I Had a Realization About ESO

Ch4mpTW

As much as I am obsessed with optimizing my build, and having this and that best-in-slot piece of gear — I genuinely missed questing. And I'm incredibly pleased with the quality of quests, and amount of quests given with Morrowind.

I'm starting to realize that not everything is about who has the highest DPS time, and trying to impress this and that GM or guild. In fact, you don't even need a guild to enjoy ESO. Sure guilds can be a QOL improvement, but it can also drag you down and or stress you out.

It's about really just playing the game for fun. Something that I had forgotten to do in ESO. Who cares if you're a "casual", or someone who wants to take it easy? And why belittle those with that preference? Just worry about yourself, and do you. And you will be at a much better place emotionally and mentally.

Balamoor

Well said

Publius_Scipio

I do have to say that with Morrowind I genuinely enjoy running around Vvardenfell, entering all the houses and buildings, looking around, etc.

jeevin

For me Eso is much better when you stop and smell the flowers, read books and take in what the game world is telling you.

Jollygoodusername

Welcome to my humble world of IDGAF. It's a magical place isn't it? Well, when it's not disconnecting or at 999+ latency
I'm glad someone else gets this kind of pleasure from just roaming the land and becoming immersed!

Graydon

I'm casual and have never worried about being belittled or teased.

It's just a game. Entertaining and very Enjoyable.

idk

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

As much as I am obsessed with optimizing my build, and having this and that best-in-slot piece of gear — I genuinely missed questing. And I'm incredibly pleased with the quality of quests, and amount of quests given with Morrowind.

I'm starting to realize that not everything is about who has the highest DPS time, and trying to impress this and that GM or guild. In fact, you don't even need a guild to enjoy ESO. Sure guilds can be a QOL improvement, but it can also drag you down and or stress you out.

It's about really just playing the game for fun. Something that I had forgotten to do in ESO. Who cares if you're a "casual", or someone who wants to take it easy? And why belittle those with that preference? Just worry about yourself, and do you. And you will be at a much better place emotionally and mentally.

Who are you and what did you do with Ch4mp? LOl. Yes, the questing is pretty good.

KingYogi415

I hate questing but morrowind main story is quite nice.

Cheers!

StormWylf

Yep, stop and smell the pixel roses. I completely agree with most of those that have posted above.

tinythinker

Well, I'm a completionist but not competitive enough with gear/skill to get top scores in any PvE or PvP leaderboard, so I just try to enjoy the attempts at things even when they fail spectacularly. (I don't succeed at that as much as I would like, but fun/patient people who know what they are doing and like to help make it much better.)

F7sus4

The DLC questlines like Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood on top of Morrowind are interesting and well thought-out. The base-game questlines, however, simply beg to be spam-clicked through.

Inarre

Agreed. Maybe not all of us, but a lot of us came from other elder scrolls games. We had no one to impress but ourselves, and nothing to accomplish but stealing swords from the fighters guilds, summoning dremora with sanguine rose to watch him insult people, and our builds were (at least mine was) a nonsensical mix of ice damage, sneaking and pet summoning. I wasted hours just doing nothing but exploring and messing with npcs.

Games are more fun when you let yourself have fun. Its a good reminder to stop and smell the columbine.

Grunim

Yeah I've been really into puttering around in recent weeks rather than doing something to be efficient with my characters. I am randomly doing a quest here and there, roaming and picking up things, stopping and looking at how objects are arranged at a spot and imagining what unfolded there, etc etc.

Yup, been into getting immersed in a mostly solo sort of way. I just make sure I do a daily riding lesson on my two new warden characters and otherwise I let the muse guide me.

Apologies to friends who might miss me in PvP...

Ch4mpTW

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

As much as I am obsessed with optimizing my build, and having this and that best-in-slot piece of gear — I genuinely missed questing. And I'm incredibly pleased with the quality of quests, and amount of quests given with Morrowind.

I'm starting to realize that not everything is about who has the highest DPS time, and trying to impress this and that GM or guild. In fact, you don't even need a guild to enjoy ESO. Sure guilds can be a QOL improvement, but it can also drag you down and or stress you out.

It's about really just playing the game for fun. Something that I had forgotten to do in ESO. Who cares if you're a "casual", or someone who wants to take it easy? And why belittle those with that preference? Just worry about yourself, and do you. And you will be at a much better place emotionally and mentally.

Who are you and what did you do with Ch4mp? LOl. Yes, the questing is pretty good.

I'm still Ch4mp. I'm still a proud AD native, and teacher of the "Bruh language". It's just that from taking a true break from ESO, and returning to it to experience the Morrowind chapter really opened my eyes to a lot of the trickery and smoke and mirrors plaguing ESO...

