Battlegrounds should be open for everyone (Serious talk ZOS)?

Stovahkiin

Open to everyone

Tandor wrote: »

Once more PvPers have got what they've been clamoring for for ages, and once again now they've got it, they don't like it.

Plus, of course, as it's the additional PvP content that people have been asking for they think they should automatically get it for nothing while new PvE content and a new class should be paid for.

Umm.. actually, no. *Most* of us pvpers just wanted Zeni to fix Cyrodiil. But instead they chose to release battlegrounds in the hopes that people would forget about Cyrodiil and allow Zeni to continue ignoring it. If anything, battlegrounds is just a cop out

Zvorgin

Open to everyone

I personally have no intention of going to battlegrounds. I enjoy Cyrodiil and the randomness of it while also feeling like I'm contributing to the alliances overall goal (granted they have gutted pretty much all the meaning from Cyrodiil).

Battlegrounds feels like a gimmick that doesn't fit in the game and I'm not particularly inclined to support it.

RinaldoGandolphi

Keep battlegrounds *Morrowind only*

Even though I did not buy Morrowind, I don't think the Battlegrounds should be open to anyone.

I'm not entitled to anything I didn't pay for and I'll get BG when I decide to buy the DLC and not until

"The world owes you nothing! You owe yourself!"-Rocky Balboa

Bashev

Open to everyone

If they dont make them free for all at least they have to add 5 free queues per character every day. We need more players. More players more fun.

idk

Keep battlegrounds *Morrowind only*

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Having this locked behind a pay wall is pretty messed up.

Zos made it clear 2 years ago everything added to the game would be locked behind a paywall. Since then there has not been any new content available without some sort of payment required.

Hopefully sooner than later, more will buy in and the queues will pop faster during active times. Those really into PvP and ESO will buy into it since it's a nice change and the designs overall are pretty decent.

Aliniel

Open to everyone

Of course it should be open to everyone. It was promised ages ago and now they ask money for it No, I refuse to support company's greed.

Gargath

Open to everyone

It could be for Morrowind and ESO Plus players only.

leepalmer95

Open to everyone

I'd like for it to be free, but

At the very least put it in the crown store and available for eso+ members. Really wouldn't like it end up as IC an dlocking it behind a big paywall certainly won't help with that.

Rosvira

Open to everyone

Definitely think battlegrounds should be open to everyone, it seems to have a lot of potential to do well for a good while if everyone could access it.

That said, zos likes their money, so even allowing eso+ members access to it would be better.

geonsocal

Open to everyone

imperial city = battlegrounds?

idk

Keep battlegrounds *Morrowind only*

Rosvira wrote: »

Definitely think battlegrounds should be open to everyone, it seems to have a lot of potential to do well for a good while if everyone could access it.

That said, zos likes their money, so even allowing eso+ members access to it would be better.

My employer likes their revenue as well which suites me fine. I like to get paid so I can play this game.

Goshua

Open to everyone

Entirely personal opinion; I felt BG's being locked behind Morrowind nothing more than a soggy slap in the face for pvp players who've put up with Cyrodiil for 2-3 years and all the tedious bollocks that goes on there from both players and servers.

MrSinister213

Open to everyone

More importantly it needs better incentives for Cyrodil zerglings and PvE'ers to participate. On PC NA I was fighting the same 40 people all day, the first day of release. A month from now it will be dead with 15 minute queue times.

BigBragg

Open to everyone

I have been thinking the same thing since February.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/317883/battle-grounds-access/p1

Soleya

Open to everyone

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Having this locked behind a pay wall is pretty messed up.

Zos made it clear 2 years ago everything added to the game would be locked behind a paywall. Since then there has not been any new content available without some sort of payment required.

What's the payment required for homestead?

Eshja

Open to everyone

I bougth Morrowind, but I think it's unfair only us have access to it... If it would be like it's only us for a month or just some time it would be okay, but... it's too important to be a part of chapter.

mechengr7

I think they should do s weekly freeloader night where it's free for just the one day. Might get k people on board too pay for the work they put in.

Mitrenga

Keep battlegrounds *Morrowind only*

Keep it Morrowind only until all issues get fixed.

Niaver

Open to everyone

I don't want to sit in queue for 50m to play 15m.

alephthiago

Open to everyone

Niaver wrote: »

I don't want to sit in queue for 50m to play 15m.

...and end up in a match 2v3v4 lol

Vaoh

Open to everyone

Everything besides Battlegrounds should be part of the "Morrowind" chapter.

Battlegroundsitself would be much healthier if it didn't exclude players who won't cough up $40. (not a problem IC has, since it's cheap and ESO+ covers it)

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Open to everyone

Vaoh wrote: »

Everything besides Battlegrounds should be part of the "Morrowind" chapter.

