This is 2017 not 2014

Yarlenzey

Franieck wrote: »

Check you hard disk activity. There is probably some program or service running on the background that is using up all your disk. stop the service/exe after identifying it. For some reason ESO makes some windows services startup and go crazy on my laptop and it will only run smoothly after stopping them. Tip: Disabling shader cache did help me out a lot with loading screens and stutter.

thanks for the feedback, it just needs to be a bit more specific.

Please list those Windows services. Or do I just randomly stop (more) services?
Shader Cache: Are you still talking about Windows here? Or a game setting?

jaye63

I have 42 addons and it takes less than 30 sec to load. And most of my addons have to do with map pins. Harvest, hidden locations, quest tracking, quest givers, fishing, lost treasure... all those material pins! and of course, CraftStore. And 10 characters. Get some RAM.

Roovin

10 second load screens max for me.

Elekest

To backup the original post, I don't play on an old PC, in fact I bought this PC specifically to run ESO and yet I have issues so bad I'm literally paying for a game I cannot play. Every single update gets worse, and every patch gets worse. Today's patch is the worst of all. I've NEVER experienced loading times or lag as bad as I did tonight. The game literally took about ten minutes just to boot me out, then 20 more minutes trying to load me back in then fail and claim it's my internet's fault. It's not. Think the real issue is ZOS can't get their [snip] straight. And for people like me who sub, I'm livid that they the SAME day their money cleared from my bank account, they won't let me play.

And if it helps to know, I have guild mates with PC's way older and less quality than mine who have ZERO issues with the game.

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recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO

Playing on PC here, Ultra @ 2.4k and my loading times are no more than 15 seconds on first loads, quicker if its been loaded before.

Franieck

Yarlenzey wrote: »

Franieck wrote: »

Check you hard disk activity. There is probably some program or service running on the background that is using up all your disk. stop the service/exe after identifying it. For some reason ESO makes some windows services startup and go crazy on my laptop and it will only run smoothly after stopping them. Tip: Disabling shader cache did help me out a lot with loading screens and stutter.

thanks for the feedback, it just needs to be a bit more specific.

Please list those Windows services. Or do I just randomly stop (more) services?
Shader Cache: Are you still talking about Windows here? Or a game setting?

These are a couple of services I disable/stop (try stopping them first and see how it goes):
Windows Update (has big impact randomly mid-through game)
Superfetch
Windows Search
Anti-virus/windows defender (has big impact from time to time)
Background Intelligent Transfer Service
Nvidia Telemetry Container (if you have nvidia)
and one very important thing: disable windows telemetry and data collection. This may give you a big boost.

Shader Cache is usually set to on in nvidia settings (i am sure there is one in AMD cards as well). simply disable this (nvidia inspector is great for that in case you have nvidia). This essentially just burdens your hard drive to save up on memory, if the disk is spiking, you want to make sure to lower disk usage as much as possible, this helped me greatly.

Let me know how it goes

Additionally, whenever the game is loading, open up task manger and performance monitor. There you'll be able to see your disk activity and filter through what processes/services are using up high disk volume. After identifying the culprits, try stopping disable them.

Edit: if possible, try not disabling windows services if you don't know what they do as this can cause you a big headache and system instability. As aforementioned, try stopping them first so that in case all hell breaks loose and you forget what you messed with, you can simply restart your pc/laptop and get it to its original state back.

Franieck

From what I gather you have only been facing issues at loading screens, right? or do you also get random stutter?

SydneyGrey

KingRegis wrote: »

Ever since I got morrowind I've been dealing with the dread long loading screens 5-10mins a loading screen tha last time it was this bad was at original launch

It's your computer. My loading screens are a minute at the longest.

Emissary_Vex

Get a better computer? I'm not even using an SSD and my game loads faster than that.

Jurand80

graphics>>> shadows - OFF
much shorter loading screens

Ozstryker

Noticed lately that load screens before a dungeon are taking longer, even still, not much more than 30+ seconds!
The only other time is directly after a patch where it might take a minute...
PC btw

maboleth

My load screens are no more than 10 or so seconds. Much, much shorter than, for example, those in Skyrim.

Turelus

Andy is a nerd!

But that just makes me love him more.

RABIDxWOLVERINE

Maybe its time to upgrade your internet....

Megabear

Shadowmaster wrote: »

pod88kk wrote: »

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Have to agree with you there. Dislike those that immediately disparage others just to be mean.

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Balibe

@KingRegis

Still no response from the OP. [snip]

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QuebraRegra

I'm getting loads within areas again without even leaving (WAYREST). Remeber when they blamed too many quests in yer journal? I'm got 10... try a different excuse this time. The issue would appear to be the servers, or perhaps too many people in one instance (visuals not loading, etc.).

Hard to believe I continue to sub... Hmm, might need to change that.

Balamoor

KingRegis wrote: »

Ever since I got morrowind I've been dealing with the dread long loading screens 5-10mins a loading screen tha last time it was this bad was at original launch

You should see FFXIV its about a 45 min wait just to log in

people be playin some games

Browiseth

current year argument successful

Elsonso

Graydon wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

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I care if he is Al Gore and invented the internet. I have a few choice suggestions for him, in that case.

I do not think that ZOS has downgraded their hardware, either. I am eager to find out why @SirAndy thinks that, and where he got that impression from. If anything, I think they have expanded their hardware, at least in terms of player capacity. I am confident that ZOS rents, so the hardware used today is probably not exactly the same as it was in 2014, and might consist of more powerful and faster equipment so that they need less of it.

Now, whether they have kept pace with the number of players, that is a different thought.

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

Kodrac wrote: »

Invincible wrote: »

In the 90s you had to wait 20 minutes to load a jpeg [snip] you talking about bruh

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Just be glad that they did not have to mail you punch cards.

