Total number of skill points as of Morrowind

Megabear

I'm trying to find this info but everything I see is outdated. Anyone have a complete list?

Megabear

I have below up to July of 2016, but nothing updated since. Anyone have an idea?

Total Available Skill Points as of July 2016: 366

Reach character level 50: 64
Reach Alliance Rank 50: 50
Complete all main story quests: 11
Complete alliance storyline quests: 49
Complete Imperial City DLC: 1
Complete Orsinium DLC: 3
Complete Thieves Guild DLC: 6
Complete Dark Brotherhood DLC: 8
Read the Folium Discognitum in the Mages’ Guild storyline: 2
Absorb all Skyshards: 127
Slay group bosses in all public dungeons: 18
Complete quests in normal difficulty group dungeons: 16
Complete quests in veteran dungeons: 8
Complete Imperial City DLC group dungeons: 2
Complete Maelstom Arena in Orsinium: 1

Rouven

Megabear wrote: »

Total: 381 + 18 from Morrowind

Total Available Skill Points as of July 2016: 366

So, where does the 15 skill points come from between July 2016 and pre-Morrowind?

I can be wrong but are you are looking at total number of skyshards per chance?

Megabear

Sorry I got wrong info and edited my comment accordingly. No, I'm looking for total number of skill points..

Sheey

Alliance war gives only 25.

Taleof2Cities

UESP had 368 as of Shadows of the Hist.

So, add the Morrowind skyshards (18 skyshards for a total of 6 skill points)

1 skill point for completing the main quest

1 skill point for completing the tutorial

1 skill point for completing Halls of Fabrication

2 skill points for the public dungeon events

What am I missing?

Taleof2Cities

Sheey wrote: »

Alliance war gives only 25.

There are fifty (50) ranks in the Alliance War ... so it's more than 25.

Megabear

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

UESP had 368 as of Shadows of the Hist.

So, add the Morrowind skyshards (18 skyshards for a total of 6 skill points)

1 skill point for completing the main quest

1 skill point for completing the tutorial

1 skill point for completing Halls of Fabrication

2 skill points for the public dungeon events

What am I missing?

Thank you for this.

So far I have the following:

Total Available Skill Points before Morrowind: 368

Skyshards: 127
Reach character level 50: 64
Reach Alliance Rank 50: 50
Complete all main story quests: 11
Complete alliance storyline quests: 49
Complete Imperial City DLC: 1
Complete Orsinium DLC: 3
Complete Thieves Guild DLC: 6
Complete Dark Brotherhood DLC: 8
Read the Folium Discognitum in the Mages’ Guild storyline: 2 (irreversible choice during quest turn in, be careful)
Slay group bosses in all public dungeons: 18
Complete quests in normal difficulty group dungeons: 16
Complete quests in veteran dungeons: 8
Complete Imperial City DLC group dungeons: 2
Complete Maelstom Arena in Orsinium: 1
Complete the Shadows of the Hist dungeons: 2

Total Available Skill Points in Morrowind: 11 (?)

Morrowind skyshards: 6
Complete Morrowind main quest: 1
Complete Morrowind tutorial: 1
Complete Halls of Fabrication: 1
Complete Morrowind public dungeon event: 2

Total Available Skill Points as of Morrowind update: 379 (?)

Rouven

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Megabear

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Rouven

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

kgrizzle

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

Rouven

kgrizzle wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

No official comment afaik.

Megabear

kgrizzle wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

For one thing 1 skill point won't make a difference unless you want to spend points on virtually everything. Also if devs had the manpower I'm sure this is something they would normally fix, but I feel that they are under a lot of strain and 1 skill point probably isn't in their radar for the time being. Anyway, don't buy Morrowind for the 1 skill point. But if you are interested in Warden, BG and the content it brings, sure why not.

lagrue

Megabear wrote: »

kgrizzle wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

For one thing 1 skill point won't make a difference unless you want to spend points on virtually everything.

I wish more people understood everything you just said - but this especially. 1 skill point is a drop in the bucket at the end of the day - it has no real value when you have all the others.

BigBadVolk

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

UESP had 368 as of Shadows of the Hist.

