PTS Update 15 - Feedback Thread for Chaosball & Arcane University

ZOS_GinaBruno

This is the official feedback thread for Chaosball and the new Arcane University map. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:

• Did you have fun playing this new game mode?
• How many games did you play?
• Did you enjoy the new map?
• Was the portal mechanic in the map easy to understand?
• Do you have any other general feedback?

Antirob

General feedback:

Still need a team vs team option. 4v4 or 5v5.

Also having a custom game option where you can set rules, team size, number of teams, sigil/no sigil, etc would be awesome. This addition should be easy to add.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Hey everyone, just in case you aren't aware, Chaosball is currently the only game mode active on PTS so we can get everyone in there and testing this new game. Give it a try this weekend and let us know what you think!

wildbear247

Instead of Chaosball, I'd like to have what @Antirob suggested...a team vs. team matchup (e.g. 5v5, 6v6, etc.), which is something that's continually been brought up in the forums. When we get Battlegrounds content like this Chaosball, it probably leaves quite a few of us scratching our heads wondering how you decided Chaosball was a more important aspect of Battlegrounds to work on...versus well all the ideas posted in the thread below.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/349053/battlegrounds-bugs-and-lack-of-features-still-no-response-from-zos-updated-6-11/p1
And I know the OP in that thread was a little salty, but he also listed most of the points that PvP'rs would like to see addressed in the Battlegrounds.

Overall ZOS I really wish you had fully engaged the PvP crowd during Battlegrounds development. I think we'd have a much better Battlegrounds experience now if you had done so. Now that Battlegrounds are out, here I am again with my fingers crossed posting & hoping you really try to engage us PvP'rs (all of us, not just on forums or streamers) to make Battlegrounds better. Communicate with us (surveys, polls, emails, etc.)...ask us what features we'd like to see added. We know you can't do it all, or a whole bunch at once...for now better communication and a few QoL updates based on player feedback would be awesome.

Auldjohn

Just created a CP 160 Ebonheart Pact Lore-derived Dunmer Warden. He's just arrived in Stonefalls, starting the Tutorial territory. When he emerges his next adventure is Chaosball.

Enodoc

wildbear247 wrote: »

Instead of Chaosball, I'd like to have what Antirob suggested...a team vs. team matchup (e.g. 5v5, 6v6, etc.), which is something that's continually been brought up in the forums.

I don't see how that makes sense in the three-sided 4v4v4 setup that ESO's battlegrounds are based on. 4v4v4 is the basis that every new game mode has to be built around.

MopeyHat

Enodoc wrote: »

wildbear247 wrote: »

Instead of Chaosball, I'd like to have what Antirob suggested...a team vs. team matchup (e.g. 5v5, 6v6, etc.), which is something that's continually been brought up in the forums.

I don't see how that makes sense in the three-sided 4v4v4 setup that ESO's battlegrounds are based on. 4v4v4 is the basis that every new game mode has to be built around.

But if we break it down a bit, a two team game is just a subset of three teams. Actually creating the instance and UI with two teams isn't unimaginable; but it would inevitably wreck the queuing system (again).

Personally I'd really just like a way to manually do matchmaking outside of a queue so you can pitch guild vs guild fights, for instance.

gootdude

Terrible, quit trying to force 3 teams.

It blows my mind that ZOS figured out a way to make instanced PVP no fun.

In your quest to be "different" all you're doing is picking the features that most games were smart enough to avoid.

wildbear247

Enodoc wrote: »

wildbear247 wrote: »

Instead of Chaosball, I'd like to have what Antirob suggested...a team vs. team matchup (e.g. 5v5, 6v6, etc.), which is something that's continually been brought up in the forums.

I don't see how that makes sense in the three-sided 4v4v4 setup that ESO's battlegrounds are based on. 4v4v4 is the basis that every new game mode has to be built around.

@Enodoc

ZOS created the problem because they didn't communicate well with players throughout Battlegrounds development. They can address that now, & if they determine there is really strong player support for a 6v6 mode...they can make it happen if they want. The Battlegrounds accommodate 12 players via 4v4v4...so existing assets can be reworked to support 6v6.

It's not good business to not have a good understanding of what your players want...so I don't understand why ZOS would add Chaosball or any other major Battlegrounds feature without talking with their players first.

Agalloch

We must have an option to choose which kind of battleground to play.

CavalryPK

frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »

We must have an option to choose which kind of battleground to play.

Agreed . That way no one will ever play CTR

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hi everyone,

Just a friendly reminder that we could really use your help with testing and feedback on the new game mode (Chaosball) and map (Arcane University.) If you have general feedback and suggestions about Battlegrounds, please head on over to this forum section and post it there.

Cinbri

40 min of que and no even ready check.. Seems NA not really interested in testing it.

