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Nightwiish
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UPDATE: Just tested this together with @OdinForge (big props for helping me test it). On his end animations look normal. Both Wrecking Blows are visible. It appears the animation onlY bug on players client.
Edited by Nightwiish on June 16, 2017 2:25PM UPDATE: Just tested this together with @OdinForge (big props for helping me test it). On his end animations look normal. Both Wrecking Blows are visible. It appears the animation onlY bug on players client.
@loki220
Nighwtiish - Stam DK
Nighwtiish - Stam DK
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Avran_Sylt✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wait, how the hell were you able to fire off two uppercuts at nearly the same time? Aint it got a cast time of 1 second?Edited by Avran_Sylt on June 7, 2017 12:22AM2 -
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✭Also, question about your last clip, was that just two uppercuts or was there an executioner in there?Edited by Avran_Sylt on June 7, 2017 12:27AM0 -
Nightwiish✭✭✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »Also, question about your last clip, was that just two uppercuts or was there an executioner in there?
ahhhh so many questions and so little time
Two Dizzying Swing (can also do Wrecking Blow)Edited by Nightwiish on June 7, 2017 12:30AM@loki220
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Nightwiish✭✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »Pretty sure that can't be working as intended.
This is how all the guys like Kodi, Feng, Jules, Chief, etc play
I am not sure if it is intended or not but if you are not weaving like this you have no chance in pvp...@loki220
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GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nightwiish wrote: »GrumpyDuckling wrote: »Pretty sure that can't be working as intended.
This is how all the guys like Kodi, Feng, Jules, Chief, etc play
I am not sure if it is intended or not but if you are not weaving like this you have no chance in pvp...
Don't know who they are, but this is my logic: If ZOS put a 1 second cast time on Uppercut, then I don't think a player is supposed to be able to have it hit twice, that quickly.0 -
Nightwiish✭✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »Nightwiish wrote: »GrumpyDuckling wrote: »Pretty sure that can't be working as intended.
This is how all the guys like Kodi, Feng, Jules, Chief, etc play
I am not sure if it is intended or not but if you are not weaving like this you have no chance in pvp...
Don't know who they are, but this is my logic: If ZOS put a 1 second cast time on Uppercut, then I don't think a player is supposed to be able to have it hit twice, that quickly.
It is not just Uppercut. Same applies for any ability that has a cast time. Jabs for example will produce a similar macro slice.
Technically the cast time is still there. It still takes 2.0 seconds to get 2 Uppercuts off. The only thing is that the first Uppercut animation is cut.Edited by Nightwiish on June 7, 2017 3:00AM@loki220
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Nightwiish✭✭✭gap closer, skill+block (ani-cancel), right?
It is a bit more than that
Gap closer >
Que Medium Weave just before you hit and release just after you hit >
Que First Wrecking Blow immediately when medium weave swing animation happens >
Que Second Medium Weave >
Que Second Wrecking Blow@loki220
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✭✭✭✭Do you have Combat Metrics?
Would be lovely to see the timeline on the casts for those. I suspect it would shed a lot more light, as I'm guessing that's bugged in a big way.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
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Nightwiish✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Do you have Combat Metrics?
Would be lovely to see the timeline on the casts for those. I suspect it would shed a lot more light, as I'm guessing that's bugged in a big way.
I can download it and make another cideo tonight when I get home from work.
What is interesting to note that I can carry this animation de-sync throughout the whole fight and the enemy never knows what is hitting them at all. I suspect it has to do with getting ahead of the animation cycle by inputting skills at a specific time and interval.@loki220
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Asmael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTiB_F3vG_A
And because it's not very visible in the OP's video, but yeah, there's still a cast time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJ91nRKFe0
We can see the cast time for WB in the middle of da screen.
No ETA for a fix ;_;PC EU - Zahraji of the Void, aka "Kitty", the fluffiest salmon genocider in town.
