Official Discussion Thread for "Announcing the Horns of the Reach and Clockwork City DLCs"

ZOS_GinaBruno

This is the official discussion thread for (yesterday's) blog article Announcing the Horns of the Reach and Clockwork City DLCs. During the Bethesda E3 2017 Showcase, the Horns of the Reach and Clockwork City DLC Game Packs were both teased, giving everyone just a quick glimpse into the future of ESO. Horns of the Reach will be released in August, and Clockwork City will follow later this year.

Turelus

Will both of these be doing to PTS before launch as per normal?

Also any hints on what the base game updates will have in them? *cough* QoL UI update for guilds and merchants *cough*

ZOS_GinaBruno

Turelus wrote: »

Will both of these be doing to PTS before launch as per normal?

Also any hints on what the base game updates will have in them? *cough* QoL UI update for guilds and merchants *cough*

Per your first question, that's the plan yep. As far as base game updates, we'll be getting into those more in the coming weeks.

Cyn_v84

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As far as base game updates, we'll be getting into those more in the coming weeks.

Don't get me wrong, I'm overly exited for the new dlc's, but I'm VERY curious to see what these updates will be and how they will affect the game. Also, I believe they'll take the bulk of the attention, seeing how this forum remains full of complaints

casparian

Turelus wrote: »

Will both of these be doing to PTS before launch as per normal?

Also any hints on what the base game updates will have in them? *cough* QoL UI update for guilds and merchants *cough*

Please no. Let them fix all the bugs before adding new features. I'd love to say "why not both?", but it seems that ZOS is stretched too thin at the moment for that. Give us a working group finder (for dungeons and BGs), non-bugged stamina skills and functioning trials on console, non-bugged %-damage-scaling skills, banks that don't disappear your items, non-load-screen-inducing gap closers, Cyrodiil NPCs, etc. After that, then we can talk about new features.

Turelus

casparian wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Will both of these be doing to PTS before launch as per normal?

Also any hints on what the base game updates will have in them? *cough* QoL UI update for guilds and merchants *cough*

Please no. Let them fix all the bugs before adding new features. I'd love to say "why not both?", but it seems that ZOS is stretched too thin at the moment for that. Give us a working group finder (for dungeons and BGs), non-bugged stamina skills and functioning trials on console, non-bugged %-damage-scaling skills, banks that don't disappear your items, non-load-screen-inducing gap closers, Cyrodiil NPCs, etc. After that, then we can talk about new features.

You want UI teams to work on your combat bugs, sure what could go wrong?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Will both of these be doing to PTS before launch as per normal?

Also any hints on what the base game updates will have in them? *cough* QoL UI update for guilds and merchants *cough*

Per your first question, that's the plan yep. As far as base game updates, we'll be getting into those more in the coming weeks.

Thanks! I shall be looking forward to hearing what's coming up and testing some on PTS.

casparian

Turelus wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Will both of these be doing to PTS before launch as per normal?

Also any hints on what the base game updates will have in them? *cough* QoL UI update for guilds and merchants *cough*

Please no. Let them fix all the bugs before adding new features. I'd love to say "why not both?", but it seems that ZOS is stretched too thin at the moment for that. Give us a working group finder (for dungeons and BGs), non-bugged stamina skills and functioning trials on console, non-bugged %-damage-scaling skills, banks that don't disappear your items, non-load-screen-inducing gap closers, Cyrodiil NPCs, etc. After that, then we can talk about new features.

You want UI teams to work on your combat bugs, sure what could go wrong?

No, I want them to hire more combat people instead of focusing resources on UI and other QoL things. I've had experiences where it's literally impossible to get a group into a dungeon recently. Meanwhile, responses to QoL and Crown Store bugs are fast and functional. I admit that I don't know everything that goes on internally at ZOS, but it doesn't seem like resources are being allocated in the most player-friendly way.

MyNameIsElias

Here's hoping that we get an early august release for horns of the reach so i get some free time to play before school starts later in the month

Cinbri

Will there be new skins for Reach dungeons as it was for Shadows of hist?

AdamBourke

MyNameIsElias wrote: »

Here's hoping that we get an early august release for horns of the reach so i get some free time to play before school starts later in the month

They really should do this.

They probably won't. Especially not on console :-(.

NewBlacksmurf

Ok so all the 2013-2014 Quakecon content will release it seems.

Turelus

casparian wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Will both of these be doing to PTS before launch as per normal?

Also any hints on what the base game updates will have in them? *cough* QoL UI update for guilds and merchants *cough*

Please no. Let them fix all the bugs before adding new features. I'd love to say "why not both?", but it seems that ZOS is stretched too thin at the moment for that. Give us a working group finder (for dungeons and BGs), non-bugged stamina skills and functioning trials on console, non-bugged %-damage-scaling skills, banks that don't disappear your items, non-load-screen-inducing gap closers, Cyrodiil NPCs, etc. After that, then we can talk about new features.

You want UI teams to work on your combat bugs, sure what could go wrong?

No, I want them to hire more combat people instead of focusing resources on UI and other QoL things. I've had experiences where it's literally impossible to get a group into a dungeon recently. Meanwhile, responses to QoL and Crown Store bugs are fast and functional. I admit that I don't know everything that goes on internally at ZOS, but it doesn't seem like resources are being allocated in the most player-friendly way.

From my experience following ZOS they are, but they don't have the ability to just throw money or more devs at. I'm sure they're not happy with the persistent issues like Group Finder either, but I very much doubt they're ignoring it.

