Why battleground wont be exciting as it should be on launch

Ihatenightblades

You know those things that you worked so hard for that took over 16 months to earn whats it called .. Oh yeah CHAMPION POINTS.

Who's idea was it to not implement CP?

Either the company knows they suck at balancing CP or they think its what we want. Ima go with the first guess.

The game isnt even balanced to this day so why only take CP out of BG?

Are u assuming that cyrodil is balanced and cp doesnt need to be removed from there? LOL

I dont mind havint a option for no cp bg but can we atleast have a option for CP bg?!

Do something pls ZoS this is unacceptable to many and many like myself and others would appreciate adding CP to bg

Added note - stop saying same answer when you dont have a good one .

Typical noob answer who gets owned in cp pvp xD "stop crying"

leepalmer95

So crying, non cp puts everyone on an even level.

Most of the balance problems were because on cp inbalance, a lot of them go away without it.

I'm sure you'll be fine pvping without your max cp, are you afraid you'll be exposed without cp advantage or something?

Also fyi theres only going to be 1 cp campaign, everything else is gonna be non cp.

Shadow_Viper_vX

It's Fine, Learn to Play

Adapt and Overcome

Stop Crying...

Silly crybaby threads like these just spam the forums with needless clutter and bury threads regarding actual important issues(like lag, fixing broken parts of the game, addressing bugs, etc)...

Curtdogg47

Some people prefer playing with CP others don't! They should have an option for both.

I prefer playing with them. Tired it with out and it's ok, my build worked fine. But I earned them and therefor I want to use them!

Ihatenightblades

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So crying, non cp puts everyone on an even level.

Most of the balance problems were because on cp inbalance, a lot of them go away without it.

I'm sure you'll be fine pvping without your max cp, are you afraid you'll be exposed without cp advantage or something?

Also fyi theres only going to be 1 cp campaign, everything else is gonna be non cp.

No my problem is the developers failing to implement the biggest progression system in the game lol ya guys like you who get owned in pvp because low cp are excited

But guys like me with 10 toons all golded out gear have to regear their toons which took forever in the first place.

So ya its a failure to the hardcore players who like using the CP that took them 2 years to earn .

Ihatenightblades

Curtdogg47 wrote: »

Some people prefer playing with CP others don't! They should have an option for both.

I prefer playing with them. Tired it with out and it's ok, my build worked fine. But I earned them and therefor I want to use them!

Exactly why would they only cater to newbies ?

Shadow_Viper_vX

If you don't like it, don't play it.

It's that simple

Yet another spam thread about a non-issue

/sigh

leepalmer95

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So crying, non cp puts everyone on an even level.

Most of the balance problems were because on cp inbalance, a lot of them go away without it.

I'm sure you'll be fine pvping without your max cp, are you afraid you'll be exposed without cp advantage or something?

Also fyi theres only going to be 1 cp campaign, everything else is gonna be non cp.

No my problem is the developers failing to implement the biggest progression system in the game lol ya guys like you who get owned in pvp because low cp are excited

But guys like me with 10 toons all golded out gear have to regear their toons which took forever in the first place.

So ya its a failure to the hardcore players who like using the CP that took them 2 years to earn .

I have 750+cp...?

I have 8 max characters

NightbladeMechanics

-raises hand-

I have 1k CP and prefer non CP PvP. Also if you have all those characters with golded out gear, you should be able to afford some non CP builds. Sustain builds are cheaper to assemble, and you only need to gold your weapons anyway.

CP enabled stupidly imbalanced survivability until this patch, and now sustain has been strapped and damage increased dramatically.

You don't need constant progression for a game to be fun and rewarding. Let go.

Ihatenightblades

Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »

If you don't like it, don't play it.

It's that simple

Yet another spam thread about a non-issue

/sigh

Hmm? I guess you are failing to realize the failure of zos to be able to implement cp in the modt hyped game mode to come to zos xD

Just keep opening your crown crates you will be fine

leepalmer95

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

-raises hand-

I have 1k cp and prefer non cp PvP. Also if you have all those characters with golded out gear, you should be able to afford some non cp builds. Sustain builds are cheaper to assemble, and you only need to gold your weapons anyway.

