What is the use for Summon Shade/Dark Shades/Mirror Image ?

vpy

The final skill in Shadow tree (NB) is Summon Shade.

What is the benefit of that spell ?

Do these shades help the character by keeping the aggro on them ?

Or are there any use for this ability ?

Unfadingsilence

Great in pvp.
Dark shade: Summon two shade versions of yourself to attack an enemy and fight your side for 15 seconds.The shade’s attacks deal [x] Magic Damage and afflict the enemy with Minor Maim, reducing their damage by 15% for 4 seconds.Summon 2 shades instead of one.

And Shadow Image great for PVP
Summon a shade version of yourself to stay in place and attack an enemy from range for 15 seconds.The shade’s attacks deal [x] Magic Damage and afflict the enemy with Minor Maim, reducing their damage by 15% for 4 seconds.While the shade is summoned, you can activate this ability again to teleport to the shade's location.Summon a ranged shade instead which deals more damage, and you can activate the ability again to teleport to it.

Anlace

If you call up Shadow Image before you Lotus Fan, you can get in and do damage while the shade does damage from range, then reactivate to go back to range yourself. Useful for a magblade with no stabby weapons for close fighting.

Caligamy_ESO

I used them on my old NB tank build to maim the boss and lower its damage (by -15% I believe) You also get some nice tank friendly passive buffs from casting it/slotting it.

GreenSoup2HoT

Twin Shades, great for people who block a lot and applying minor maim.

Summon Shade, great for applying minor maim and for the awesome jukes. This morph is also bugged and prevents other nightblades from cloaking if they cloak right as the shade shoots an arrow.

max_only

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

I used them on my old NB tank build to maim the boss and lower its damage (by -15% I believe) You also get some nice tank friendly passive buffs from casting it/slotting it.

This. A little help to your dps too. and they count as pets if you are using necropotence

GrumpyDuckling

The Dark Shades morph needs to be a better morph. It's not good enough to just add a second shade. The shades don't do enough damage for a second shade to be considered a benefit, both shades always attack the same target (so it's not like you get to debuff more targets), and if you're fighting mobile targets then the shades are at risk of spending most of their time chasing instead of attacking.

I find little reason to use Dark Shades over Shadow Image, which will land most of its attacks provided an enemy doesn't leave range - to go along with the added maneuverability.

phaneub17_ESO

I don't really use the Shades for damage, just to distract mobs when there's a large trash pack like on Dolmens with few players.

Gargath

My Shade doesn't distract or taunt pve mobs, once I cast the shade the mob rushes at me leaving my Shade alone, and Shade is chasing mob wasting time on running without any attacks. And Shade's attack power is more like a fly biting a bull. Imo it should hit at least 2x harder to make any difference. I also read that most people in pvp don't block shades anymore since they know that shades cannot harm much. They draw attention mostly of the pvp noobs.

Biro123

Fantastic mobility/escape tool for PVP.

Nerf Sorcs!

WildWilbur

Biro123 wrote: »

Fantastic mobility/escape tool for PVP.

Nerf Sorcs!

^This.

MakoFore

this is a great skill- but bloody hard to use. i would say its one of the more advanced line of sight tactics in the game, that when done by a master, in a tower or a keep- can keep a NB alive against a zerg of 20. look up some videos on youtube. i tried it once though and got dropped within 5 seconds. you need alot of situational and spatial awarenss to do well- otherwise you just look stupid.

Maryal

For an interesting discussion about the Dark Shade morph check this out:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/363114/please-consider-adding-aoe-component-to-dark-shades-morph#latest

Nemesis7884

Mirror image - movement/trolling in pvp

shades - tanking or necropotence procing (what im using it for)

Feanor

Also @NightbladeMechanics reported you can apparently port to other friendly NB shades under certain circumstances. Go figure.

gard

vpy wrote: »

The final skill in Shadow tree (NB) is Summon Shade.

What is the benefit of that spell ?

Do these shades help the character by keeping the aggro on them ?

Or are there any use for this ability ?