Gilliamtherogue

Queuing on the PTS is almost a lost cause due to the smaller player size and spread out log in times. Perhaps holding a dev event where the PvPteam (or anyone else there really) will be active on the PTS to also queue with players would incentivize testing? That way you could also witness a lot of the interactions first hand I think it would be awesome if there was an event like that, and could get a lot of attention.

br0steen

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

Queuing on the PTS is almost a lost cause due to the smaller player size and spread out log in times. Perhaps holding a dev event where the PvPteam (or anyone else there really) will be active on the PTS to also queue with players would incentivize testing? That way you could also witness a lot of the interactions first hand I think it would be awesome if there was an event like that, and could get a lot of attention.

I play on console but if this happened I would go buy a gaming pc, buy eso for pc, download the pts, and partake in such an event. Just saying.

Rex-Umbra

Battlegrounds are best 4v4v4

Moloch1514

I think the lack of feedback speaks volumes about the state of Battlegrounds.

Hoked_on_ponix

Its too late, 2 months of not being able to queue has completely killed any excitement for BGs. Still not fixed on consoles by the way. PVP is on life support in this game, ffs more people stream the elder scrolls card game than this non functioning game.

Falhael

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

Just a friendly reminder that we could really use your help with testing and feedback on the new game mode (Chaosball) and map (Arcane University.) If you have general feedback and suggestions about Battlegrounds, please head on over to this forum section and post it there.

I would have liked to try, but I haven't been able to get in. Queued multiple times at different times of the day but I haven't even gotten a single ready check. And after 20mins and more waiting time, I gave up.

Maybe some kind of PTS event that includes some real player developer interaction could spark people's interest. But the queuing fiasco on live was enough. We've wasted too much time in queues. Noone has much patience for that left.

bubbygink

Not sure it matters how great chaosball or the new map is since we are unable to group queue in on live anyway thanks to the broken queue...

Agalloch

bubbygink wrote: »

Not sure it matters how great chaosball or the new map is since we are unable to group queue in on live anyway thanks to the broken queue...

Or maybe nobody wants to play ChaosBall.

Instead of making another type of battleground , Devs must focus in fixing broken queue and other bugs.

Scyantific

One thing right off the bat: Make it so we can pass the ball.

SanTii.92

I tried to queue for quite some time with no success. Maybe you could host some kind of event Zos.

Sandman929

Is there any chance we could get Big-Head-Mode where all the character have enormous heads like in NBA Jam!....just thinking out loud since that seems to be the direction of this Battlegrounds nonsense where you can't have custom matches to really test out group builds for PvP.
Or maybe a Sigil that turns the opponents into monkeys briefly! Can you imagine the hilarity?!

Waffennacht

Sandman929 wrote: »

Is there any chance we could get Big-Head-Mode where all the character have enormous heads like in NBA Jam!....just thinking out loud since that seems to be the direction of this Battlegrounds nonsense where you can't have custom matches to really test out group builds for PvP.
Or maybe a Sigil that turns the opponents into monkeys briefly! Can you imagine the hilarity?!

Turok? Where do I know that monkey thing from?

I came here to learn about chaos ball, seems no one can play

theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO

queued for 30 minutes with no joy.

Ashamray

Why no CP Battlegrounds, @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
This game is built around CP, and I just can't understand why we don't have an option.

Mojomonkeyman

Feedback Arcane University (tested on live):

Instantly became my favorite map. It's wide enough to allow for spread out fights with lots of LOS while still maintaining a strong focus on the central hall. Played Domination and Detahmatch on it and it was beautiful. I really like that it is more of a battleground layout and less of an arena. The first three battlegrounds feel sometimes too small and make it too easy to just ball up.

Brilliant job, I'm sure there is some finetuning that can be done (portal timings and placement), but so far I'm 100% positive about this map.

kynseon

I havent tested Arcane University. But ive tried Chaos Ball, to be honest its an okay idea but with poor execution. When you have pre made teams who are tanky as hell it makes it difficult for those who are just queuing up. There are people running full heal and tank builds who are impossible to kill, even with the chaos ball.

Garwulf

most of the People I play with have left ESO bored with PVP which essentially has not changed since the game began years ago. They are not interested in 4 v 4 v 4 me bro battle grounds. Must admit when I get one character to PVP level 50 I will probably be off as well. The only thing in PVP I haven't got. When you have to play with a 300 plus ping against animation cancelling low ping players that ZoS loves, it is not really 'entertainment,. Almost a chore. Only rapidly leaving friends keep me here. Not interested in mini battle grounds so why bother testing.

Really juat waiting on a better mmo to play. Must be desperate, I even play BDO... for some Interest.

maxlacab16_ESO

Maybe fix issues like Grouping Tool first?

I posted this a long while ago: scrap the whole thing and write a new one, or better, buy one from another company that knows how to code a grouping tool!

Or fix other HUGE problems in PVP (Cyrodiil)...

LOADING SCREENS during gameplay, after resurrecting, taking transitus, etc.
DISCONNECTS randomly, during combat, while riding, during transit, after said LOADING SCREEN...
LAG...yea!

And so many other issues that are voiced by us players in the forums!

The restrictions on BG make this a no-fun thing: no choice of instance, no choice in XvX, no choices at all.