Sotha Sil NA PC Thread 2

Drakkdjinn

I mean, when you've been gatecamped all cycle long by a whole bunch of smurfs with an astounding lead over the 2nd place score, are you surprised when the AD-ults use the long weekend and now-even numbers to return the saltiest of favors?

Perhaps y'all need to have your own zone-focus group before pushing one on the other factions.

At least so far today EP has been back to balance the scales, but I'm not holding my breath that the DC mob is going to hold back later tonight in the wee hours out of any sort of courtesy.

#thecyclecontinues

Scyantific

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

I mean, when you've been gatecamped all cycle long by a whole bunch of smurfs with an astounding lead over the 2nd place score, are you surprised when the AD-ults use the long weekend and now-even numbers to return the saltiest of favors?

Perhaps y'all need to have your own zone-focus group before pushing one on the other factions.

At least so far today EP has been back to balance the scales, but I'm not holding my breath that the DC mob is going to hold back later tonight in the wee hours out of any sort of courtesy.

#thecyclecontinues

Meh, they're getting more predictable by the day. Made em bleed just now for Dragonclaw.

WhiteMage

Wanna know what makes me salty rage? It's when the "other guys" bring 3 healers to an 11v2. TM you are SO good at that. Granted, the third one was an already very obnoxious pug.

Sigh, but that was hours ago. Now EP is doing weird EP things. They have brindle right now and came up to ales from the south. That's like DC using Drakelowe as a staging ground for an attack on Roe. Whatever floats their boat, I suppose.

PenguinInACan

WhiteMage wrote: »

Wanna know what makes me salty rage? It's when the "other guys" bring 3 healers to an 11v2. TM you are SO good at that. Granted, the third one was an already very obnoxious pug.

Sigh, but that was hours ago. Now EP is doing weird EP things. They have brindle right now and came up to ales from the south. That's like DC using Drakelowe as a staging ground for an attack on Roe. Whatever floats their boat, I suppose.

Wait I'm confused...are you complaining about people wanting to be healers? I've seen a lot of hate on us from a lot of people but "having healers" is pretty lacking.

WhiteMage

PenguinInACan wrote: »

WhiteMage wrote: »

Wanna know what makes me salty rage? It's when the "other guys" bring 3 healers to an 11v2. TM you are SO good at that. Granted, the third one was an already very obnoxious pug.

Sigh, but that was hours ago. Now EP is doing weird EP things. They have brindle right now and came up to ales from the south. That's like DC using Drakelowe as a staging ground for an attack on Roe. Whatever floats their boat, I suppose.

Wait I'm confused...are you complaining about people wanting to be healers? I've seen a lot of hate on us from a lot of people but "having healers" is pretty lacking.

It's the proportion that makes it rage-inducing. A previous MMO has scarred me; some particularly special groups would bring up to 50% of their group as healers. Have you ever played against that? It is the most pointless battle you could ever engage in. You cannot win in that situation, especially since good healers could easily handle 4 players alone, 6 if they have off-heals support.

I count my blessings that ESO doesn't have crap like that, but my PTSD flares up when, while already outnumbered, I'm confronted with more healers than there are players in my group.

Drakkdjinn

WhiteMage wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

WhiteMage wrote: »

Wanna know what makes me salty rage? It's when the "other guys" bring 3 healers to an 11v2. TM you are SO good at that. Granted, the third one was an already very obnoxious pug.

Sigh, but that was hours ago. Now EP is doing weird EP things. They have brindle right now and came up to ales from the south. That's like DC using Drakelowe as a staging ground for an attack on Roe. Whatever floats their boat, I suppose.

Wait I'm confused...are you complaining about people wanting to be healers? I've seen a lot of hate on us from a lot of people but "having healers" is pretty lacking.

It's the proportion that makes it rage-inducing. A previous MMO has scarred me; some particularly special groups would bring up to 50% of their group as healers. Have you ever played against that? It is the most pointless battle you could ever engage in. You cannot win in that situation, especially since good healers could easily handle 4 players alone, 6 if they have off-heals support.

I count my blessings that ESO doesn't have crap like that, but my PTSD flares up when, while already outnumbered, I'm confronted with more healers than there are players in my group.

Eww - fights with tons of healing and passive no-skill resistance resulting in pointless fights without end/tactics -- was this "previous MMO" Vivec/Trueflame by chance?

PenguinInACan

WhiteMage wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

WhiteMage wrote: »

Wanna know what makes me salty rage? It's when the "other guys" bring 3 healers to an 11v2. TM you are SO good at that. Granted, the third one was an already very obnoxious pug.