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Insandros

@KingRegis

Exactly, it's 2017 not 2014, if you're on PC, ever thought about replacing your old SATA drive with a 2017 SSD?

Franieck

Kodrac wrote: »

Graydon wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

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I have to agree... No game should be so hard to be made playable when you have decent specs.

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Skjoldur

Vipstaakki wrote: »

HAHAHAHA! Poor you for having to wait 5 minutes. People in the 90's had to wait 20 minutes to even get a game to start.

Not helpful and wrong: 20 minutes was more the c64 + datasette era.

Giraffon

My load screens always get longer when I'm in a large Cyrodiil group. Try not to die when you zerg!!

TheDarkoil

My load time is like 10 - 15 seconds so I'd imagine you have a pc or Internet connection issue.

Merlin13KAGL

Franieck wrote: »

These are a couple of services I disable/stop (try stopping them first and see how it goes):
Windows Update (has big impact randomly mid-through game)
Superfetch
Windows Search
Anti-virus/windows defender (has big impact from time to time)
Background Intelligent Transfer Service
Nvidia Telemetry Container (if you have nvidia)
and one very important thing: disable windows telemetry and data collection. This may give you a big boost.

Telling someone to disable their Antivirus to make their game run better is perhaps one of the single worst bits of advice to give to anyone.

Windows Defender, maybe. Antivirus - hell no, not for any game, not for a minute, not ever.

If your AV is affecting your game:

• Add the game to the 'trusted' section of your AV
• Get a new/better AV
• Get a new/better PC.

Simply put, if you have to ask which services are ok to stop or temp disable, or if you are recommending someone disable AV to make their PC perform better, you have zero business mucking about with Windows services in the first place.

It ends badly.

Franieck

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Franieck wrote: »

These are a couple of services I disable/stop (try stopping them first and see how it goes):
Windows Update (has big impact randomly mid-through game)
Superfetch
Windows Search
Anti-virus/windows defender (has big impact from time to time)
Background Intelligent Transfer Service
Nvidia Telemetry Container (if you have nvidia)
and one very important thing: disable windows telemetry and data collection. This may give you a big boost.

Telling someone to disable their Antivirus to make their game run better is perhaps one of the single worst bits of advice to give to anyone.

Windows Defender, maybe. Antivirus - hell no, not for any game, not for a minute, not ever.

If your AV is affecting your game:

• Add the game to the 'trusted' section of your AV
• Get a new/better AV
• Get a new/better PC.

Simply put, if you have to ask which services are ok to stop or temp disable, or if you are recommending someone disable AV to make their PC perform better, you have zero business mucking about with Windows services in the first place.

It ends badly.

I have my AV disabled for the past 1 year and a half and from my experience my laptop runs much smoother. AV slows everything down on my laptop, it's awful. Every week I download Avira, run a full scan and then uninstall everything again. Works like a charm for me.

Huyen

I think the biggest issue at the moment is the constant talk about SSD's, and their ability to boot your computer within 10 seconds. Wich is still bs as most of the background applications will require some time to load (depending on how much you got running on startup). People lack the patience these days.

Autolycus

SirAndy wrote: »

KingRegis wrote: »

This is 2017 not 2014

I remember 2014 like it was just three years ago.
Also, loading screens were generally much shorter back then.

Putting the abysmal Client/Server implementation aside for a moment, ZOS has been continuously scaling down their Server hardware ever since launch.

It should be no surprise to anyone that this is getting worse instead of better.

Agreed. I and several of my friends all ran Traceroutes to the server IP address provided directly by ZOS support, and every test returned the same result. Our findings suggest (if not outright prove) that packets are being rejected by the endpoint, aka their server. I got their ISP involved after seeing this, and their engineers ran their own investigation and confirmed the same thing. Information is transmitted successfully all the way to the server, and for whatever reason (most likely they don't have the capacity for everything flowing in simultaneously) they reject it.

The takeaway here is that ZOS is not fixing it. A combination of too little or underperforming hardware and ZOS's iconic lack of caring about our performance despite hard evidence is likely the culprit here. No, we shouldn't be surprised. And yes, I did send all of my findings to ZOS and was ignored. The whole process was a constant, daily exchange between me and support trying to troubleshoot. The second I provided this data to them, my ticket was closed.

casparian

Autolycus wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

KingRegis wrote: »

This is 2017 not 2014

I remember 2014 like it was just three years ago.
Also, loading screens were generally much shorter back then.

Putting the abysmal Client/Server implementation aside for a moment, ZOS has been continuously scaling down their Server hardware ever since launch.

It should be no surprise to anyone that this is getting worse instead of better.

Agreed. I and several of my friends all ran Traceroutes to the server IP address provided directly by ZOS support, and every test returned the same result. Our findings suggest (if not outright prove) that packets are being rejected by the endpoint, aka their server. I got their ISP involved after seeing this, and their engineers ran their own investigation and confirmed the same thing. Information is transmitted successfully all the way to the server, and for whatever reason (most likely they don't have the capacity for everything flowing in simultaneously) they reject it.

The takeaway here is that ZOS is not fixing it. A combination of too little or underperforming hardware and ZOS's iconic lack of caring about our performance despite hard evidence is likely the culprit here. No, we shouldn't be surprised. And yes, I did send all of my findings to ZOS and was ignored. The whole process was a constant, daily exchange between me and support trying to troubleshoot. The second I provided this data to them, my ticket was closed.

Autolycus, I think a number of us would appreciate it if you turned this comment into a more detailed write-up in a standalone thread. It sounds like you did some incredibly in-depth research on this which led to some striking findings, and greater publicity about it could help many of us understand our own connection issues and possibly get more attention from ZOS.