True white dye for cloth

asa67dragoneb17_ESO

Anyone found a true " white " color to use on cloth/leather armors? I spend alot of time, trying colors, but everything is too " grayish " or even yellowish.
I know, that some armors show same dye a bit differently.So I`m gonna say from the start, I`m searching dye for Mercenary motif.

P.S. This conquest of the " ideal " colors, destroys me mentally. We need option to preview them...srsly.

nikigwil

Julianos white is normally pretty white but depends entirely on what you are dying.

Lieblingsjunge

Julianos' White & Llamae's white(?? the one you get from Vampirism lv10).
Palatine white is also kinda cool - but it's a bit more "creamy" if I remember correctly.

MercTheMage

Julianos is from one of the trials, nAA iirc
But yeah, its whiter than lamae

asa67dragoneb17_ESO

Well Julianos will be hard to test...damn triels, I wanted to avoid them completely...so you can insert here heroic voice with " You`re not prepared ".
Well, I guess only Lamoe left for me, need to get my vamp alt to rank 10 then, and hope about that color working properly.
If anyone tested colors on Merc motifs, would nice to hear from you people

newtinmpls

White on merc... that's a switch. My hubby prefers light merc as a uniform of sorts for most of his characters and mostly dyes it black (usually coldharbour black) with either grey/metallic or occasionally a gold/metallic for some of the fittings.

Looks really good.

asa67dragoneb17_ESO

newtinmpls wrote: »

White on merc... that's a switch. My hubby prefers light merc as a uniform of sorts for most of his characters and mostly dyes it black (usually coldharbour black) with either grey/metallic or occasionally a gold/metallic for some of the fittings.

Looks really good.

My idea was to use true white + dark black. With silver metal parts. In my head it looks good, dunno how it will be in reality XD
Plus, this way some monster helm sets, would look " tolerated ".

Earrindo

Lamae's and Julianos are both very white, however the specular map for both is a sort of shimmery blue, so on leather, or cloth with a specular map (Daedric Light legs for example) there will be a blueish shimmer. On Leather it looks ok, but on cloth it looks a bit plastic wrappy.
Be aware though that on leather, it looks like blue and white, not just white, and on some leather it doesnt even go white, but more a light tan with lighter highlights and the blue sheen.

The whitest matte white is Birch White, from deconstructing stuff, iirc, and while more on the creamy side, it has no specular color, so is just a flat white.

In order of whiteness, Julianos, on a matte surface, is by far and away the whitest white. Lamaes is the second whitest white and birch white is the third whitest white. Again, all on matte surfaces.
Birch white would make the best platinum/white gold/silver metal, as it has no secondary color specular. However lamaes and julianos whites on metal have a sort of blue shimmer to them that looks quite magical, if a bit stark (somehow they seem to up the contrast on metal, probably due to the blue/white combo on low/high points respectively)

The problematic armors I have found for dying white are as follows:
leather elements of glass armor
leather elements of silken ring armor
cloth elements of daedric armor
cloth elements of ebony armor
debatably leather elements of ebony armor (the blue/white is much MUCH more pronounced, which looks cool but isnt really white)
leather elements of Hircines Veneer armor

the best armors to dye period are the blue racial motifs. They tend to take dye really well and clearly, I suppose to make up for their lacking overall design. The only exception to this is bosmeri stuff, its mainly leather and instead of dying separate leather pieces, theres a kind of gradient that doesnt dye well as one of them has high specular, the other has low, so it tends to look off with light colors.

I realize thats a bit of a wall of text, but I was quite obsessed with white dyes for a while and whenever people ask about them, I feel it may be useful to share the fruits of my research.

TL:DR
Lamaes is nearly as white as Julianos and will suffice for most needs, but Julianos is noticeably whiter.

Tasear

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Well Julianos will be hard to test...damn triels, I wanted to avoid them completely...so you can insert here heroic voice with " You`re not prepared ".
Well, I guess only Lamoe left for me, need to get my vamp alt to rank 10 then, and hope about that color working properly.
If anyone tested colors on Merc motifs, would nice to hear from you people

You can probably be carried
If you are PC NA I will assist holy fasion mission. Though normal trials are super easy ...talking easier than banished cells 1.Either way here to help if needed.