Sigh, but that was hours ago. Now EP is doing weird EP things. They have brindle right now and came up to ales from the south. That's like DC using Drakelowe as a staging ground for an attack on Roe. Whatever floats their boat, I suppose.

Wait I'm confused...are you complaining about people wanting to be healers? I've seen a lot of hate on us from a lot of people but "having healers" is pretty lacking.

It's the proportion that makes it rage-inducing. A previous MMO has scarred me; some particularly special groups would bring up to 50% of their group as healers. Have you ever played against that? It is the most pointless battle you could ever engage in. You cannot win in that situation, especially since good healers could easily handle 4 players alone, 6 if they have off-heals support.

I count my blessings that ESO doesn't have crap like that, but my PTSD flares up when, while already outnumbered, I'm confronted with more healers than there are players in my group.

Having healers is only relevant when you are fighting 3-4x your numbers. Anything other than that (sans equal sized organized group) it's just overkill and useless. It's why I haven't legitimately healed on my templar in months.

Kartalin

Magplar doesn't always equal healer

Cold91

Kartalin wrote: »

Magplar doesn't always equal healer

Yes it does, even the most dps focused PvP magplar will have skills from the heal tree. channeled focus, breath of life, the cleanse circle thingy. All Templars are healers, its just a matter of main or off-hand.

Joshlenoir

Cold91 wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Magplar doesn't always equal healer

Yes it does, even the most dps focused PvP magplar will have skills from the heal tree. channeled focus, breath of life, the cleanse circle thingy. All Templars are healers, its just a matter of main or off-hand.

As much as I love to hate on TM's beginner easymode large group comps
I'm still a Templar myself, and it takes at least decently good ones to be able to offheal, if you run honor the dead it's one burst heal and is mainly used for the Magicka Regen (I'd barely call it a proficient group healing skill). However when you have multiple Templars spamming breath of Life (has an off heal built into it) then things get pretty ridiculous. also, channeled focus has no healing utility whatsoever, it's simply a minor mending and major resistances buff at it's base form for the caster.

Scyantific

Geez if you have trouble against 3 healers in a group you're clearly lacking some composition.

WhiteMage

Kartalin wrote: »

Magplar doesn't always equal healer

Preaching to the choir on that one.

Scyantific wrote: »

Geez if you have trouble against 3 healers in a group you're clearly lacking some composition.

WhiteMage wrote: »

11v2

Tell me more about how my "group" was woefully unprepared? xD

Joshlenoir

WhiteMage wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Magplar doesn't always equal healer

Preaching to the choir on that one.

Scyantific wrote: »

Geez if you have trouble against 3 healers in a group you're clearly lacking some composition.

WhiteMage wrote: »

11v2

Tell me more about how my "group" was woefully unprepared? xD

I know right? It's quite hypocritical given the times he's been 2vXed by people. Either way, it's just a game and it's all in good fun.

Humphie

Atm the whole map is blue and Ressources at AD/EP trikeeps are getting defended like last emp again.

I went to my DC toon to ask if they enjoy this. The answer is YES. They do. They think they accomplished something, are patting their backs and I am not talking about the newbie who has no clue about how to PvP on a healthy campaign.

So from my side, I will not stay away from DC trikeep anymore. I will gatecamp them as long as possible. I am done and I am pretty disappointed in some of the DC people that should know better. It is disgusting.

Brazilionaire

Cold91 wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Magplar doesn't always equal healer

Yes it does, even the most dps focused PvP magplar will have skills from the heal tree. channeled focus, breath of life, the cleanse circle thingy. All Templars are healers, its just a matter of main or off-hand.

Nah, having healing skills doesn't make you a healer. I run a resto on my back bar, that doesn't make me a healer. In fact, I cringe every time my ward goes to someone else...

On a separate note, yesterday I hit Vivec's IC for a little bit. Ran into this group of 4 healers (IIRC 2 templars and 2 wardens). All of them with 35-40k health running proc sets (mostly Skoria) and Bat Swarm. My group of 5 could only kill one of them in 10+ minutes of battle, who respawned and came back. I negated, rooted, DPS'd. We combo'd ults but the healing was freaking insane. That was enough to remind me how CP ruins PVP.

Scyantific

We ended up going to Almalexia again last night after the Legions of Potato Norris zerg ran over Chapman and farming the AD running their emperor trading racket.

Drakkdjinn

Scyantific wrote: »

We ended up going to Almalexia again last night after the Legions of Potato Norris zerg ran over Chapman and farming the AD running their emperor trading racket.

