Nerf Tremorscale??? ** POLL **

Shadzilla

Only top 5 most hated proc set that did not see a nerf... Should it be nerfed? Elaborate.

Aliyavana

YES

You can't taunt players

akredon_ESO

NO

Termor Scale its self isnt OP... its more when it was teamed up with 20 other direct damage skills did it cause issues.

Solariken

YES

The damage is fine but that snare is savage. I would be happy if the snare were reduced to a more normal 30% and only a 4 second duration.

Brutusmax1mus

NO

It was already nerfed. cast shuffle, cleanse, purge, stun and pressure.

Or are you complaining about its damage??

Strider_Roshin

YES

And Skoria.

LegacyDM

YES

Tremorscale? Why does a sword and board get crazy burst in pvp using tremor scale? Invasion--->bash---->ransack--->tremor--->bash--->reverberating bash = gg. Sword and board tanks in pvp should not be capable of this kind of burst for an instant I win combo. Now add DK, templar, or even sorc skills on top of that with their damage output and you have a crazy dps tank.

maxjapank

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

And Skoria.

On an agenda again I see. Skoria has a delayed attack and a visual / sound warning. The burst is not over the top either.

Brutusmax1mus

NO

LegacyDM wrote: »

Tremorscale? Why does a sword and board get crazy burst in pvp using tremor scale? Invasion--->bash---->ransack--->tremor--->bash--->reverberating bash = gg. Sword and board tanks in pvp should not be capable of this kind of burst for an instant I win combo. Now add DK, templar, or even sorc skills on top of that with their damage output and you have a crazy dps tank.

Just bc they have a shield doesn't make them a tank. I have a medium snb build, I'm not a tank.

Rohamad_Ali

YES

I own Tremorscale and I have no issues with proc set nerfs .

O_LYKOS

Another nerf? good lord. when will it ever stop

Onefrkncrzypope

NO

It's half the damage of veli and selenes and skoria... And it was nerfed two patches in a row

madchuska83

Well, I'm building a DK for my first real PvP toon, at least now I know what to farm.

Smmokkee

YES

maxjapank wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

And Skoria.

On an agenda again I see. Skoria has a delayed attack and a visual / sound warning. The burst is not over the top either.

I cant remeber the last time I heard the sound or visual warning lol.

ewhite106b16_ESO

NO

LegacyDM wrote: »

Tremorscale? Why does a sword and board get crazy burst in pvp using tremor scale? Invasion--->bash---->ransack--->tremor--->bash--->reverberating bash = gg. Sword and board tanks in pvp should not be capable of this kind of burst for an instant I win combo. Now add DK, templar, or even sorc skills on top of that with their damage output and you have a crazy dps tank.

This isn't an instant "I win" combo, and tremorscale already got nerfed really hard previously. Your "I win" example is missing a very key component which is another proc set (usually viper) - that's where the real problem lies and it's something ZOS is addressing in the next patch. Also there is the vanguard's challenge set that came out in Morrowind that's based around taunting players, so it's a legit intended mechanic.

Alucardo

YES

Solariken wrote: »

The damage is fine but that snare is savage. I would be happy if the snare were reduced to a more normal 30% and only a 4 second duration.

Basically this

WuffyCerulei

YES

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

It was already nerfed. cast shuffle, cleanse, purge, stun and pressure.

Or are you complaining about its damage??

Yes. To both. Also a lot of people aren't stam or templars, and purge is effin expensive.

Komputerheld

NO

No nerf pls! Tremorscale is fine, only little damage but a snare... just break free. So thats okay. Better take a look at the socrcs and these mega-destro-ultis-zergs

Rahotu

couldn't they just make taunt only proc if the target can be taunted? bye bye pvp complaints

Lord_Eomer

NO

If nerf then kindly remove this set from game!

Or change how damage work wih this set and buff damage

Komputerheld

NO

Rahotu wrote: »

couldn't they just make taunt only proc if the target can be taunted? bye bye pvp complaints

No, because it would be completly useless in PvP. And why should one monsterset be made useless, when others still work?

