Warden race

Randomchaos

So I'm sure it has been discussed and if so sorry for yet another post
HOWEVER I haven't seen
So what is the "best" race for the warden class
Seems to be a magika based as in high elf or Brenton ?

Chelister

Altmer (High elf) better for offensive
Breton better for defensive
Dunmer (Night elf) better if your build is around dealing fire damage
That's all for magicka builds

goldnugget

high elf is the best race

BigBragg

Heals go Breton. DPS go Altmer.

notimetocare

Nord. Anyone who doesnt agree is lying to you

paulsimonps

BigBragg wrote: »

Heals go Breton. DPS go Altmer.

For Warden healers I would highly recommend Argonians.

Tryxus

Breton for defense and sustain
Altmer for offense and regen
Argonian for stronger heals

Tostiee

paulsimonps wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

Heals go Breton. DPS go Altmer.

For Warden healers I would highly recommend Argonians.

May I ask why? I am still deciding whether I should make mine a argonian or breton. @paulsimonps

paulsimonps

Tostiee wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

Heals go Breton. DPS go Altmer.

For Warden healers I would highly recommend Argonians.

May I ask why? I am still deciding whether I should make mine a argonian or breton. @paulsimonps

Wardens have good buffs into Healing Done and so does the Argonians. And so they can get really strong heals that way, especially when they use Minor Lifesteal, a very underrated and strong HoT for the whole raid team. Minor Lifesteal can only be buffed with healing done.

And in the new Trial where everyone is taking a lot of AoE Dmg the extra health and resistance for poison (first boss of Halls) helps you stay up better to keep everyone else alive.

And again about the healing done. Some will say magicka and spell damage is better and in some situations it is but if your Healing is high enough then healing done which is a percentage buff will be stronger. And even using just meta healing sets this can be done with ease.

Oh and the potion passive is also good for helping with sustain in its own way, great for when your magicka gets drained in Halls or when you have to drop it low on purpose in SO.

phaneub17_ESO

I'm using Khajiit for Stamina and Altmer for Magicka on my Wardens. I also named them Druids so my Khajiit is like a Feral Kitty who happens to summon a Bear and uses a variety of bleed damage in his arsenal. Sadly my Altmer cannot transform into an Owlbear or Tree, otherwise it would fit perfectly!

Tostiee

paulsimonps wrote: »

Tostiee wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

Heals go Breton. DPS go Altmer.

For Warden healers I would highly recommend Argonians.

May I ask why? I am still deciding whether I should make mine a argonian or breton. @paulsimonps

Wardens have good buffs into Healing Done and so does the Argonians. And so they can get really strong heals that way, especially when they use Minor Lifesteal, a very underrated and strong HoT for the whole raid team. Minor Lifesteal can only be buffed with healing done.

And in the new Trial where everyone is taking a lot of AoE Dmg the extra health and resistance for poison (first boss of Halls) helps you stay up better to keep everyone else alive.

And again about the healing done. Some will say magicka and spell damage is better and in some situations it is but if your Healing is high enough then healing done which is a percentage buff will be stronger. And even using just meta healing sets this can be done with ease.

Oh and the potion passive is also good for helping with sustain in its own way, great for when your magicka gets drained in Halls or when you have to drop it low on purpose in SO.

Thank you for the answer!

Morgul667

Altmer for dps but i went breton cause it can dps heal and tank, it is more polyvalent

BigBragg

paulsimonps wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

Heals go Breton. DPS go Altmer.

For Warden healers I would highly recommend Argonians.

I'm running an Argonian Warden tank. The race does pair well with the class.

Anhedonie

Breton is garbage for anything. For healing it's argonian. For sustain it's either argonian, or altmer. For damage it's altmer.
Breton doesn't even provide noticeable damage reduction nor sustain. His cost reduction is garbage and people suggesting it don't know *** or just trolling.

MLGProPlayer

Anhedonie wrote: »

Breton is garbage for anything. For healing it's argonian. For sustain it's either argonian, or altmer. For damage it's altmer.
Breton doesn't even provide noticeable damage reduction nor sustain. His cost reduction is garbage and people suggesting it don't know *** or just trolling.

Bretons also get +10% max magicka, which is huge, especially with the sustain nerfs. Argonians make good tanks, but Bretons are unquestionably better healers.

TheRealPotoroo

I went Bosmer stamden. I love having this little wood elf running around with a 2H battle axe whomping daedra.

paulsimonps

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

Breton is garbage for anything. For healing it's argonian. For sustain it's either argonian, or altmer. For damage it's altmer.
Breton doesn't even provide noticeable damage reduction nor sustain. His cost reduction is garbage and people suggesting it don't know *** or just trolling.

Bretons also get +10% max magicka, which is huge, especially with the sustain nerfs. Argonians make good tanks, but Bretons are unquestionably better healers.

"unquestionably"? No not really, as said there comes a point where healing done gives more. So depending on how your healer is set up and in the situation with a warden, argonian can be better. They are both good but I think personally that Argonians wins on the Warden but Breton on the templars

ValkynSketha

If you are not min/max race choice does not matter, however if you are, then:
Altmer/Dunmer for magdd
Redguard/bosmer/Khajjit for stamdd
Argonian for tank
Argonian/Altmer/Breton for healer

agegarton

I've been desperate to build a useful hybrid in this game forever. I think the Warden might be the one. So, I'm trying a Nord Warden, who will be both Mag and Stam.