Aww come back to Sotha man, these D.C. are free AP even if we're at 3:1 odds.

#thecyclecontinues

#pvdoorfactions

Scyantific

Oh we're not leaving the campaign, we just couldn't pass up the chance to harvest tears en masse from the AD/EP group that's been emp trading on Almalexia these past few days.

Mihael

Humphie wrote: »

Atm the whole map is blue and Ressources at AD/EP trikeeps are getting defended like last emp again.

I went to my DC toon to ask if they enjoy this. The answer is YES. They do. They think they accomplished something, are patting their backs and I am not talking about the newbie who has no clue about how to PvP on a healthy campaign.

So from my side, I will not stay away from DC trikeep anymore. I will gatecamp them as long as possible. I am done and I am pretty disappointed in some of the DC people that should know better. It is disgusting.

Honestly I agree ep and Ad should gate camp dc as much as they can, this morning that pleb that is always healing the D.C. Emp [snip] got mad cos 4 random ad farmed their group and kept sending me messages being all proud of their little night cap

[Edit for Baiting]

Humphie

Mihael wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

Atm the whole map is blue and Ressources at AD/EP trikeeps are getting defended like last emp again.

I went to my DC toon to ask if they enjoy this. The answer is YES. They do. They think they accomplished something, are patting their backs and I am not talking about the newbie who has no clue about how to PvP on a healthy campaign.

So from my side, I will not stay away from DC trikeep anymore. I will gatecamp them as long as possible. I am done and I am pretty disappointed in some of the DC people that should know better. It is disgusting.

Honestly I agree ep and Ad should gate camp dc as much as they can, this morning that pleb that is always healing the D.C. Emp [snip] got mad cos 4 random ad farmed their group and kept sending me messages being all proud of their little night cap

That alone should tell you that this person should maybe go PvE to actually learn how to sustain without 10+ people behind PvDooring.

[Edited quoted information]

Dutchessx

I don't understand people sometimes, it is an everyone looses situation when someone tries to kill a server. There use to be a lot of good pvp in the mornings on Azura's, now on Sotha Sil it is pretty much dead.
Edit: maybe I am getting on at the wrong time idk. Things picked up after we took a few things back.

Scamh

WhiteMage wrote: »

Scamh wrote: »

WhiteMage wrote: »

I love the collective hypocracy of the AD tonight, lol.

i think the correct word is hippo-cracy

As it turns out, it's actually spelled hypocrisy. Whoops.

Sad. I would have welcomed our new hippo overlords.

Scyantific

What's up with every single DC stamblade proctard that gets mad and demands a 1v1 after they fail a gank and run for their life because their health dropped below 90%? I could have written an anthology with the sheer amount of hate tells I got last night while running on my magplar.

Kartalin

Sorry EP, we try.

Jamini

Watching certain DC guilds get wiped repeatedly last night on flags by AD groups a third their size was hilarious last night. It felt good being on the front lines, drawing in all their fire with reliable healers at my back and damage flying out towards the squishier blues.

Good fighting all around AD. Good fighting.

gabriebe

@Scyantific They probably get mad when you chase them to tbag em for no particular reason. I was wondering if I knew you when you kept chasing my body in the crowd to t-bag and I was like... do we know each other??

Scyantific

gabriebe wrote: »

@Scyantific They probably get mad when you chase them to tbag em for no particular reason. I was wondering if I knew you when you kept chasing my body in the crowd to t-bag and I was like... do we know each other??

Only because you bagged our group after you zerged us down at Glade last week. Don't deny it either, I got screens of it (that obviously won't get posted because naming and shaming protects you from getting called out on it).

gabriebe

I mean feel free to post it, I've really just been ganking people solo or with a friend or two. There`s really only one person in this game that I t-bag relentlessly and it`s not you lol.

Kartalin

Jamini wrote: »

Watching certain DC guilds get wiped repeatedly last night on flags by AD groups a third their size was hilarious last night. It felt good being on the front lines, drawing in all their fire with reliable healers at my back and damage flying out towards the squishier blues.

Good fighting all around AD. Good fighting.

That faction stack though. We ran much larger than normal with TM to help counteract that but it was ridiculous at times...

wolfwraith37

Kartalin wrote: »

Sorry EP, we try.

Ok, but the two people who said those things were actually with me and the group I was in getting scrolls from DC on the other side of the map. So I'm asking honestly because no one could figure it out, but what were those AD doing at Farragut and Kingscrest?