So, add the Morrowind skyshards (18 skyshards for a total of 6 skill points)

1 skill point for completing the main quest

1 skill point for completing the tutorial

1 skill point for completing Halls of Fabrication

2 skill points for the public dungeon events

What am I missing?

also some questlines like the Telvanni gives 1 Skillpoint
Also there is only 25 skill points in Alliance War because you only get one per Rank and every rank has 1 and 2

Aliyavana

Megabear wrote: »

kgrizzle wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

For one thing 1 skill point won't make a difference unless you want to spend points on virtually everything. Also if devs had the manpower I'm sure this is something they would normally fix, but I feel that they are under a lot of strain and 1 skill point probably isn't in their radar for the time being. Anyway, don't buy Morrowind for the 1 skill point. But if you are interested in Warden, BG and the content it brings, sure why not.

lagrue wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

kgrizzle wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

For one thing 1 skill point won't make a difference unless you want to spend points on virtually everything.

I wish more people understood everything you just said - but this especially. 1 skill point is a drop in the bucket at the end of the day - it has no real value when you have all the others.

And I wish more people would understand that this affects completionists and just because it doesn't affect your playstyle doesn't mean it's insignificant. I have over 330 skill points and I'll never be able to collect every skillpoint in the game because something I have no control over

lagrue

aliyavana wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

kgrizzle wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

For one thing 1 skill point won't make a difference unless you want to spend points on virtually everything. Also if devs had the manpower I'm sure this is something they would normally fix, but I feel that they are under a lot of strain and 1 skill point probably isn't in their radar for the time being. Anyway, don't buy Morrowind for the 1 skill point. But if you are interested in Warden, BG and the content it brings, sure why not.

lagrue wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

kgrizzle wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

For one thing 1 skill point won't make a difference unless you want to spend points on virtually everything.

I wish more people understood everything you just said - but this especially. 1 skill point is a drop in the bucket at the end of the day - it has no real value when you have all the others.

And I wish more people would understand that this affects completionists and just because it doesn't affect your playstyle doesn't mean it's insignificant. I have over 330 skill points and I'll never be able to collect every skillpoint in the game because something I have no control over

Completionism is insignificant - I too am a completionist and let me tell you that obsessive compulsive tendencies aren't significant impacts to the game or its experience unless you allow them to be. Have you completed all the achievements, have you collected every set? Do you have every pet/mount ever released? If not then you're looking for a reason to be soggy about something that is otherwise not a major issue.

And you always call me out in these threads and I always tell you the same thing - I AM NOT AGAINST THEM FIXING IT - I just want people to understand they can get by without it.. When people are considering only buying it for 1 skill point, that's kinda sad and we shouldn't be encouraging that.

I'm a trophy hunter on Ps4 with over 100+ Platinums - I know full well what its like to be completionist down to the true definition of doing everything there is to do - but lacking one skill point just isn't harmful to game mechanics - that's the only thing I'm saying.

Aliyavana

lagrue wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

kgrizzle wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

For one thing 1 skill point won't make a difference unless you want to spend points on virtually everything. Also if devs had the manpower I'm sure this is something they would normally fix, but I feel that they are under a lot of strain and 1 skill point probably isn't in their radar for the time being. Anyway, don't buy Morrowind for the 1 skill point. But if you are interested in Warden, BG and the content it brings, sure why not.

lagrue wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

kgrizzle wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Megabear wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

As you may be aware (there are a few threads about this) currently you are able to acquire two skill points with new characters only when finishing the tutorial.

An existing character will not get another skill point for the tutorial.

That sort of leaves that one skill point in limbo.

Oh I'm just compiling a guide for my friend with preferably updated info. He'll be new so he'll get that extra point for sure.

Well that should get him started, come august we probably get another couple of points

Is this extra skill point from starting a new character with the morrowind considered a bug that will be fixed? I own the original ESO but haven't purchased Morrowind yet. But this whole extra skill point has be thinking I will buy the expansion before I start playing again...

For one thing 1 skill point won't make a difference unless you want to spend points on virtually everything.

I wish more people understood everything you just said - but this especially. 1 skill point is a drop in the bucket at the end of the day - it has no real value when you have all the others.

And I wish more people would understand that this affects completionists and just because it doesn't affect your playstyle doesn't mean it's insignificant. I have over 330 skill points and I'll never be able to collect every skillpoint in the game because something I have no control over

Completionism is insignificant - I too am a completionist and let me tell you that obsessive compulsive tendencies aren't significant impacts to the game or its experience unless you allow them to be. Have you completed all the achievements, have you collected every set? Do you have every pet/mount ever released? If not then you're looking for a reason to be soggy about something that is otherwise not a major issue.

