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Buoyant Armiger drop chance
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lardvader✭✭✭✭✭Not gonna farm any more motifs until the transmog system is in place. I completed all motifs before Morrowind due to better drop rate on master writs...... and we all know how that worked out
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Buffler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Been in Morrowind since release, opened probably 200 chests, got only 1 motif myself. And yes, I run around with Treasure hunter.
Saw someone selling shoulders for no less than 300k, worst thing is, it might actually sell considering how are those motifs are.
Yeah they actually do sell quite high I sold 3 shoulders so far for 275k each and like 5 other ones for nearly 200-250k each
But they have slowed down alot now I have 12 listed atm in total in 2 guild vendors, and not one sold this week yet
What server / platform
NA PC
I thought as much, I haven't seen any in traders on xb1 eu.
Thats because its bugged. The drop rate was bugged on pc but had it patched. We are having it patched next week i believe.0 -
POps75p✭✭✭✭why should they raise it, that's the one that's going to show up in the crown store very soon!0 -
ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Got about as good of odds of winning the powerball as you have of getting this style so they should might as well make it a full book instead of a bunch of chapters."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
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saxgooner✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Been in Morrowind since release, opened probably 200 chests, got only 1 motif myself. And yes, I run around with Treasure hunter.
Saw someone selling shoulders for no less than 300k, worst thing is, it might actually sell considering how are those motifs are.
Yeah they actually do sell quite high I sold 3 shoulders so far for 275k each and like 5 other ones for nearly 200-250k each
But they have slowed down alot now I have 12 listed atm in total in 2 guild vendors, and not one sold this week yet
What server / platform
NA PC
I thought as much, I haven't seen any in traders on xb1 eu.
Thats because its bugged. The drop rate was bugged on pc but had it patched. We are having it patched next week i believe.
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Insomnia rex✭✭✭On EU single pages have dropped continuously by now to just below 200k (from 300 to 500 in the beginning). So my guess is some people by now have set up optimal routes for chest farming, which also explains why some people don't seem to have much luck finding anything but simple/inter chests.. just my thoughts. I won't buy all pages until it stops dropping.Not gonna farm any more motifs until the transmog system is in place. I completed all motifs before Morrowind due to better drop rate on master writs...... and we all know how that worked out
This and the militant ordinator are the only two I am missing. So how else am I going to get my motif fix?
CP630 AR20 PC EU, Alt Mag Sorc AD - Insomnicia Rex1 -
jcaceresw✭✭✭✭✭It's one of the another tricks by ZOS to make money. Drop chances are *** and players who want it will be forced to buy it from crown store soon.
Not gonna buy any crown store motif unless they made it account wide for all my existing and new toons. For the price they charge for them it should be account wide instead of per character.5 -
GDOFWR420✭✭✭✭After several weekends of continuous hunting in morrowind I found the legs. Xbox na. Found on my week old warden. Searched forever on my main after doing the vivec stoyline and nothing.
But my warden came through. Now do I sell em or read em??????
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Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And here I am....
I wanted to have someone craft me a set of Julianos, and of all of the styles in the game to choose from, I chose this one -_-
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Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
@Kyle1983b14_ESO
Can I ask if you have the Treasure Hunter passive on the character(s) that found them? Just curious if Treasure Hunter may actually be decreasing the chances with them as it increases the chance and quality on set items.
Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
Oddity| Altmer Sorceror • Drizlo| Orc DragonKnight • Lady Ra Gada| Redguard Sorceror
Taste-of-Hist-Sap| Argonian Nightblade • War'den Peace| Khajiit Warden • Little Warden Annie Altmer Warden
Ports with Blood| Breton Templar • Dirty-Old-Man| Dunmer DragonKnight • Eyes-of-the-Sun| Argonian DragonKnight
Bleak Mystique| Nord Warden • Polychronopolous| Imperial Sorceror • Bullcrit| Khajiit Nightblade
PC NA CP 1250+ and still a noob
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Froil✭✭✭✭✭
✭I personally don't believe the motif exists because the drop rate is.. well I'll have a higher chance of seeing myself coming from the future to tell me about everything there; and I won't believe it actually exists until I find a page myself.
