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Unlimited Aetherial Dust

  • Magıc
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    Urkraft wrote: »
    Just because a few players have been buying up all of one rare material and then reselling it for a profit does not mean there is an exploit. Lol. If I listed 100 stacks of tempers just to liquidate for gold to buy stuff for housing or to improve my guild, that is no indication of foul play. Just because many players dont understand basic economics or capitalism, this doesn't mean those who do should be punished for being better at commerce. Keep in mind most of the best Traders in the game own the trading guilds and help balance the game economy.

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    one account in one guild:

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    another acc, one guild:

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    [Edit to remove bait.]

    Them prices :o A stack of cornflower goes for 150k on PS4 eu, 1 dust for 90-100k, 1 wax around 9k, a stack of silk for 15-16k and so on.

    Console prices are [snip]. But in that picture, that isn't a true representation of the real prices. Those bots hit the market with so many cheap mats it's unreal. Dust for 20-30kea? They were 70kea or so before this morning.

    [Edit to remove censor bypass.]
    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 1, 2017 1:18AM
  • Feanor
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    Now if we got the Cypher for 50k as well then it would be a sweet deal ;)
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  • Bonzodog01
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    Just so people know, we DO have bots, but they are being banned much faster due to sony and MS's own checks and balances.

    MS will ban an XBox by its serial number from XBox Live if its discovered to have been involved in any botting practices in any game on their platform.

    Sony, I believe, also have a similar system that will lock a console out of their network.
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  • freespirit
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    @IcyDeadPeople this is happening on PC-EU :(
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Bonzodog01 wrote: »
    Just so people know, we DO have bots, but they are being banned much faster due to sony and MS's own checks and balances.

    MS will ban an XBox by its serial number from XBox Live if its discovered to have been involved in any botting practices in any game on their platform.

    Sony, I believe, also have a similar system that will lock a console out of their network.

    It's way harder to program a bot for console than PC. You have them, but they're extremely rare.

    On PC, you can just google "ESO bot" and download and install.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on June 29, 2017 11:24PM
  • zeus1gdsm
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    I wish ps4 server would have a price crash.. I can't afford to buy the mats I need to craft a full set of 160 gear.

    I literally have to go and grind a gold farm to get cash so I can get Mats for all my crafts.

    And it's not a "get good" situation. It's literally a time investment issue. Not enough time to invest.

    And man would it be amazing if console could get a pricing add on to prevent inflated prices.
    Edited by zeus1gdsm on June 29, 2017 11:31PM
  • MLGProPlayer
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    zeus1gdsm wrote: »
    I wish ps4 server would have a price crash.. I can't afford to buy the mats I need to craft a full set of 160 gear.

    I literally have to go and grind a gold farm to get cash so I can get Mats for all my crafts.

    And it's not a "get good" situation. It's literally a time investment issue. Not enough time to invest.

    And man would it be amazing if console could get a pricing add on to prevent inflated prices.

    But it also means you can make gold much quicker than on PC due to the higher price of everything you can sell.

    You should be able yo easily make 150-200k an hour farming mats on console (and then just buy the ones you need). Everything is relative.
  • Roovin
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    All that gold and you still can't buy BiS gear :(

    Nor should you be able to
  • NeillMcAttack
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    Not forgetting the fact that PC transfers came with loads of coin in the beginning, and to this day still control the market, with multiple accounts each!! I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just the way it is!
    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 1, 2017 1:05AM
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  • Urkraft
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    @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    I'd be glad, if you people give any infos, like wether ZOS is working on it (rly working on it). This time its nothing like the former bot and goldseller reports.

    Thanks in advance.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Anyone besides me sensing the next ban wave of 3-day to 7-day account suspensions, meanwhile exploiters are allowed to keep all gold and profits acquired from abusing the said exploit? Can you all say "Survey Exploit 2.0"?
  • Urkraft
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Anyone besides me sensing the next ban wave of 3-day to 7-day account suspensions, meanwhile exploiters are allowed to keep all gold and profits acquired from abusing the said exploit? Can you all say "Survey Exploit 2.0"?

    well goldsellers usually get a permaban, but isnt a big deal. they just make a cheap new account and go on.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    laksikus wrote: »
    its really happening.

    Kuta, wax and dust at least

    If you have a crafting bag, can't go wrong with mounds of refining mats. You can even make gold training gear.
  • Sheey
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    At least leaping inside keeps was perma ban ;)
  • DemonDruaga
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    Sheey wrote: »
    At least leaping inside keeps was perma ban ;)

    The good old times you mean? :smiley:
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  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Oh pish posh
  • forgottengd
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    I reported ALL THEIR GUILD "Ru Trade" 2 month ago, but ZOS don't care!!!!!
    2 MOTNHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    nobody care about reports, @ZOS_GinaBruno never checking pm.
    and thats what is going on when nobody cares.
  • DemonDruaga
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    I reported ALL THEIR GUILD "Ru Trade" 2 month ago, but ZOS don't care!!!!!
    2 MOTNHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    nobody care about reports, @ZOS_GinaBruno never checking pm.
    and thats what is going on when nobody cares.


    just so ZOS can read it twice !
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  • JamieAubrey
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    2 separate traders in Craglorn someone is selling 50 Dust in stacks of 5 in both of those guilds at 300k per
  • f047ys3v3n
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    Urkraft wrote: »
    hundreds of aetherial dust, thousands of kutas and tons of wax today flooded the market. people thought they'd make a good deal as resellers....but market will crush due to this. something happened, i have no clue how. i hope zos will have a look into this. there is something totally wrong. there cant be given any proof. it would mean providing names...

