Update: Cyrodil for Mag Sorcs?

Crom_CCCXVI

I read the patch notes, but maybe not closely enough..
Is there a short version someone can spell out for what the future holds for the "shield stacking- frag spamming, destro ult. Mag Sorcs which are 80% of Cyrodil right now?
I can see how other classes are being affected, but maybe i missed the part which will effect the most dominant build in there?

Juhasow

Pirate skeleton nerf , crystal frag nerf , light armor nerf , dark deal nerf , overall resource managment nerf.

Rohamad_Ali

Sorcs are more powerful then ever in Cyrodiil . The nerfs were not proportional to the other classes .

Yuke

The only thing i changed between last patch and this patch was 6:1 light/heavy to 7/7 light. Im even tankier now with the new totally broken defensive CPs.

Magıc

Already QQing I see. Lovely.

grim_tactics

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Sorcs are more powerful then ever in Cyrodiil . The nerfs were not proportional to the other classes .

Doubt that.

Berenhir

grim_tactics wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Sorcs are more powerful then ever in Cyrodiil . The nerfs were not proportional to the other classes .

Doubt that.

You may do so, won't help though.

Pirate Skeleton is just as viable as ever. Sorcs need to switch to full impen, get some health from hakeijo or attribute respec and gold out a regen set (lich, amberplasm, alteration mastery, seducer). They keep full spell damage glyphs because harness magicka does the ressource regeneration for them.

CyrusArya

The reactionary band wagoners will cry cus they can't think for thrnselves, but the ability to perpetually shield stack in a damage build is gone. Unlike other classes, sorcs drop in seconds without shields. A low damage build hurts sorc more than any other class because they have the least sources of sustained damage. Class is strong, but not nearly as much as the forum tears will make it seem.

Eirella

CyrusArya wrote: »

The reactionary band wagoners will cry cus they can't think for thrnselves, but the ability to perpetually shield stack in a damage build is gone. Unlike other classes, sorcs drop in seconds without shields. A low damage build hurts sorc more than any other class because they have the least sources of sustained damage. Class is strong, but not nearly as much as the forum tears will make it seem.

^^^

Trinity_Is_My_Name

Stop the nerf crying for crying out loud. Learn how to play the game and counter your opponents.

Irylia

This ought to be good.

Minalan

Irylia wrote: »

This ought to be good.

I blame you. Last patch you touched everyone in a naughty place and probably sent half the server here screaming about OP Sorcs.

grim_tactics

CyrusArya wrote: »

The reactionary band wagoners will cry cus they can't think for thrnselves, but the ability to perpetually shield stack in a damage build is gone. Unlike other classes, sorcs drop in seconds without shields. A low damage build hurts sorc more than any other class because they have the least sources of sustained damage. Class is strong, but not nearly as much as the forum tears will make it seem.

I'm use to it man.

It's these whiners that ruin every game because they refuse to change their playstyle or adapt to changes and blame the game instead of themselves.

You cant reason with them. You cant make any valid points because they won't listen.

They'd rather burn every class except their own to the ground and call that "balance".

Kas

blocking and dodging heavy attacks will be a huge part of high-quality small scale. this does not work very well as a shield stacker and thus you'll basically allow enemies to regen resources on you pretty well.

Dreyloch

Kas wrote: »

blocking and dodging heavy attacks will be a huge part of high-quality small scale. this does not work very well as a shield stacker and thus you'll basically allow enemies to regen resources on you pretty well.

Wait...small scale? Isn't that what the BG's are for?!?!? That sooooo many people begged and pleaded for!?!?? I'd rather not hear about small scale when it comes to Cyrodiil. You got dueling in the game, you got BG's in the game, you even have I.C.

Please refrain from mentioning small scale anymore with regards to Cyrodiil. It's large scale and will be even more so (because of enormous queues) once we all come back from leveling Wardens rofl.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

Against experienced DC 1vX types mag sorc is normal, but against new players or pugs mag sorc is far too strong thanks to the shields, thats why the green horns keep QQing about mag sorcs, nerf after nerf after nerf. Mag sorcs are way to strong against new players if that makes any sense.

Edziu

CyrusArya wrote: »

The reactionary band wagoners will cry cus they can't think for thrnselves, but the ability to perpetually shield stack in a damage build is gone. Unlike other classes, sorcs drop in seconds without shields. A low damage build hurts sorc more than any other class because they have the least sources of sustained damage. Class is strong, but not nearly as much as the forum tears will make it seem.

did you forgot about any nb since always? on magblade if they drop their light armor shield they are also melted in moment, stamblade take out from cloak same

blockind templar with sheld and dk? umm..did you forget they are just going into more defensive that offensive and they even cant have comparable offensive to sorcs because of much sacriface of this to survivability which was insane before morrowind but now alos in morrowind this blcking isnt that good like before

Ghost-Shot

Magıc wrote: »

Already QQing I see. Lovely.

Making useful posts I see. Lovely.

Magıc

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Already QQing I see. Lovely.

Making useful posts I see. Lovely.

You're in Vehemence. You have no right to talk to me to be honest.

Valencer

Dreyloch wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

blocking and dodging heavy attacks will be a huge part of high-quality small scale. this does not work very well as a shield stacker and thus you'll basically allow enemies to regen resources on you pretty well.

Wait...small scale? Isn't that what the BG's are for?!?!? That sooooo many people begged and pleaded for!?!?? I'd rather not hear about small scale when it comes to Cyrodiil. You got dueling in the game, you got BG's in the game, you even have I.C.