Sure sure I've seen people post their Buoyant Armiger achievement, a few pages in zone and seen them in guild stores, but they can't be real.
It was easier getting the Ra Gada motif..."Best" healer PC/NA2 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Found one earlier this morning in 3 chests after not finding one in about 180 chests yesterday night0 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
@Kyle1983b14_ESO
Can I ask if you have the Treasure Hunter passive on the character(s) that found them? Just curious if Treasure Hunter may actually be decreasing the chances with them as it increases the chance and quality on set items.
I use the 75 Shadow perk Treasure hunter along with the Champion of Vivec achievement0 -
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✭manavortex wrote: »So... I've been starting to farm myself an Armiger. Needless to say, it's not going very well.
I've started doing this at Ledgerdmain Rank 4. Now I'm almost at rank 7. I haven't picked or stolen anything that wasn't a random chest on Vvardenfell, I have the passive, I have the achievement.
Total number of motifs looted: Zero.
Is this working as intended? Just checking, because... you know.
Working as intended as in just go buy it when it comes out in the crown store.0 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I personally don't believe the motif exists because the drop rate is.. well I'll have a higher chance of seeing myself coming from the future to tell me about everything there; and I won't believe it actually exists until I find a page myself.
Sure sure I've seen people post their Buoyant Armiger achievement, a few pages in zone and seen them in guild stores, but they can't be real.
It was easier getting the Ra Gada motif...
Oh they exist my main crafter sheet
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manavortex✭✭✭✭Well - after three levels of Legerdemain I finally got one. On my other character. In the fifth chest she opened (intermediary, I haven't seen a single Master chest on Vvardenfell yet).
While she has every single Morrowind achievement, she doesn't have the passive. I've been trying to farm with her, and some fifty-ish chests later, no luck.Stop Zanil Theran's sinister plot to exterminate bank space! Give ESO+ subscribers a virtual Furniture Bag!0 -
faerigirl✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »I personally don't believe the motif exists because the drop rate is.. well I'll have a higher chance of seeing myself coming from the future to tell me about everything there; and I won't believe it actually exists until I find a page myself.
Sure sure I've seen people post their Buoyant Armiger achievement, a few pages in zone and seen them in guild stores, but they can't be real.
It was easier getting the Ra Gada motif...
Oh they exist my main crafter sheet
Totally off topic....
Craft store is fixed????!!!!1 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Have not seen one motif page so far. It's just so stupid to have drop chances that start with a 0 apparently.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
manavortex✭✭✭✭Stop Zanil Theran's sinister plot to exterminate bank space! Give ESO+ subscribers a virtual Furniture Bag!1
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Gordias✭✭The drop rate seems to be around 100 - 200 chests if you have the Treasure Hunter from The Shadow constellation. There are around 150 chests in Vvardenfell, not counting the ones in dungeons and trials.
For an overly optimistic calculation, let's say that the chance to get a motif from a treasure chest is 1 in 100, the average chest re-spawn time is 5 minutes, and all the treasure chests are constantly being tracked by the players -in other words they are opened the moment they spawn-, it will yield (24 x 60 minutes) / (5 minutes) * (150 chests) / (100 chests) = 432 motifs a day.
When I am farming chests, I usually find one in every two chests I check during the day and find around four chests in every five chests at midnight. We can say that around one third of the chests are constantly being tracked during the crowded time and one in five chests are being tracked while most players are asleep, so we can say that one in three chests are being constantly tracked in average, which lowers our result from 432 to 151 motifs a day or roughly 10 players with full chapters a day. So if you have a hardcore crafting guild with 300 members, you all might have the full chapters in a month.
PS: If you want an addon to track these chests and never heard of HarvestMap before or how good it is for tracking these chests - or think HarvestMap is not buggy enough for your taste - I've written an addon that just tracks the Vvardenfell chests. As the author though, I can tell you that I only found two motifs so far, so there's your motivation!3 -
saxgooner✭✭✭The drop rate seems to be around 100 - 200 chests if you have the Treasure Hunter from The Shadow constellation. There are around 150 chests in Vvardenfell, not counting the ones in dungeons and trials.