But why not taunt players? When taunted, they have to attack you automatically with light attacks for some time

Rahotu

I have to agree I guess,being there are no other monster sets anyone has ever called 'completely useless' in pvp,so heaven forbid I created the 1st

LegendaryMage

Am I the only one who seems to be under the impression that players are generally getting completely used to having a bunch of proc sets in the game, and can't possibly imagine PVP without these? This is worrisome...

Vapirko

NO

maxjapank wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

And Skoria.

On an agenda again I see. Skoria has a delayed attack and a visual / sound warning. The burst is not over the top either.

Yeah good luck with all that showing up in the lag fest that is pvp. I've dodge rolled away from skoria and still been hit with it multiple times. The cues are not reliable and hence why I also don't think the current slenes alteration in patch notes is any good.

Wing

NO

first, the "you cannot taunt players" yes you can there are now pvp sets based around the idea, so no argument there.

seconds, the damage is mediocre compared to almost every other proc set and has already been nerfed.

third the snare utility is fine (and also has already been nerfed) if you don't know how to deal with snares then nerfing a single set wont help you, there are many ways available to all classes, builds, and playstyles, to remove snares and almost all of them are critical to PvP regardless.


The problem with proc sets has mostly been about the ability to stack multiple sets at the same time, viper alone is not bad, a monster proc alone is not the end, oblivion damage alone is not a problem, red mountain alone is not an issue.

its the combination of people wearing selene / veli / tremor / etc/ + viper + red mountain + oblivion enchant + high damage skill of choice that is overwhelmingly front loaded to the point of broken.

where all al these tremor users btw? I'm on prime time in the front lines surfing the puggy zergs and the only proc I tend to recall getting hit with often is selene from the NB brave enough to try to 100 to 0 me? if I do get snared and am in a position where I need to get out I cast shuffle along with a few other skills and roll and run out (heavy armor DK btw, so not sprinting fast and the most immobile class in the game)

in what situation are people getting annihilated by tremmorscale? please enlighten me.

anathosdm

Nerf tremor AND selene and make direct dmg proc sets not stackable. Then remove the change to viper

Rohamad_Ali

YES

Wing wrote: »

first, the "you cannot taunt players" yes you can there are now pvp sets based around the idea, so no argument there.

seconds, the damage is mediocre compared to almost every other proc set and has already been nerfed.

third the snare utility is fine (and also has already been nerfed) if you don't know how to deal with snares then nerfing a single set wont help you, there are many ways available to all classes, builds, and playstyles, to remove snares and almost all of them are critical to PvP regardless.


The problem with proc sets has mostly been about the ability to stack multiple sets at the same time, viper alone is not bad, a monster proc alone is not the end, oblivion damage alone is not a problem, red mountain alone is not an issue.

its the combination of people wearing selene / veli / tremor / etc/ + viper + red mountain + oblivion enchant + high damage skill of choice that is overwhelmingly front loaded to the point of broken.

where all al these tremor users btw? I'm on prime time in the front lines surfing the puggy zergs and the only proc I tend to recall getting hit with often is selene from the NB brave enough to try to 100 to 0 me? if I do get snared and am in a position where I need to get out I cast shuffle along with a few other skills and roll and run out (heavy armor DK btw, so not sprinting fast and the most immobile class in the game)

in what situation are people getting annihilated by tremmorscale? please enlighten me.

Think I located your safety source .

Iyas

YES

aliyavana wrote: »

You can't taunt players

DeHei

NO

The set isnt OP. Its a strong set like Valkyn Skoria, but the snare does not be very effective. Most times you have allready a snare on you or you stay in a track or something other..

Feanor

YES

There are already too many snares in the game. Who thought that a 50% proc chance, decent damage and a 70% snare for 8 seconds on a 4 second CD was a brilliant idea? If you exchange the values - 8 second CD and 4 second snare - it would be more bearable. I'd rather see a lot of snares removed from the game though.

Crom_CCCXVI

Why do people answer questions when they clearly don't know the answer?

Tremorscale procs on players from-
- Pierce Armor, Ransack
- A frost staff heavy attack
- Inner Fire and it's morphs


and as for "too many snares"...
It doesn't matter if there are a 1000 snares in the game, in PvP most of the time people have CC immunity anyway, at least every 7 seconds at a minimum. If someone wants to waste it on a "snare" as opposed to a hard knockdown you should feel fortunate