ESO. I've see the quality of player base for sub only and F2P and the sub only community s MUCH better. I can handle an entitlement mentality from some one who is paying to support the game. Not some one who thinks they're owed something because they bought the base game.

    NONE of this game is F2P, as everyone has to buy at least the base game to play it. Heck, they have to buy the base game to even post on the forums. The proper term is therefore "B2P" (Buy-To-Play).

    As for pure Sub model, they tried that, and it failed spectacularly. Let's not do, or even consider, that again, alright?

    Edit: And I say this as someone who has bought the base game and all dlc plus Morrowind, and has crowns set aside for Horns of the Reach/ plans to buy Clockwork Ciry. I can do dlc here and there. What I can't do is be certain I'm going to have the $ for monthly sub, and I have no desire to lose access to that content for those times.
    Edited by BrightOblivion on July 18, 2017 6:33PM
  • The_Duke
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    MLGProPlayer wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.

    Irrevelant, the topic here is the mid year event, not the game base.

    The only reason it is irrelevant is because it doesn't fit your narrative. The simple fact of the matter is as stated by the comment below yours: if you don't buy the content you don't get to do the content.

    This event has stuff in base game, stuff in Morrowind expansion. If you didn't get Morrowind you are not entitled to that portion of the content.

    Throwing "paywall" around means nothing.

    Okay, let me explain why your your answer is irrevelant (still). And there is nothing to see with my narrative or I don't know what.

    it's quite simple, in comparison to previous and similars events (I mean events wich are not celebrating dlc anniversary) like witches festival or ESO 2nd and third anniversary, it's the first time some parts are locked and require to buy a chapter and a dlc. I'm talking about general events like this one who are not a part of dlc. So, is that normal to you and acceptable, being forced tp buy a chapter and another dlc if you want to complete this event at 100%? Thus, the event has some parts locked behind another paywall (purchase of dlc).
    That's my point.
    And it's a bad move from zenimax and it will make a lot of players mad about this.
    In my opinion put some parts in morrowind and imperial city (just a tricky move from them for trying to get more sales) was not necessary for the first pvp event.

    It's normal and it's fine.

    The players who get mad are irrelevant to ZOS anyway since they don't spend money on the game.

    Ive spent hundreds of dollars on this game. I bought it at release on console for $100 and have continued to sub intermittently and buy crown packs from time to time over 2 years. This isnt my first MMO and typically seasonals are base game only. They are a fun little distraction not a marketing ploy.

    All achievements related to Dlc or "Chapters" should be specific to chapters only. Id like to buy morrowind when I feel like it. And I will, I shouldnt have to buy it to get a PVP achievement or reward.

    My 2 cents
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  • Magdalina
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    The_Duke wrote: »
    MLGProPlayer wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Sigtric wrote: »
    Shazah wrote: »
    Not a surprise sadly. And it's quite bad to make en event like that locked behind a pay wall (paying a dlc + chapter), but not bad at all from a marketing view and making more profits. :/

    News flash: the entire game is locked behind a paywall.

    Irrevelant, the topic here is the mid year event, not the game base.

    The only reason it is irrelevant is because it doesn't fit your narrative. The simple fact of the matter is as stated by the comment below yours: if you don't buy the content you don't get to do the content.

    This event has stuff in base game, stuff in Morrowind expansion. If you didn't get Morrowind you are not entitled to that portion of the content.

    Throwing "paywall" around means nothing.

    Okay, let me explain why your your answer is irrevelant (still). And there is nothing to see with my narrative or I don't know what.

    it's quite simple, in comparison to previous and similars events (I mean events wich are not celebrating dlc anniversary) like witches festival or ESO 2nd and third anniversary, it's the first time some parts are locked and require to buy a chapter and a dlc. I'm talking about general events like this one who are not a part of dlc. So, is that normal to you and acceptable, being forced tp buy a chapter and another dlc if you want to complete this event at 100%? Thus, the event has some parts locked behind another paywall (purchase of dlc).
    That's my point.
    And it's a bad move from zenimax and it will make a lot of players mad about this.
    In my opinion put some parts in morrowind and imperial city (just a tricky move from them for trying to get more sales) was not necessary for the first pvp event.

    It's normal and it's fine.

    The players who get mad are irrelevant to ZOS anyway since they don't spend money on the game.

    Ive spent hundreds of dollars on this game. I bought it at release on console for $100 and have continued to sub intermittently and buy crown packs from time to time over 2 years. This isnt my first MMO and typically seasonals are base game only. They are a fun little distraction not a marketing ploy.

    All achievements related to Dlc or "Chapters" should be specific to chapters only. Id like to buy morrowind when I feel like it. And I will, I shouldnt have to buy it to get a PVP achievement or reward.

    My 2 cents

    But Morrowind HAS PvP in it. While I don't actually approve of BGs being locked behind a paywall as a whole(I think it's bad for the BGs in the long run since they rely so heavily on having people available for matches at all times), since they are, it actually makes sense to include them in a PvP event. Heck if I were an active BG player(which I'm not) I'd actually be really...upset if the PvP content that I prefer and have paid for is NOT included in a PvP event.
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    Considering the even is promoting all areas of PvP it makes sense that IC and Morrowind are included. Why ignore two thirds of PvP.
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    The_Duke wrote: »
    In my opinion seasonal events should be for everyone. You shouldn't have to buy a "chapter" to get all achievements. Basically I now have to buy morrowind in order to get this.

    Pretty crappy way to market DLCs sorry..."chapters" in my opinion.

    Thank you! Lol I couldn't agree more. It's really stupid, a lot will be left out with this event, it's unfair. I don't care if you still get rewards from just doing PVP mode.. It's still the principle that it's supposedly going to be a "Special Holiday Event" yet not all can play and achieve. This by far is the dumbest and most unfair event ever.

    Most who argue over the fact that people who don't own both DLC and Chapter shouldn't be catered to..only because they own both, and honestly that's just not right. Unfair argument right there. It's a Holiday Event, EVERYONE should be able to play and achieve all the trophies and rewards, just like the rest.

    Why would people want to go and pay $30 to upgrade or even pay full price for Morrowind when it's still bugged and the Battlegrounds required for it doesn't work right...On top of that this event is only going to run for about 11 days...just really kind of lame to spend that kind of money for two achievements. This by far is the most expensive event ever, and most unfair...Really disappointed in this event, don't even think i'll be participating, even if you still get rewards for doing certain things..it's the principle of why start something if you can't finish? -_-
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    Much entitlement
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