I guess you can say that I have the "been there; done that mentality" now. I have posted up with the "elites", and both zerged and raided with them. I've been liked and loved by many, and of course hated and strongly disliked by many. I probably still am. And you know what? That's perfectly fine. For once I just don't care how others view me on this game. I don't care how people view me on these forums. And for the longest time, I had a very hard time with keeping up an image that just a lie at the end of the day. And that lie was that me having this and that accolade actually meant something at the end of the day. When the truth was that it truly doesn't mean much to others. Or rather it shouldn't, and only should matter to me. And me me alone. And I couldn't accept that. I had to flex my ego and this and that, when ultimately it doesn't mean a damn thing.

At the end of the day, the meta is going to shift and evolve whether we all want it to or not. And that's for PvE or PvP. No one's build is truly theirs and unique. No matter how much people would like to believe how much a special snowflake they are, not really. In fact, you're better off just going with what you like and just be cool as it all comes full circle.

Case and point pet builds. I've been running pet builds since I've been playing ESO years ago. I never rode the meta train for pets, because I've not got off the original pet train. I been a huge fan of @Thelon and his works. Always gave the man his props too. People out here literally bandwagoned pet builds, because they heard from this and that streamer or trial raider how it's the meta. And they flocked to it like birds. Bringing up posts how this and that person got this amount of DPS, and how it's so good this and that — but where were those people when Necropotence wasn't scaled to CP160? Oh right, they were the Sorcs with DW and Destro. And even then the vast majority of people don't even know the history behind running DW on a Mag build, and just did it due to what they had been parroted. Now that PetSorcsl wings get clipped, people wanna act funny and act like pet builds are dead and are no longer viable. Lol. If you're a true PetSorc, to hell with the extras. You'll use a pet build, whether you feel it's meta or not. Simply because it's your preference. People been out and about solo'ing content with PetSorcs, before this and that guy bragged about how they solo'd this and that in the Imperial City DLC. @Thelon was solo'ing VAA before people left PvP. Lol.

And speaking on PvP, I realized a class is only as overpowered as the person who uses it is. People will say such and such class or skill needs a nerf. But why? Because you are dying to it repeatedly? But on the flip side of things, if you dominating with said skill and or class it's fine. Lol.

Case and point are Nightblades. People will swear out how Nightblades are so unloved and how underpowered they are compared to other classes. And yet, Nightblades make up the vast majority in PvP. All the while being considered the best for farming and learning VMA with. Now wait a minute. This is a class that people claim is dead and so weak. So how could it be doing those things previously mentioned? And why is it so highly suggested and played in a PvP environment, IF it is so weak? See what I mean?

Questing is the only thing that impresses me nowadays. The scenery amazes me. And the environment even with its glitches and bugs still makes me smile, and relaxes me. And at the end of the day, isn't the ENTIRE point of a video game entertainment and relaxation...? Seems I was playing ESO entirely wrong up until recently. And I have no shame in admitting that.

Ilithyania

Good Point. In Morrowind I actually listen to all dialog and read all notes/letters.

makerofthings

I appreciate the OP's post and I agree. Thank you for this sentiment for these forums have become so negative, it is nice to have a ray of sunshine. And now back to all the spleen venting.

LukosCreyden

Indeed. Me and my friend usually play on headset together with party chat on ps4. However, whenever new content releases, I always go alone. I love questing in new zones, all the characters and stories are fantastic. This is why I never understand why new players want to grind to level 50 / cp 160 straight away. Why do they do that? They're missing most of the game!

Judas Helviaryn

Who are you, and what have you done with @Ch4mpTW?

Seems I'm not the first to wonder this.

DaveMoeDee

LukosCreyden wrote: »

Indeed. Me and my friend usually play on headset together with party chat on ps4. However, whenever new content releases, I always go alone. I love questing in new zones, all the characters and stories are fantastic. This is why I never understand why new players want to grind to level 50 / cp 160 straight away. Why do they do that? They're missing most of the game!

Such an odd thing. Some people talk like the game is made for "end-game" players since it is an MMO, yet ZOS clearly focuses on the voice acting and the story lines. It doesn't see like they consider quests just leveling fodder.

Kesstryl

I totally agree with the OP, and I'm one of those who listens to the quest dialogue and doesn't click through it (at least on the first time, and often will listen again on another alt if it's a quest I really liked). As for guilds, no you don't need one, but there are guilds that are casual and socially fun, and don't care about metas and number crunching. Look at my siggy if you are looking for one that happens to be enthusiastic about player housing.

Betsararie

ZOS somehow managed to make the quests elicit a strong emotional response, in so many you're called upon to make some vital decision which results in someone dying (or something like that), and sometimes the decision will stick with you for a little while.

Overall, I like the questing a lot and do it for achievements. It's fun in small doses.