For an overly optimistic calculation, let's say that the chance to get a motif from a treasure chest is 1 in 100, the average chest re-spawn time is 5 minutes, and all the treasure chests are constantly being tracked by the players -in other words they are opened the moment they spawn-, it will yield (24 x 60 minutes) / (5 minutes) * (150 chests) / (100 chests) = 432 motifs a day.
When I am farming chests, I usually find one in every two chests I check during the day and find around four chests in every five chests at midnight. We can say that around one third of the chests are constantly being tracked during the crowded time and one in five chests are being tracked while most players are asleep, so we can say that one in three chests are being constantly tracked in average, which lowers our result from 432 to 151 motifs a day or roughly 10 players with full chapters a day. So if you have a hardcore crafting guild with 300 members, you all might have the full chapters in a month.
PS: If you want an addon to track these chests and never heard of HarvestMap before or how good it is for tracking these chests - or think HarvestMap is not buggy enough for your taste - I've written an addon that just tracks the Vvardenfell chests. As the author though, I can tell you that I only found two motifs so far, so there's your motivation!
It's much worse for xb1 eu, probably about 1 in 4001 -
Gordias✭✭Buoyant Armiger motif chapters are being sold for around 200k in EU server, and a somewhat optimistic calculation yields roughly two hours of constant farming per motif chapter (with the help of addons and Treasure Hunter), so while it is extremely frustrating and tedious, it is also one of the most profitable ways of making gold at the moment.
I'm farming the motifs for myself, so it is not profitable for me until I get all fourteen of the chapters. I also don't want to pay a huge amount of gold for a motif which might spawn more frequently in the game with a later patch. I don't mind spending time farming for resources, but you don't get much from the treasure chests in Vvardenfell unless you're also farming for new sets - which are already being sold in guild traders for low prices. I'd definitely be waiting for the motif to be added to the crown store, which probably will be the case when a new dlc gets released, but I already started farming and got a few chapters. Still, I might give up and wait for the crown store any moment.0 -
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✭✭✭Yeah takes awhile to find them, you can spend up to 10 hours not finding one as well all rng, can take anywhere from an average of 50 to 900 chests for 1.0 -
Caligamy_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It's one of the another tricks by ZOS to make money. Drop chances are *** and players who want it will be forced to buy it from crown store soon.
This is exactly what I am expecting too, I farmed about 400 chests with the CP passive and achievement, tracked my progress thru the journal achievement. There were 0 motifs for me, I gave up.
But I did get a full set of divines defiler and purple jewelry that'll soon be nerfed.
Edited by Caligamy_ESO on July 8, 2017 10:09PMlove is love1 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭When you create something like this, you don't want the drop rate so high that there's no feeling of specialness when you get it..
But you also don't want it so low that if feels completely pointless to bother.
ZOS is guilty of failing that second standard... well, a lot. But Buoyant Armiger is is a whole new Universe of failure to meet that standard. The drop rate is utterly indefensible, and anyone involved in suggesting, approving, or implementing that drop rate needs to be fired and blacklisted from the entire gaming industry for the sake of us all.
I'm not even exaggerating. No person who has any business having the ability to do this would be at all capable of doing so.Edited by MasterSpatula on July 8, 2017 11:01PM"A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle8 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If you think armiger rng is bad, try finding those indoril furniture recipes and get back to me, people listing those at like 900k+2 -
meatboll✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »If you think armiger rng is bad, try finding those indoril furniture recipes and get back to me, people listing those at like 900k+
bought telvanni throne blueprint 1m.0 -
meatboll✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »If you think armiger rng is bad, try finding those indoril furniture recipes and get back to me, people listing those at like 900k+
bought telvanni throne blueprint 1m.
drop change of new furniture recipes are lowest of the entire game, i farmed 1 Master Architect ice sharpened staff and 1 inferno sharpened in less than 5 runs, but new furniture racipe=00
