Do you want the new DLC dungeons coming up in August to be easy or hard?

Tandor

Other

I'm not interested in the dungeon DLCs.

josiahva

Harder like vet trials!

Drummerx04 wrote: »

I'd like it to be maybe a little harder than SOTH. As it stands I enjoy having my group that can demolish those dungeons. It's really satisfying... also the guaranteed high value motif drop is nothing to scoff at either (hint hint zos, more skill based motif drops would be nice, no more of this 1 in 300 drop chance from random chests).

The only mechanics I do not really like is anything that randomly targets a player and renders them more or less useless (like the sap) and any mechanic that unavoidably and quickly drains resources like the totems in vRoM. One shot mechanics/aoe that I have to dodge or avoid is kind of fun, running around with heavy attack being my only available action is lame.

The totem is just a DPS test. As for it not being avoidable...thats not entirely true. It tethers and drains the closest person first, then the next closest, etc. If the tank is closest the totem isnt a problem at all, or if the tank has warhorn slotted, that helps as well. You can avoid being tethered technically if you are far enough away from the totem, it wont tether you until you get close enough....but if you are already tethered you can never get far enough away to break the tether. The hist sap is an annoying mechanic, but its one that just takes you out of action for only a few seconds, not that big a deal.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Veteran ROM and COS I think struck a pretty good balance of difficulty on HM. A little harder wouldnt bother me, but I dont think I could handle the forum rage if it much more than that.

The current state of ICP and WGT is too easy IMO.

Meld777

Other

I want them to be impossible. At least the same as vICP/vWGT were when they came out. Better if they were the same as when vMoL came out. First clear should be a month into launch.

But yeah, dreams... The dungeons are gonna be facerolled by 4 DDs 30 min into launch on PTS and stay like that for live launch.

Destyran

Easier

I want a medium between face roll and mazzatun

Because there is no inbetween on this game.
Most players face roll content then go into these dungeons and get rekt. They nerfed wgt and icp too much they would of been a great medium. But this game is pretty much two difficulties
Maelstrom normal
Vet maelstrom

Needs to be changed. Amp it up slowly.

Strider_Roshin

Harder like vet trials!

Harder in terms of mechanics, and not so much health bar.

Wifeaggro13

Harder like vet trials!

Destyran wrote: »

I want a medium between face roll and mazzatun

Because there is no inbetween on this game.
Most players face roll content then go into these dungeons and get rekt. They nerfed wgt and icp too much they would of been a great medium. But this game is pretty much two difficulties
Maelstrom normal
Vet maelstrom

Needs to be changed. Amp it up slowly.

Then making the new stuff less harder then mazz is not the answer rescaling old ones is

Rox83

Other

Tyrion87 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

If someone wants "easy and enjoyable" dungeons, just do the normal mode for the gods sake!

Vet is meant to be hard.

I have enough of having like 15+ vet dungeons in the game (vanilla ones) that are almost no different compared to their normal modes, while nothing remains of vWGT and vICP but the dead shadows of their former glory.

Only vCoS and vRoM are still somewhat challenging and fun.

Yes, but if you are pugging it's a real nightmare.

Not all veteran dungeons are meant to be pug-able. Just as I said, you already have 15+ pug-friendly vet dungeons in the game while experienced players have only 2 dungeons that remain interesting and challenging to them.

Then they should remove them from LFG or at least the random selection of LFG

Toc de Malsvi

Harder like vet trials!

Cage_Lizardman wrote: »

Preferably somewhere near CoS, ICP or WGT. RoM is too annoying. Sneaking through half the dungeon is not fun.

I never liked Culling of Stratholme...

Shawn_PT

They're making them hard as vCoS and vRoM, at the same time they nerf the hell out of CoS and RoM. Veli helms and skins for everyone! Cheap motifs as well!

That will probably encourage more people to go and buy the SotH DLC too.

abigfishy

Same

Same overall difficulty but less trash, less dps checks and more mechanics and fights that require skill rather than just op stats. To me an idea dungeon would be one where a skillful cp160 can clear but a drone who ground his way to cp630 in Skyreach would find impossible. Currently the dlc dungeons are the opposite.

inf.toniceb17_ESO

No preference

Don't really care. They can be puggable and easy to farm or they can be like vRoM and vCoS so i'll have to find 3 patient ppl to to do speed run, no death and hm with and i'll never bother to do these dungeons again. I guess in both cases i'll be playing those dungeons for a month tops. Honestly i'm more excited about cosmetic unlocks that these dungeons prolly gonna have than about dungeons themselves I only hope that there will be no random stuff like doors in vCoS hm or (especially) statues in vRoM hm. Those so called mechanics are just a bad game design.

leeux

Other

I'd prefer them difficult, but due to interesting mechanics, and less gimmicky cheap one shot attacks... and yes, less trash... or maybe more, but easier to kill. High HP trash is annoying to fight and specially if enrage timers are present...

All in all, I'll be happy with less DPS races in my dungeons, please.

zaria

Rox83 wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

If someone wants "easy and enjoyable" dungeons, just do the normal mode for the gods sake!