Poke @AsmaeI (last letter is uppercase "i") on PC EU or Asmael#9325 on Discord and receive a meow today.5 -
Nightwiish✭✭✭The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
And because it's not very visible in the OP's video, but yeah, there's still a cast time:
We can see the cast time for WB in the middle of da screen.
No ETA for a fix ;_;
Nm...Edited by Nightwiish on June 7, 2017 9:25PM@loki220
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br0steen✭✭✭✭Nightwiish wrote: »The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
And because it's not very visible in the OP's video, but yeah, there's still a cast time:
We can see the cast time for WB in the middle of da screen.
No ETA for a fix ;_;
What we need to all understand is that, especially in the Fengrush video, this is not something that is produced by lag but is something intentionally produced. It looks like lag and these guys play it off like lag but it isn't...
Lol the fengrush video you show here isn't intentional, most of the time macro slices happen unintentionally. Obviously it can be done intentionally, shown on the video you first posted. I don't know if I would go so far to say "thats what all streamers do and that's the only reason they're good".
Idk maybe ask the man himself, got an opinion @FENGRUSH ?2 -
Nightwiish✭✭✭Nightwiish wrote: »The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
And because it's not very visible in the OP's video, but yeah, there's still a cast time:
We can see the cast time for WB in the middle of da screen.
No ETA for a fix ;_;
What we need to all understand is that, especially in the Fengrush video, this is not something that is produced by lag but is something intentionally produced. It looks like lag and these guys play it off like lag but it isn't...
Lol the fengrush video you show here isn't intentional, most of the time macro slices happen unintentionally. Obviously it can be done intentionally, shown on the video you first posted. I don't know if I would go so far to say "thats what all streamers do and that's the only reason they're good".
Idk maybe ask the man himself, got an opinion @FENGRUSH ?
As soon as the Crit Rush animation got stuck he knew that the skills he was queueing up would eventually go off because that is what happens when the Crit Rush animation does't get stuck, which is often the case. I just watched his stream last night running proc sets and still weaving like this one shotting fools left and right...
Also, I never said that this is the only reason they are good. A lot of practice, basic understanding of animation cancel, resource management, awareness of your surroundings, etc all play a role in it. However, there is a HUGE advantage to be gained weaving like this and the opponents don't even have a chance to react...Edited by Nightwiish on June 7, 2017 1:03PM@loki220
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FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nightwiish wrote: »The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
And because it's not very visible in the OP's video, but yeah, there's still a cast time:
We can see the cast time for WB in the middle of da screen.
No ETA for a fix ;_;
What we need to all understand is that, especially in the Fengrush video, this is not something that is produced by lag but is something intentionally produced. It looks like lag and these guys play it off like lag but it isn't...
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Nightwiish✭✭✭Nightwiish wrote: »Nightwiish wrote: »The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
And because it's not very visible in the OP's video, but yeah, there's still a cast time:
We can see the cast time for WB in the middle of da screen.
No ETA for a fix ;_;
What we need to all understand is that, especially in the Fengrush video, this is not something that is produced by lag but is something intentionally produced. It looks like lag and these guys play it off like lag but it isn't...
Lol the fengrush video you show here isn't intentional, most of the time macro slices happen unintentionally. Obviously it can be done intentionally, shown on the video you first posted. I don't know if I would go so far to say "thats what all streamers do and that's the only reason they're good".
Idk maybe ask the man himself, got an opinion @FENGRUSH ?
As soon as the Crit Rush animation got stuck he knew that the skills he was queueing up would eventually go off because that is what happens when the Crit Rush animation does't get stuck, which is often not the case. I just watched his stream last night running proc sets and still weaving like this one shotting fools left and right...Nightwiish wrote: »The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
And because it's not very visible in the OP's video, but yeah, there's still a cast time:
We can see the cast time for WB in the middle of da screen.
No ETA for a fix ;_;
What we need to all understand is that, especially in the Fengrush video, this is not something that is produced by lag but is something intentionally produced. It looks like lag and these guys play it off like lag but it isn't...