Battlegroundsitself would be much healthier if it didn't exclude players who won't cough up $40. (not a problem IC has, since it's cheap and ESO+ covers it)

Cant. They needed more in the chapter to pretend it wasn't just a dlc so they could get away with not including it in eso plus.

vpy

Open to everyone

alephthiago wrote: »

I'm aware of the group bug and that you guys are working to release a fix for it, but after day one of the patch what everyone was expecting to be "PVP P*RN" turned out to be very weak and disappointing.
-Big queue times (the purpose of having a few casual quick matches was not achieved as expected).
-Matches with partial teams were almost the rule, 2v3v2 , 4v3v2, 3v3v2 and etc (for all that time in queue you would expect at least full teams).
-Being matched with the same 6-7 people for HOURS.

I think everyone was expecting MUCH more since we have been dying for battlegrounds and before you blame the group bug keep in mind that this should be a fun quick experience for solo players too.

The whole rng with game modes was... hmmm less than ideal, everyone was like "oh god please, i don't want capture the flag again".

If you allow EVERYONE to participate in battlegrounds:

-Queue times will be faster.
-The possibility of creating separate queues for different game types could be implemented, resulting in more fun and better use of niche sets and strategy.
-More publicity, more people streaming and praising the new battlegrounds bringing more players and more life to ESO pvp.
-Less chances of flopping, i don't want battlegrounds to die, more players means more attention from developers, more maps, more fun in general.

What is your opinion on this subject?

Yes it does not make sense to limit a functionality (bg) whose performance is determined by the number of queue for it.
The more the merrier..shorter queue times..better experience for all etc
It should be open to everyone IMHO

Nyladreas

Keep battlegrounds *Morrowind only*

alephthiago wrote: »

I'm aware of the group bug and that you guys are working to release a fix for it, but after day one of the patch what everyone was expecting to be "PVP P*RN" turned out to be very weak and disappointing.
-Big queue times (the purpose of having a few casual quick matches was not achieved as expected).
-Matches with partial teams were almost the rule, 2v3v2 , 4v3v2, 3v3v2 and etc (for all that time in queue you would expect at least full teams).
-Being matched with the same 6-7 people for HOURS.

I think everyone was expecting MUCH more since we have been dying for battlegrounds and before you blame the group bug keep in mind that this should be a fun quick experience for solo players too.

The whole rng with game modes was... hmmm less than ideal, everyone was like "oh god please, i don't want capture the flag again".

If you allow EVERYONE to participate in battlegrounds:

-Queue times will be faster.
-The possibility of creating separate queues for different game types could be implemented, resulting in more fun and better use of niche sets and strategy.
-More publicity, more people streaming and praising the new battlegrounds bringing more players and more life to ESO pvp.
-Less chances of flopping, i don't want battlegrounds to die, more players means more attention from developers, more maps, more fun in general.

What is your opinion on this subject?

Are you people even serious?

Complaining about all these points and player base/pool right off the bat after release?

Are you high? Are you nuts? Are you even for real?

A LOT of people are just leveling their wardens and exploring the land, doing quests and finding new content.

Literally 95% of people who bought morrowind pre-order (thats another thing lmao) didn't even think of BGs whatsoever when they were first logging in.

This entire thread is just sad AF, if you ask me. It shows how small-minded, and short-sighted people truly are. Or just selfish. Dunno.

Very naive to think everyone is just going do dive head first into the Battlegrounds and that it's going to be perfect. A lot of people don't even have any gear to get in there.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

I'd say the choice is to keep BGs Morrowind only or to lock them behind ESO+ for those that don't have Morrowind.

It's just a bad idea to have PvP free. There are some players that only PvP and have zero reason for spending any money on the game after their initial purchase.

So, in the end if Those interested in BGs want further development in PvP then the only choice is to keep them locked behind a paywall.

And this. Unfortunately.

While I'd be happy to make everyone satisfied, it would only hurt the game more in a long run, not to mention if ZOS would remove the paywall, more and more people would start asking about other things made "free" as well.

HOWEVER, I would NOT be against ESO+ Access. That would be a very smart solution imo.

disintegr8

Not that I care as I probably will never use it but seeing the comments here about long queue times, I presume some of you simply want more players to be able to use it to cut down on queue times. If it was open to everyone, would there not be a further cry to limit access to 'experienced' or cp[xxx]+ players only - just like we currently have for say DLC vet dungeons?

I can't see how fixing one issue would not lead to the other.

Sure, being behind a 'pay wall' might make it harder to get full groups and could even force you to accept lower level players (oh no) but if there was an endless supply of players queued, wouldn't we just get back to the old routine of kicking lower level players until someone comes in at a level you are happy with?

I have pre-ordered Morrowind (PS4) but have no interest at this stage for Battlegrounds.