SantieClaws

Ah hah welcome to the Tamriel Guild of Flower Pickers and Random Wanderers.

It is good yes. Perhaps you might even give fishing a go?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Enslaved

So even Champ is happy with questing in Vvardenfell. So am I, the notorious QQ scrublord.

charlie_delta

I found having different characters opened up the game for me. Sometimes I just really enjoy playing my non meta two handed dk duder. I find it fun running around charging and smashing mobs with the big power hits.

I rolled a warden but am just doing riding training while waiting for the morrowind masses to pass through. I'll take it slow, read the dialogs and appreciate the content. Kind of like enjoying a fine wine.

Ch4mpTW

charlie_delta wrote: »

I found having different characters opened up the game for me. Sometimes I just really enjoy playing my non meta two handed dk duder. I find it fun running around charging and smashing mobs with the big power hits.

I rolled a warden but am just doing riding training while waiting for the morrowind masses to pass through. I'll take it slow, read the dialogs and appreciate the content. Kind of like enjoying a fine wine.

That's what I found out. Like while I have my main (PetSorc), and I have characters that are all about min-maxing and what not — when I paused for a moment and just made what I liked? The game got dramatically better. When I just wanted to do questing, farming, fishing, exploring, etc. The game got more addicting. Yet on the flip side of things, a single run through VMA will make me take a break from ESO for a few hours usually. Funny how that works. Lol.

Belidos

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

As much as I am obsessed with optimizing my build, and having this and that best-in-slot piece of gear — I genuinely missed questing. And I'm incredibly pleased with the quality of quests, and amount of quests given with Morrowind.

I'm starting to realize that not everything is about who has the highest DPS time, and trying to impress this and that GM or guild. In fact, you don't even need a guild to enjoy ESO. Sure guilds can be a QOL improvement, but it can also drag you down and or stress you out.

It's about really just playing the game for fun. Something that I had forgotten to do in ESO. Who cares if you're a "casual", or someone who wants to take it easy? And why belittle those with that preference? Just worry about yourself, and do you. And you will be at a much better place emotionally and mentally.

That can be said for pretty much any MMO, far too many people concentrate on min/maxing, or being the biggest and best, and they don't stop and actually enjoy the game, it's not surprising there are more and more cases of gaming stress lately.

FloppyTouch

I brought this up in many threads in the past this game is more then Just pvp pve BiS grind so much to do and sometimes it's fun to turn of guild chat area chat and just enjoy it

Huyen

The whole world seems to revolve around competition the last couple of years. And sadly it has come to online games as well. Just look at all the online competitions, and all the major gaming-events, like for Heartstone, WoW-arena, Starcraft II, Overwacht, Quake etc. The fun is being taken out of playing games, because everyone wants to be better then the other players.

Yarlenzey

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

As much as I am obsessed with optimizing my build, and having this and that best-in-slot piece of gear — I genuinely missed questing. And I'm incredibly pleased with the quality of quests, and amount of quests given with Morrowind.

I'm starting to realize that not everything is about who has the highest DPS time, and trying to impress this and that GM or guild. In fact, you don't even need a guild to enjoy ESO. Sure guilds can be a QOL improvement, but it can also drag you down and or stress you out.

It's about really just playing the game for fun. Something that I had forgotten to do in ESO. Who cares if you're a "casual", or someone who wants to take it easy? And why belittle those with that preference? Just worry about yourself, and do you. And you will be at a much better place emotionally and mentally.

At this point I feel that I must issue the following demands:

• Read the ToS
• Can I have your stuff?
• TLA STAMPRCK nDDS FFS GFY BLAH GNGR
• and stuff

Oh yeah, this person changed me into a newt. Wood floats.

MLGProPlayer

Yep. Quests can be a nice break from grinding. I just wish the content was more challenging.

FloppyTouch

Yarlenzey wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

As much as I am obsessed with optimizing my build, and having this and that best-in-slot piece of gear — I genuinely missed questing. And I'm incredibly pleased with the quality of quests, and amount of quests given with Morrowind.

I'm starting to realize that not everything is about who has the highest DPS time, and trying to impress this and that GM or guild. In fact, you don't even need a guild to enjoy ESO. Sure guilds can be a QOL improvement, but it can also drag you down and or stress you out.

It's about really just playing the game for fun. Something that I had forgotten to do in ESO. Who cares if you're a "casual", or someone who wants to take it easy? And why belittle those with that preference? Just worry about yourself, and do you. And you will be at a much better place emotionally and mentally.

At this point I feel that I must issue the following demands:

• Read the ToS
• Can I have your stuff?
• TLA STAMPRCK nDDS FFS GFY BLAH GNGR
• and stuff

Oh yeah, this person changed me into a newt. Wood floats.

A newt you say?