Can you not read the skill description?

runagate

For PvP you can perform tactical maneuvers like fighting on a wall of a keep, jumping off to the outside and when enemies follow port back to the top the wall and snipe them down while they run for an entrance.

Strider_Roshin

As a stamblade I find Shadow Image to be very useful, and way more dependable than cloak. My only gripe is the fact that it requires a target, and it gives you false activation of the teleport at times.

As mentioned before though, this skill does require foresight, and logical placement. You can't mindlessly use this ability in combat. I also activate this ability whenever someone uses destro ult in order to reduce their damage by 15%.

Here's me experimenting with Shadow Image in battlegrounds (2:24 mark). It's replaced cloak ever since.

https://youtu.be/iG1xSXZAqKg

NightbladeMechanics

Feanor wrote: »

Also @NightbladeMechanics reported you can apparently port to other friendly NB shades under certain circumstances. Go figure.

Shade poof teleports you to the nearest shade, regardless of who it belongs to. Very convenient for shenanigans...which may or may not include...you know...keep walls and things...

The stamblade I'm fighting ports to my shade at 5:47 of my latest video.

Feanor

@NightbladeMechanics

Working as intended, right?

NightbladeMechanics

Feanor wrote: »

@NightbladeMechanics

Working as intended, right?

It has always worked that way, so...I suppose so!

PS4_ZeColmeia

@NightbladeMechanics I don't run with enough NB that use shades to have this experience. Does the tele to other NB shadow image (im assuming you won't go to dark shades) require you go recast your shadow image to tele again, or does the tele only cause a recast when you get to your own shadow image?

NightbladeMechanics

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

@NightbladeMechanics I don't run with enough NB that use shades to have this experience. Does the tele to other NB shadow image (im assuming you won't go to dark shades) require you go recast your shadow image to tele again, or does the tele only cause a recast when you get to your own shadow image?

One teleport per cast of Shadow Image regardless of the shade to which you poof.

PS4_ZeColmeia

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

@NightbladeMechanics I don't run with enough NB that use shades to have this experience. Does the tele to other NB shadow image (im assuming you won't go to dark shades) require you go recast your shadow image to tele again, or does the tele only cause a recast when you get to your own shadow image?

One teleport per cast of Shadow Image regardless of the shade to which you poof.

That's what I figured.

AdicusDio

I agree with others, they should do more damage or have a morph to reduce shield effectiveness for 15 seconds, which would be more useful than maim. Either as much damage as a Twilight/Familiar, or similar to Shadowrend. Other than distracting someone (the ranged archer will pelt you repeatedly if in line of sight), minor maim is the only thing that can be helpful, other than teleport which has uses.

Biro123

AdicusDio wrote: »

I agree with others, they should do more damage or have a morph to reduce shield effectiveness for 15 seconds, which would be more useful than maim. Either as much damage as a Twilight/Familiar, or similar to Shadowrend. Other than distracting someone (the ranged archer will pelt you repeatedly if in line of sight), minor maim is the only thing that can be helpful, other than teleport which has uses.

Does it need slotting in both bars?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Gargath wrote: »

My Shade doesn't distract or taunt pve mobs, once I cast the shade the mob rushes at me leaving my Shade alone, and Shade is chasing mob wasting time on running without any attacks. And Shade's attack power is more like a fly biting a bull. Imo it should hit at least 2x harder to make any difference. I also read that most people in pvp don't block shades anymore since they know that shades cannot harm much. They draw attention mostly of the pvp noobs.

If a player is already blocking then it adds to the drain long time vets with block builds still block this. Non block builds with of course stop blocking them. But it's like a shield stack build where all your gear is for shields and someone uses shield breaker you can't just stop using your shields.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Biro123 wrote: »

AdicusDio wrote: »

I agree with others, they should do more damage or have a morph to reduce shield effectiveness for 15 seconds, which would be more useful than maim. Either as much damage as a Twilight/Familiar, or similar to Shadowrend. Other than distracting someone (the ranged archer will pelt you repeatedly if in line of sight), minor maim is the only thing that can be helpful, other than teleport which has uses.

Does it need slotting in both bars?

No they a timer all timed summons just need one bar all permanent summons need double or tripe bars.