Hi @FENGRUSH big fan
Sarcasm aside, can you deny though this is something you know of and use frequently? Not the actual video where the animation got bugged for a long time but in general gameplay? I don't personally think this is against the rules of the game as you can do it rather easily.@loki220
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FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nightwiish wrote: »Nightwiish wrote: »Nightwiish wrote: »The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
And because it's not very visible in the OP's video, but yeah, there's still a cast time:
We can see the cast time for WB in the middle of da screen.
No ETA for a fix ;_;
What we need to all understand is that, especially in the Fengrush video, this is not something that is produced by lag but is something intentionally produced. It looks like lag and these guys play it off like lag but it isn't...
Lol the fengrush video you show here isn't intentional, most of the time macro slices happen unintentionally. Obviously it can be done intentionally, shown on the video you first posted. I don't know if I would go so far to say "thats what all streamers do and that's the only reason they're good".
Idk maybe ask the man himself, got an opinion @FENGRUSH ?
As soon as the Crit Rush animation got stuck he knew that the skills he was queueing up would eventually go off because that is what happens when the Crit Rush animation does't get stuck, which is often not the case. I just watched his stream last night running proc sets and still weaving like this one shotting fools left and right...Nightwiish wrote: »The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
And because it's not very visible in the OP's video, but yeah, there's still a cast time:
We can see the cast time for WB in the middle of da screen.
No ETA for a fix ;_;
What we need to all understand is that, especially in the Fengrush video, this is not something that is produced by lag but is something intentionally produced. It looks like lag and these guys play it off like lag but it isn't...
Hi @FENGRUSH big fan
Sarcasm aside, can you deny though this is something you know of and use frequently? Not the actual video where the animation got bugged for a long time but in general gameplay? I don't personally think this is against the rules of the game as you can do it rather easily.
Hello Nightwish - this isnt something that is intentionally done. You get stuck in a gap closer animation. Havent seen it happen much or at all since morrowind, but maybe because Im only in BGs.1 -
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Hello Nightwish - this isnt something that is intentionally done. You get stuck in a gap closer animation. Havent seen it happen much or at all since morrowind, but maybe because Im only in BGs.
Ah alright then. Maybe I was mistaken. Not the Crit Rush animation getting stuck but Macro slice like the video I posted can be done quite easily and intentionally.
@loki220
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Moncho11✭✭✭This now happening on Xbox one with DW. You can do LA-surprise attack-LA-surprise attack-LA- killer's blade and all you see is LA dmg and animation. Once you pause for a sec or bar swap you'll get the animation of last skill and all the damage at once including procs that happened during that whole sequence. BTW you can empty your stamina bar doing this. Tested on training dummy and could stack 5-8 surprise attacks.3
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✭✭Nightwiish wrote: »
Hello Nightwish - this isnt something that is intentionally done. You get stuck in a gap closer animation. Havent seen it happen much or at all since morrowind, but maybe because Im only in BGs.
Ah alright then. Maybe I was mistaken. Not the Crit Rush animation getting stuck but Macro slice like the video I posted can be done quite easily and intentionally.
You weren't mistaken.8 -
Nightwiish✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »Nightwiish wrote: »
Hello Nightwish - this isnt something that is intentionally done. You get stuck in a gap closer animation. Havent seen it happen much or at all since morrowind, but maybe because Im only in BGs.
Ah alright then. Maybe I was mistaken. Not the Crit Rush animation getting stuck but Macro slice like the video I posted can be done quite easily and intentionally.
You weren't mistaken.
I know
@loki220
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rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The targeted player perspective can be seen below:
That's likely not what you are thinking it is.
It's his client smoothing an animation on a charging player that he didn't have accurate positioning on. It happens regularly on stealthed players charging... but any case where your client doesn't have accurate position on a player (due to lag, on either end or fast moving players or that seam between sectors on a server) it will draw like that.
Reality is that player was more likely than not in range to charge on his screen.
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