Sadly we don't really have a great understanding of the internal workings of ZOS, but I think if you ever watch ESO Live you can see the passion each developer had for the game.
If there is a bone to be picked it would be with whoever handle resource allocation, but we also don't know who they report to and what restrictions they have etc.

I guess I am just more relaxed with things since I took my break, the game is what it is and I take it for that.

Abeille

I'm super excited for the Clockwork City DLC, hoping for more main story progress.

One day we will save Darien, even if it kills me.

Ilsabet

Abeille wrote: »

I'm super excited for the Clockwork City DLC, hoping for more main story progress.

One day we will save Darien, even if it kills me.

Yesplz.

tinythinker

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As far as base game updates, we'll be getting into those more in the coming weeks.

Technically next week is a coming week...

MissBizz

Turelus wrote: »

Will both of these be doing to PTS before launch as per normal?

Also any hints on what the base game updates will have in them? *cough* QoL UI update for guilds and merchants *cough*

If any of this is coming... I know something that would be the coolest thing to announce first. *cough cough*

tinythinker

I wonder if we will run into that one reachman we had the option of sparing in The Rift (or his family if we didn't) in this DLC.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

...only ten hours for Clockwork City? So this is something Imperial City sized. Seems awfully small given that they've been foreshadowing it literally for years and dropping hints in multiple DLCs.

opaj

So, this has popped up in a few places, so I figure I'll ask it here.

If Falkreath Hold is one of the new dungeons, does this mean we shouldn't get our hopes up for an actual Falkreath zone in the future?

TheNuminous1

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

...only ten hours for Clockwork City? So this is something Imperial City sized. Seems awfully small given that they've been foreshadowing it literally for years and dropping hints in multiple DLCs.

That gives me ideas for the next pve pvp zone ! Or just any new kind of zone. I feel like there will be a new mechanic for the clockwork city. What will give it constant replayability like imperial city.

Even the pve dlc zones have dailies and such.

So I wonder if clockwork will have some new mode or gamestyle

ShedsHisTail

Hmmm... Was kinda hoping we'd some of those locked doors on Vvardenfell opened up.

FluffyReachWitch

I've also been wondering about Falkreath Hold. Is the dungeon going to span all of Falkreath, or will it be smaller? Does this rule out an open world Falkreath in the future?

Vanthras79

@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom I was kinda hoping for Falkreath Hold to be a solo-able DLC landmass, but now it's locked into a dungeon? Were will the dungeon's entrance be, Craglorn?

I hope "the guys" have a plan to make both Falkreath Hold and the Reach as a non-instanced landmass sometime in the future.

(/sigh you guys can even respond with the "s-word" if that tickles your fancy)

Blackbird_V

Is Aetherian Archive going to get fixed for the trash mobs from left side @ going to spooky ghost lady?

Speaking of trials, is Yokeda Kai getting deleted?

Are sorcs getting the nerfs they need?

Are Templar's balanced warrior passive getting spell damage buff?

MarrazzMist

Sounds great, also secretly excited for new houses

Fingolfinn01

sounds great, looking forward to these updates. keep up the good work.

Gargath

When Horns of the Reach launches, the base game will also get a major (free!) update. This update will include a new Battlegrounds map (Arcane University) and a new Battlegrounds ruleset (Chaosball), in addition to new homes, furnishings, cosmetics, and more. This update will be available to all ESO players (though only ESO: Morrowind owners will have access to the Battlegrounds content), even if you don't pick up Horns of the Reach.

It sounds like the major update for base game is going to be free! but not exactly free! as the major part of the update (Battlegrounds) will need Morrowind and Morrowind isn't free!.

luen79rwb17_ESO

Can't wait for base game update. I read ZOS is working hard on transmog. feature. Hope it's comming out soon

UncannyLinderman

Turelus wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Will both of these be doing to PTS before launch as per normal?

Also any hints on what the base game updates will have in them? *cough* QoL UI update for guilds and merchants *cough*

Please no. Let them fix all the bugs before adding new features. I'd love to say "why not both?", but it seems that ZOS is stretched too thin at the moment for that. Give us a working group finder (for dungeons and BGs), non-bugged stamina skills and functioning trials on console, non-bugged %-damage-scaling skills, banks that don't disappear your items, non-load-screen-inducing gap closers, Cyrodiil NPCs, etc. After that, then we can talk about new features.

You want UI teams to work on your combat bugs, sure what could go wrong?

No, I want them to hire more combat people instead of focusing resources on UI and other QoL things. I've had experiences where it's literally impossible to get a group into a dungeon recently. Meanwhile, responses to QoL and Crown Store bugs are fast and functional. I admit that I don't know everything that goes on internally at ZOS, but it doesn't seem like resources are being allocated in the most player-friendly way.

From my experience following ZOS they are, but they don't have the ability to just throw money or more devs at. I'm sure they're not happy with the persistent issues like Group Finder either, but I very much doubt they're ignoring it.

Sadly we don't really have a great understanding of the internal workings of ZOS, but I think if you ever watch ESO Live you can see the passion each developer had for the game.
If there is a bone to be picked it would be with whoever handle resource allocation, but we also don't know who they report to and what restrictions they have etc.

I guess I am just more relaxed with things since I took my break, the game is what it is and I take it for that.

Nothing is ever perfect, more so in a gaming landscape full of constant change and tweaks. Each new potential fix may cause three new issues. Doesn't mean they don't try to come as close to perfect as possible. That makes me relaxed about it as well.

Zacchaeus

Any news on Murkmire?