And you always call me out in these threads and I always tell you the same thing - I AM NOT AGAINST THEM FIXING IT - I just want people to understand they can get by without it.. When people are considering only buying it for 1 skill point, that's kinda sad and we shouldn't be encouraging that.

I'm a trophy hunter on Ps4 with over 100+ Platinums - I know full well what its like to be completionist down to the true definition of doing everything there is to do - but lacking one skill point just isn't harmful to game mechanics - that's the only thing I'm saying.

It's harmful to the game in that we raised this issue since the beta and zos hasn't even acknowledged it and the lack of communication on zos end is aggrovatting. Yes you raise the point of several different types of completionism and paying with my wallet type completionism is not a problem for me (crown cosmetics) what is a problem for me is in-game achievements and perfectionist characters beyond my reach because they are impossible to earn like some achievements being bugged are aggrovating af. I'd really want zos to atleast acknowledge the skillpoint.

Megabear

Oh I'm definitely a completionist, but within reason. I also understand that we can't just whine and expect things to just happen. Yes, I may not be happy about it but I can accept minor flaws.

Enodoc

BigBadVolk wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

UESP had 368 as of Shadows of the Hist.

So, add the Morrowind skyshards (18 skyshards for a total of 6 skill points)

1 skill point for completing the main quest

1 skill point for completing the tutorial

1 skill point for completing Halls of Fabrication

2 skill points for the public dungeon events

What am I missing?

also some questlines like the Telvanni gives 1 Skillpoint
Also there is only 25 skill points in Alliance War because you only get one per Rank and every rank has 1 and 2

I'm pretty sure you get one per numbered rank in the Alliance War, not one per title.

This is what I have counted for Morrowind so far:
18 Skyshards - 6 skill points
Vivec Questline - 1 skill point
Morag Tong Questline - 1 skill point
Telvanni Questline - 1 skill point
2 Public Dungeon Group Events - 2 skill points
Morrowind Tutorial - 1 skill point

That's 12. No other Trials give a skill point, so I don't think you get one from Halls of Fabrication.

Megabear

Good work and thank you. Below is updated tally:

Total Available Skill Points before Morrowind: 368

Skyshards: 127
Reach character level 50: 64
Reach Alliance Rank 50: 50
Complete all main story quests: 11
Complete alliance storyline quests: 49
Complete Imperial City DLC: 1
Complete Orsinium DLC: 3
Complete Thieves Guild DLC: 6
Complete Dark Brotherhood DLC: 8
Read the Folium Discognitum in the Mages’ Guild storyline: 2 (irreversible choice during quest turn in, be careful)
Slay group bosses in all public dungeons: 18
Complete quests in normal difficulty group dungeons: 16
Complete quests in veteran dungeons: 8
Complete Imperial City DLC group dungeons: 2
Complete Maelstom Arena in Orsinium: 1
Complete the Shadows of the Hist dungeons: 2

Total Available Skill Points in Morrowind: 12

Morrowind skyshards: 6
Complete Morrowind tutorial: 1
Complete Vivec quest line: 1
Complete Morag Tong quest line: 1
Complete Telvanni quest line: 1
Complete Morrowind public dungeon event: 2

Total Available Skill Points as of Morrowind update: 380

DisgracefulMind

Sheey wrote: »

Alliance war gives only 25.

No, it gives 50. You get a skillpoint per rank up, even if it's part 1 or 2.

Taleof2Cities

Enodoc wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you get one per numbered rank in the Alliance War, not one per title.

That's correct ... my healer just hit Prefect Grade 2 (Alliance Rank 32) and was awarded a skill point.

dpencil1

Also worth mentioning:

Total points needed to complete all skill trees: 526 (541 if Vampire, 548 if Waerwolf)

Megabear

dpencil1 wrote: »

Also worth mentioning:

Total points needed to complete all skill trees: 526 (541 if Vampire, 548 if Waerwolf)

Thank you for this.

sarbonn

I got one skill point from going from level 1 to 2. I suspect there are more skill points after that.

UrbanMonk

It'd be much easier if some ZOS emplyee chimes in here and puts us out of our misery. it's not a game breaking data so comon @ZOS_GinaBruno ...

Megabear

But we are not worthy

Rouven

At an average of 10 skillpoints per dlc/chapter - 4 per year - 140 skill points to max roughly - we'll be there in three and a half years ... just not Werewolves, they have to wait a tad longer.

At least for current skills. If they add more skill lines ... it's a rat race!

rotaugen454

The official Morrowind guide book says there are 379 skill points available, but probably not counting the new player extra point bug.