Edit
@Tasear PC NA

Vaoh

Well lets see......

• Julianos White is the very brightest white with a bluish tint

• Palatine White is the very brightest white with a brown/tan tint

Immaculate White is the brightest white in ESO, and has no tint.... but is also Crown Store exclusive, requiring you to buy Dye Stamps costing 200 Crowns each during the event going on right now. It will only be placeable on your second costume dye slot only.

Hope that helped.

asa67dragoneb17_ESO

Tasear wrote: »

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Well Julianos will be hard to test...damn triels, I wanted to avoid them completely...so you can insert here heroic voice with " You`re not prepared ".
Well, I guess only Lamoe left for me, need to get my vamp alt to rank 10 then, and hope about that color working properly.
If anyone tested colors on Merc motifs, would nice to hear from you people

You can probably be carried
If you are PC NA I will assist holy fasion mission. Though normal trials are super easy ...talking easier than banished cells 1.Either way here to help if needed.


Edit
@Tasear PC NA

Thanks, but I`m on EU server =c

DRXHarbinger

Get it done properly scrubs and get your Liars Linens on.

Tasear

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Well Julianos will be hard to test...damn triels, I wanted to avoid them completely...so you can insert here heroic voice with " You`re not prepared ".
Well, I guess only Lamoe left for me, need to get my vamp alt to rank 10 then, and hope about that color working properly.
If anyone tested colors on Merc motifs, would nice to hear from you people

You can probably be carried
If you are PC NA I will assist holy fasion mission. Though normal trials are super easy ...talking easier than banished cells 1.Either way here to help if needed.


Edit
@Tasear PC NA

Thanks, but I`m on EU server =c

Awe

Banana

Crown store has one at the moment

Tasear

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Well Julianos will be hard to test...damn triels, I wanted to avoid them completely...so you can insert here heroic voice with " You`re not prepared ".
Well, I guess only Lamoe left for me, need to get my vamp alt to rank 10 then, and hope about that color working properly.
If anyone tested colors on Merc motifs, would nice to hear from you people

You can probably be carried
If you are PC NA I will assist holy fasion mission. Though normal trials are super easy ...talking easier than banished cells 1.Either way here to help if needed.


Edit
@Tasear PC NA

Thanks, but I`m on EU server =c

Try looking for group or trial forum or ask in trial thread that is on going in general. I an sure some EU member can assist in holy fashion mission. Good luck and don't give up

Insomnia rex

Earrindo wrote: »

Lamae's and Julianos are both very white, however the specular map for both is a sort of shimmery blue, so on leather, or cloth with a specular map (Daedric Light legs for example) there will be a blueish shimmer. On Leather it looks ok, but on cloth it looks a bit plastic wrappy.
Be aware though that on leather, it looks like blue and white, not just white, and on some leather it doesnt even go white, but more a light tan with lighter highlights and the blue sheen.

The whitest matte white is Birch White, from deconstructing stuff, iirc, and while more on the creamy side, it has no specular color, so is just a flat white.

In order of whiteness, Julianos, on a matte surface, is by far and away the whitest white. Lamaes is the second whitest white and birch white is the third whitest white. Again, all on matte surfaces.
Birch white would make the best platinum/white gold/silver metal, as it has no secondary color specular. However lamaes and julianos whites on metal have a sort of blue shimmer to them that looks quite magical, if a bit stark (somehow they seem to up the contrast on metal, probably due to the blue/white combo on low/high points respectively)

The problematic armors I have found for dying white are as follows:
leather elements of glass armor
leather elements of silken ring armor
cloth elements of daedric armor
cloth elements of ebony armor
debatably leather elements of ebony armor (the blue/white is much MUCH more pronounced, which looks cool but isnt really white)
leather elements of Hircines Veneer armor

the best armors to dye period are the blue racial motifs. They tend to take dye really well and clearly, I suppose to make up for their lacking overall design. The only exception to this is bosmeri stuff, its mainly leather and instead of dying separate leather pieces, theres a kind of gradient that doesnt dye well as one of them has high specular, the other has low, so it tends to look off with light colors.

I realize thats a bit of a wall of text, but I was quite obsessed with white dyes for a while and whenever people ask about them, I feel it may be useful to share the fruits of my research.