Vet is meant to be hard.

I have enough of having like 15+ vet dungeons in the game (vanilla ones) that are almost no different compared to their normal modes, while nothing remains of vWGT and vICP but the dead shadows of their former glory.

Only vCoS and vRoM are still somewhat challenging and fun.

Yes, but if you are pugging it's a real nightmare.

Not all veteran dungeons are meant to be pug-able. Just as I said, you already have 15+ pug-friendly vet dungeons in the game while experienced players have only 2 dungeons that remain interesting and challenging to them.

Then they should remove them from LFG or at least the random selection of LFG

Yes, or have an separate tab for them. Worst is the normal DLC dungeons with no level requirements so a level 10 get Wayrest sewer 1 and some other easy dungeons, then ROM and IPC who is almost as hard as veteran wayrest 1.

Tasear

No preference

Solariken wrote: »

Hard but short. The only thing I hate about the newer dungeons is how gruelingly long they are. Nobody wants to fight through 50 mile-long hallways of trash mobs @ZOS_Finn

Now selling invisblity potions at inflated prices

ViscousSummer88

Same

Only want harder if it's actually mechanics based... not just more health because that's no fun. I don't want the same mechanics we already see over used either.

Artis

Harder

josiahva wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

I'd like it to be maybe a little harder than SOTH. As it stands I enjoy having my group that can demolish those dungeons. It's really satisfying... also the guaranteed high value motif drop is nothing to scoff at either (hint hint zos, more skill based motif drops would be nice, no more of this 1 in 300 drop chance from random chests).

The only mechanics I do not really like is anything that randomly targets a player and renders them more or less useless (like the sap) and any mechanic that unavoidably and quickly drains resources like the totems in vRoM. One shot mechanics/aoe that I have to dodge or avoid is kind of fun, running around with heavy attack being my only available action is lame.

The totem is just a DPS test. As for it not being avoidable...thats not entirely true. It tethers and drains the closest person first, then the next closest, etc. If the tank is closest the totem isnt a problem at all, or if the tank has warhorn slotted, that helps as well. You can avoid being tethered technically if you are far enough away from the totem, it wont tether you until you get close enough....but if you are already tethered you can never get far enough away to break the tether. The hist sap is an annoying mechanic, but its one that just takes you out of action for only a few seconds, not that big a deal.

It's not a dps test, it's a test of the group's ability to stack, so the totem spawns by the boss in aoes and dies fast due to cleave damage. Yeah it drains the closest person, but it spawns on a furthest person from the boss, which is rarely a tank.

Either way, totem is fine but sap is dumb. That's some stupid RNG, especially if a healer gets it.

MattT1988

Same

On par with the Hist dungeons please.

Juhasow

Harder

But not too much RNG based mechanics that can ruin run in a moment in the name of lord Rngesus.

kargen27

Going off on a tangent but someone mentioned a dungeon not taking long if you know how to skip fights. I would like to see no reward at the end if the dungeon isn't completely cleared. Would be nice to have a dungeon that required good mechanics from all three roles

nimander99

Thanks @josiahva ! I had no clue, I can do this... Time consuming like you said but I can handle it. Thanks again for the heads up.

Heroeric1337

Other

I dont mind harder, I just want there to be an option to exclude DLC content from group finder when im playing a character whos build im testing or just isnt met for the harder content at that time so nobody end's up having to carry me.

ofSunhold

No preference

Dynamic and unpredictable would be interesting. People say "harder" and we get bosses with doubled health. That's the opposite of interesting, or fun.

But w/e. I'm feeling fatalistic about this particular update.

KhajiitLion

Harder

As hard as bloodborne

Orjix

No preference

i bought the ruins of Mazzatun (spelling?) when it first came out, and last week i finally did my first run through one of the dungeons (havent even seen the interior of the other) so i dont care.

ProfesseurFreder

Other

It seems to me that with Instancing it would be very possible to create both group and solo versions of the same dungeons / dlc. I sure wish that they would, because both HIST and REACH look really fun and interesting. But not being able to do them solo is a deal-breaker for me. I may be in the minority on this, but I suspect that I'm not entirely alone.

Can't cry too much, because we just got Morrowind, and in no way am I running out of solo content yet -- so if they're going to issue group-only content, the time for it is ripe right now. But the Clockwork City had very damn better be do-able by solo players. Just sayin'.

VvardeFellow

akl77 wrote: »

Compares to vet Mazzatun or ICP.

Easier than what? Most folks play solo most of the time, so going with that I would say regular and public need to be somewhat harder compared to what they are now, and as for the rest I can't say.

Tasear

No preference

Depends what helms are in there

Myyth

Easy and enjoyable

Leave the hard content to trials. Dungeons should be easy to do in a random group.

soll

Harder like vet trials!

As hard as possible!
I don't do vet trials, but I really enjoy all 4 man content with my group, so I would love some new challenge

however, ZOS said on ESO-Live that it's going to be less hard than Hist, so...