Of course it won't bloody well work, but I'll have fun trying anyway

Gan Xing

agegarton wrote: »

I've been desperate to build a useful hybrid in this game forever. I think the Warden might be the one. So, I'm trying a Nord Warden, who will be both Mag and Stam.

Of course it won't bloody well work, but I'll have fun trying anyway

I have a dunmer hybrid. She has been doing well, but I always have the feeling that she is missing something that can make her that much more... (mind you I still don't have undaunted passives)...

Malmai

Warden is imo best build around Magicka. I would take Altmer but Breton is also good choice...

Chufu

Don't hear to all the other players.... Orc was and is the best race for everything!

max_only

Bosmer.

BIS for cuteness.

yukikenzo

People who choose Argonian as a healer either have sustain issues or like lizards. Just because their passive states x% more healing done doesn't mean its better. Heals are based on max Magicka and Spell Damage. Healing done comes only on top of that which you can get from the Blessed CP anyway. Breton and Altmer gain 10% more max Magicka while Argonian only gain 3%. Breton has more Spell Resistance and cost reduction, Altmer got more Magicka Regen. In the end people choose whatever they prefer.

Sixsixsix161

Keep in mind that your magicka directly increases your staff and abilities damage. So, more magicka = more damage.

So, for a magic caster (magsorc or Warden), I would go high elf, although a Breton does also good with magic (look at their racial).

Good luck.

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OneKhajiitCrimeWave

This one chose an Argonian for the Healer warden, and in 5 light and 2 heavy is tanky enough to run a relic back in battlegrounds with all manner of attacks aimed at this one.... except those sneaky nightblades and that dirty green bear *grumbles*

And this is without any real use of the so called 'Tanky' skill tree (Ice).

Go with Kag's and Seducer early on for a PvP and PvE healer and you'll enjoy it. This one has been having such fun healing the hell out of the guild/randoms in battlegrounds. Happy Healing Walker.

For the DPS Magicka Warden this humble Khajiit chose a Dunmer, as this one has always liked the extra bit of stamina they get, as well as a strong max Magicka.

Valen_Byte

High elf then just throw birds. Done.

TheShadowScout

Eh. Who cares which the best race is? Fu... uhm... forget about chasing the FotM, and go with whatever you have most fun playing!

Hairy nord mountain man who 'adopted' a bear after a night of heavy drinking and some unfortunate mistakes in the dark that he will never speak of no matter how much mead he imbues?

Breton redheaded wyress who likes plants more then people, yet somehow always feels drawn to cities and has a peculiar animosity towards bats for some reason?

Long-bearded altmer druid alchemist, searching for the perfect fortify stamina potion to help his people against imperial invaders?

Dunmeri girl raised by nords and thus using axes and ice magic instead of fire spells, brawling and drinking mead all day, much to the chargrin of her distant relatives?

Big, burly wood orc healer boy who secretly just wants to be a pretty bosmer girl, wear floral dresses and heels, and marry an altmer prince?

Sleek-scaled and possibly part-time lusty argonian treeminder maid out to see the world and freeze some slavers ba... uhm... sensitive body parts off?

Feral khajiit who only came down from his climbing trees and swinging on vines while shouting war cries that sound like a yodelling cat being strangled to save the world from molag bal?

Or make up your own ideas! That's what the game is all about after all, not being able to brag about your big PvPness...

starkerealm

Anhedonie wrote: »

Breton is garbage for anything. For healing it's argonian. For sustain it's either argonian, or altmer. For damage it's altmer.
Breton doesn't even provide noticeable damage reduction nor sustain. His cost reduction is garbage and people suggesting it don't know *** or just trolling.

Oh, I see where you made your mistake. You rolled up a male Breton.

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

I went Bosmer stamden. I love having this little wood elf running around with a 2H battle axe whomping daedra.

Yeah, an Imperial Stamina Warden's been working out for me nicely so far. I still need to get one to cap, though.

Sharee

yukikenzo wrote: »

People who choose Argonian as a healer either have sustain issues or like lizards. Just because their passive states x% more healing done doesn't mean its better. Heals are based on max Magicka and Spell Damage. Healing done comes only on top of that which you can get from the Blessed CP anyway. Breton and Altmer gain 10% more max Magicka while Argonian only gain 3%. Breton has more Spell Resistance and cost reduction, Altmer got more Magicka Regen. In the end people choose whatever they prefer.

Argonians can spec into blessed as well.

All it comes down to is, what provides stronger heals - 7% more magicka, or 5% more healing done? Anything else that influences heals can be gained on an argonian just as well as on another race.

And without any detailed analysis, my gut feeling is that 5% healing done will give better heals than 7% max magicka, simply because max magicka boosts both heals and damage, while healing done only boosts healing, so the latter has to be better at the healing job, assuming racials are balanced overall.

Adenoma

@Valen_Byte , Argonian MagWarden is the PvP master race. Drink immovable pots and you will be able to always have CC breaking stamina. I love mine. The max health is a nice buffer on a shield build and losing 7% max magicka and 10% recovery or whatnot doesn't feel too bad. I still have the damage to burst combo most folks for 60-90% of their HP.