TL:DR
Lamaes is nearly as white as Julianos and will suffice for most needs, but Julianos is noticeably whiter.

Spectacular post @Earrindo. Appreciate your insights.

Tyrobag

Birch white is the pure white

drakhan2002_ESO

Julianos is what I use for white; it's easy to get. nAA should do it...

Incognitius

I had some old Light Mercenary lying in the bank, so let me show you...

This is Mercenary with Julianos White - Coldharbour Black:



This is Mercenary with Lamae White - Coldharbour Black



As you can see Julianos White is the best white there is. Do nAA, you won't regret it.

And as a bonus Julianos White on both pieces.

asa67dragoneb17_ESO

Incognitius wrote: »

I had some old Light Mercenary lying in the bank, so let me show you...

This is Mercenary with Julianos White - Coldharbour Black:



This is Mercenary with Lamae White - Coldharbour Black



As you can see Julianos White is the best white there is. Do nAA, you won't regret it.

And as a bonus Julianos White on both pieces.

Thanks for the test !
Still looks a bit dirty( On the coat I mean, gloves have right color ). But alot better then " white`s " I tried myself. Well..Guess I will have to be a bit more creative in terms of mixing white with something

elijafire

Wait for a good dye stamp that's the only way you are ever going to get real white.

NightbladeMechanics

asa67dragoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Incognitius wrote: »

I had some old Light Mercenary lying in the bank, so let me show you...

This is Mercenary with Julianos White - Coldharbour Black:



This is Mercenary with Lamae White - Coldharbour Black



As you can see Julianos White is the best white there is. Do nAA, you won't regret it.

And as a bonus Julianos White on both pieces.

Thanks for the test !
Still looks a bit dirty( On the coat I mean, gloves have right color ). But alot better then " white`s " I tried myself. Well..Guess I will have to be a bit more creative in terms of mixing white with something

Julianos white is the best white for light mercenary armor. I used that exact combo after testing every white for a long time before switching to the black hand robe in...well...black.

Julianos white is a little beige on the robe portion, but it’s as white as you’ll get on merc gear. You can see it in open combat at the beginning and middle of this very old video to see what looks like in game.

https://youtu.be/rjFc36GIXMU

Anne_Firehawk

Palatinewhite on pieces where julianoswhite looks too blue. You need AR 35 or so tho

starkerealm

Well, here's Julianos White on light Ebony armor:



There is a blue undertone most of the time, but Ebony has some weird ideas about what colors should look like.

idk

There cannot be a true white die. Your screen doesn't display true white. As for getting close, Zos may consider what we have to be the closest they will have in game.

Resfeber

Just wanted to say I love this thread. I enjoy reading about colors and checking out the gear appearances.
Also, didn't realize there were good white dyes stuck in stamps. That actually gives me a reason to consider buying one. (Never thought I'd say that.)

Good stuff from you today, ESO Forums.

starkerealm

Resfeber wrote: »

Just wanted to say I love this thread. I enjoy reading about colors and checking out the gear appearances.
Also, didn't realize there were good white dyes stuck in stamps. That actually gives me a reason to consider buying one. (Never thought I'd say that.)

Good stuff from you today, ESO Forums.

The white dye they're talking about was part of Midyear Mayhem (or 4th of July, I forget which). Normally, stamps do not include unique dyes. The exception is, some of the holiday events have included new dyes, which... I really wish they wouldn't do that. At least unlock those dyes for everyone with the appropriate achievements after the event is over. As is, there's some cool dyes you cannot use on normal armor.

Resfeber

starkerealm wrote: »

The white dye they're talking about was part of Midyear Mayhem (or 4th of July, I forget which). Normally, stamps do not include unique dyes. The exception is, some of the holiday events have included new dyes, which... I really wish they wouldn't do that. At least unlock those dyes for everyone with the appropriate achievements after the event is over. As is, there's some cool dyes you cannot use on normal armor.

Hey, thanks for clearing that up, Starke.
I agree with the sentiment on the fact that it should be unlockable. I'm always for options for earning something yourself. Especially if it's happening around holiday events I'm surprised they don't just make it a part of a holiday achievement.
Still, it's good to know that it's a thing that exists and something I may wanna keep an eye out for.