Please refrain from mentioning small scale anymore with regards to Cyrodiil. It's large scale and will be even more so (because of enormous queues) once we all come back from leveling Wardens rofl.

If we're taking this line of thought then we might as well not discuss class/spec balancing at all anymore since Cyrodiil is mostly people zerging each other down anyway. That's depressing.

Derra

Dreyloch wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

blocking and dodging heavy attacks will be a huge part of high-quality small scale. this does not work very well as a shield stacker and thus you'll basically allow enemies to regen resources on you pretty well.

Wait...small scale? Isn't that what the BG's are for?!?!? That sooooo many people begged and pleaded for!?!?? I'd rather not hear about small scale when it comes to Cyrodiil. You got dueling in the game, you got BG's in the game, you even have I.C.

Please refrain from mentioning small scale anymore with regards to Cyrodiil. It's large scale and will be even more so (because of enormous queues) once we all come back from leveling Wardens rofl.

But we enjoy smallscaling in cyro. BGs are boring and weren´t asked for.

Merlin13KAGL

Not a patch in the world that can stop the overdramatization of class numbers in Cyrodiil, nor the fact that set items (which are part of the problem) have never been class specfic, and Ult's that aren't class ult's are also not class specific.

A build and a class are two separate thing. Learn to differentiate.

CyrusArya

Dreyloch wrote: »

Wait...small scale? Isn't that what the BG's are for?!?!? That sooooo many people begged and pleaded for!?!?? I'd rather not hear about small scale when it comes to Cyrodiil. You got dueling in the game, you got BG's in the game, you even have I.C.

Please refrain from mentioning small scale anymore with regards to Cyrodiil. It's large scale and will be even more so (because of enormous queues) once we all come back from leveling Wardens rofl.

Cyrodiil is a sandbox that accommodates all playstyles. I get that you probably get small scaled all the time, so sorry to break it to you...small scale is not going anywhere. As I had predicted before the patch, it's still a completely viable playstyle and as a matter of fact feels much better and more fun than it has in a very long time. I am so excited for my preferred playstyle of 2-4 man groups this patch.

NightbladeMechanics

Dreyloch wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

blocking and dodging heavy attacks will be a huge part of high-quality small scale. this does not work very well as a shield stacker and thus you'll basically allow enemies to regen resources on you pretty well.

Wait...small scale? Isn't that what the BG's are for?!?!? That sooooo many people begged and pleaded for!?!?? I'd rather not hear about small scale when it comes to Cyrodiil. You got dueling in the game, you got BG's in the game, you even have I.C.

Please refrain from mentioning small scale anymore with regards to Cyrodiil. It's large scale and will be even more so (because of enormous queues) once we all come back from leveling Wardens rofl.

BGs are fun, but they will become repetitive in time. You simply cannot substitute the unpredictability of open world.

Don't worry. Just as war has highly trained special ops units operating behind enemy lines, Cyrodiil will forever have elite predatory small groups farming you for AP and these delicious tears.

Potenza

Derra wrote: »

Dreyloch wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

blocking and dodging heavy attacks will be a huge part of high-quality small scale. this does not work very well as a shield stacker and thus you'll basically allow enemies to regen resources on you pretty well.

Wait...small scale? Isn't that what the BG's are for?!?!? That sooooo many people begged and pleaded for!?!?? I'd rather not hear about small scale when it comes to Cyrodiil. You got dueling in the game, you got BG's in the game, you even have I.C.

Please refrain from mentioning small scale anymore with regards to Cyrodiil. It's large scale and will be even more so (because of enormous queues) once we all come back from leveling Wardens rofl.

But we enjoy smallscaling in cyro. BGs are boring and weren´t asked for.

Your wrong, they have been screaming for battlegrounds for years.

Derra

Potenza wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Dreyloch wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

blocking and dodging heavy attacks will be a huge part of high-quality small scale. this does not work very well as a shield stacker and thus you'll basically allow enemies to regen resources on you pretty well.

Wait...small scale? Isn't that what the BG's are for?!?!? That sooooo many people begged and pleaded for!?!?? I'd rather not hear about small scale when it comes to Cyrodiil. You got dueling in the game, you got BG's in the game, you even have I.C.

Please refrain from mentioning small scale anymore with regards to Cyrodiil. It's large scale and will be even more so (because of enormous queues) once we all come back from leveling Wardens rofl.

But we enjoy smallscaling in cyro. BGs are boring and weren´t asked for.

Your wrong, they have been screaming for battlegrounds for years.

Only speaking for our smallscale group.

Satiar

Magıc wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Already QQing I see. Lovely.

Making useful posts I see. Lovely.

You're in Vehemence. You have no right to talk to me to be honest.

Ghost, I told you your scrub PvE rep was bringing us down.

Texas

Sorry I'm late.........didn't hear the call to zerg the forums.....and when I did....some small man group tried to 6v1 gank me on the way here.

Where's Ghost.......Ahhhh I see him.....brb need to go rez him.

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Ghost-Shot

Magıc wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Already QQing I see. Lovely.

Making useful posts I see. Lovely.

You're in Vehemence. You have no right to talk to me to be honest.

LOL! I'm talking to you now, sorry! Who are you btw? Isn't zerg squad an EU guild?

Ghost-Shot

Satiar wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Already QQing I see. Lovely.

Making useful posts I see. Lovely.

You're in Vehemence. You have no right to talk to me to be honest.

Ghost, I told you your scrub PvE rep was bringing us down.

I've let you down fam!

HoloYoitsu

Magıc wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Already QQing I see. Lovely.

Making useful posts I see. Lovely.

You're in Vehemence. You have no right to talk to me to be honest.