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    this is only one person trying to get rid of what he bought....
    another friend told me, he bought 100 because he thought its a good deal. but also he knows of others...

    since i am also farming and know the drops of dust as well, i am quite sure its no reselling activity of people who bought up stores over weeks.


    @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Hmmm. I have wondered for some time if RNJesus lived in my computer or on the server. I have been wondering because the cheat engine guys showed that lots of stuff, like say gravity and damage calculations, were client side. I thought, gee, RNG calculations are also computation intense. I wonder if they offloaded that as well. Perhaps, it is not an exploit but rather an engine.

    Please, Please, let it be an engine so maybe that will get some attention. Also, please let something be done before it comes to NA and my stacks of gold mats become so many continentals.
    I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.
  • SantieClaws
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    This smells worse than the unwashed swimwear of an orc in the Alik'r desert.

    It also smells of a dupe or something perhaps rather than bot travellers alone - even many many bot travellers could not really be expected to find so much dust in such a short time. After all there are only so many nodes out there in the world to be harvested at any one time yes.

    Or perhaps a bug where a small number of certain nodes give much more than they should?

    This one hopes for swift investigation and then action to resolve the situation yes.

    Yours with paws
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  • SantieClaws
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    By the way it would probably be also helpful if those with screenshots and paws on the ground could submit reports while in Tamriel also.

    It is possible that the relevant guards may not see this thread until much later on in the day and tagging names may does help much when that probably happens hundreds of times each day yes.

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    Shunrr's Skooma Oasis - The Movie. A housing video like no other ...
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  • Urkraft
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    well i sent the original screenshots with names to jessica and the others, she replied last night already that they are very helpfull. i also sent ingame reports too
    Edited by Urkraft on June 30, 2017 7:29AM
  • Turelus
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Anyone besides me sensing the next ban wave of 3-day to 7-day account suspensions, meanwhile exploiters are allowed to keep all gold and profits acquired from abusing the said exploit? Can you all say "Survey Exploit 2.0"?
    I think if ZOS can track the money they take it away.

    As was shown with the AP farming that happened, the issue is people who know that and cash out early as ZOS doesn't seem to follow the trail nor take negative balance actions.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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  • F7sus4
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    laksikus wrote: »
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    Procide some proof or go more into detail or gtfo

    He cannot go into details in the forums, obviously.

    OP, send the information via forum mail to @ZOS_GinaBruno

    sure he can.
    My guess is he sees people seeling multiple of them in guild stores and thinks they cheated

    OP doesnt know how its done, so he should at least say why he thinks its not legit
    Neither you do whether he's right or not. You both are guessing and simply assuming that your own guess is the true one. Therefore - further research adviced. :)
  • sigsergv
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    I suspect it's another duplicate bug.
  • Prof_Bawbag
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    This smells worse than the unwashed swimwear of an orc in the Alik'r desert.

    It also smells of a dupe or something perhaps rather than bot travellers alone - even many many bot travellers could not really be expected to find so much dust in such a short time. After all there are only so many nodes out there in the world to be harvested at any one time yes.

    Or perhaps a bug where a small number of certain nodes give much more than they should?

    This one hopes for swift investigation and then action to resolve the situation yes.

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    @SantieClaws

    In all my time here, that is the first post I've read from yourself not in character. SantieClaws indeed. The last time I had my illusions so shattered, that i had to pick myself up from the ground, was finding out Santa wasn't real. You've made me question if anything is real. We're aw doomed. DOOMED I TELL YA!!!!
  • MLGProPlayer
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    This smells worse than the unwashed swimwear of an orc in the Alik'r desert.

    It also smells of a dupe or something perhaps rather than bot travellers alone - even many many bot travellers could not really be expected to find so much dust in such a short time. After all there are only so many nodes out there in the world to be harvested at any one time yes.

    Or perhaps a bug where a small number of certain nodes give much more than they should?

    This one hopes for swift investigation and then action to resolve the situation yes.

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    @SantieClaws

    In all my time here, that is the first post I've read from yourself not in character. SantieClaws indeed. The last time I had my illusions so shattered, that i had to pick myself up from the ground, was finding out Santa wasn't real. You've made me question if anything is real. We're aw doomed. DOOMED I TELL YA!!!!

    I suggest you read that again. :tongue:
  • SantieClaws
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    This smells worse than the unwashed swimwear of an orc in the Alik'r desert.

    It also smells of a dupe or something perhaps rather than bot travellers alone - even many many bot travellers could not really be expected to find so much dust in such a short time. After all there are only so many nodes out there in the world to be harvested at any one time yes.

    Or perhaps a bug where a small number of certain nodes give much more than they should?

    This one hopes for swift investigation and then action to resolve the situation yes.

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    @SantieClaws

    In all my time here, that is the first post I've read from yourself not in character. SantieClaws indeed. The last time I had my illusions so shattered, that i had to pick myself up from the ground, was finding out Santa wasn't real. You've made me question if anything is real. We're aw doomed. DOOMED I TELL YA!!!!


    Khajiit was talking perfectly normally sir. You have not had enough sugar with your breakfast no?

    We all know some fellow travellers are bots - elf on the outside and all dwemer cogs within.

    A bug is a kind of insect that creeps into nodes and sometimes the bank and makes strange things happen - sort of like woodworm but more unpredictable perhaps.

    These things they are part of our life yes? After all are there not stranger sights we have all seen in our travels?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws
    Shunrr's Skooma Oasis - The Movie. A housing video like no other ...
    Find it here - https://youtube.com/user/wenxue2222

    Clan Claws - now recruiting khajiit and like minded others for parties, fishing and other khajiit stuff. Contact this one for an invite.

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    https://www.imperialtradingcompany.eu/
  • Anhedonie
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    An old bug resurfaces.
    Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.
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