You know he hates you right?

Ihatenightblades

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

-raises hand-

I have 1k cp and prefer non cp PvP. Also if you have all those characters with golded out gear, you should be able to afford some non cp builds. Sustain builds are cheaper to assemble, and you only need to gold your weapons anyway.

True BUT if this game makes you have to have 3 different builds for pvp depending on the gamemode no thanks thats a failed implementation periiod

geonsocal

zos and cp balancing =

leepalmer95

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

-raises hand-

I have 1k cp and prefer non cp PvP. Also if you have all those characters with golded out gear, you should be able to afford some non cp builds. Sustain builds are cheaper to assemble, and you only need to gold your weapons anyway.

True BUT if this game makes you have to have 3 different builds for pvp depending on the gamemode no thanks thats a failed implementation periiod

Not really, you don't need 3 builds at all.

NightbladeMechanics

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

-raises hand-

I have 1k cp and prefer non cp PvP. Also if you have all those characters with golded out gear, you should be able to afford some non cp builds. Sustain builds are cheaper to assemble, and you only need to gold your weapons anyway.

True BUT if this game makes you have to have 3 different builds for pvp depending on the gamemode no thanks thats a failed implementation periiod

No, that's PvP gameplay diversity. I embrace it.

Heck, I have something like four dozen refined builds for my main character for different play styles. Why not explore different builds and play styles? Three is weak. Use this as an opportunity to branch out and explore the game.

Ihatenightblades

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

-raises hand-

I have 1k cp and prefer non cp PvP. Also if you have all those characters with golded out gear, you should be able to afford some non cp builds. Sustain builds are cheaper to assemble, and you only need to gold your weapons anyway.

True BUT if this game makes you have to have 3 different builds for pvp depending on the gamemode no thanks thats a failed implementation periiod

No, that's PvP gameplay diversity. I embrace it.

You mean you embrace a company failing to
Balance a game mode that took 2 years to come xD

Keep embracing bro

NightbladeMechanics

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

-raises hand-

I have 1k cp and prefer non cp PvP. Also if you have all those characters with golded out gear, you should be able to afford some non cp builds. Sustain builds are cheaper to assemble, and you only need to gold your weapons anyway.

True BUT if this game makes you have to have 3 different builds for pvp depending on the gamemode no thanks thats a failed implementation periiod

No, that's PvP gameplay diversity. I embrace it.

You mean you embrace a company failing to
Balance a game mode that took 2 years to come xD

Keep embracing bro

Non CP is more balanced than CP.

IcyDeadPeople

If there are tons of people playing battlegrounds, who knows, maybe they will add more game modes and CP option in the future. Right now we just need as many people queuing as possible at all different skill levels in order to end up with fair matches.

Yes, non-CP sustain can be challenging on top of the other recovery nerfs, and I understand the feeling of like, why bother getting XP anymore if CP is useless. But when we have just a small number of total players participating in PVP, this is more fair for all the brand new people who just bought the game for Morrowind as well as returning players who haven't played in a long time etc.

OutLaw_Nynx

Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »

It's Fine, Learn to Play

Adapt and Overcome

Stop Crying...

Silly crybaby threads like these just spam the forums with needless clutter and bury threads regarding actual important issues(like lag, fixing broken parts of the game, addressing bugs, etc)...

You are like a broken record. Half of your posts read like this.

geonsocal

gotta be honest - the irony of @NightbladeMechanics and @Ihatenightblades having a convo is pretty awesome

Brrrofski

I have 12 max characters
850cp
A lot of gold gear

Extremely glad there's no CP. Been playing no CP PvP the last few weeks and it's infinitely more fun. So much of the bs about PvP is removed.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

The entire game will be more exciting when CP is completely removed from ALL PvP activities.

CP ruined balance and ruined the game.

I don't care that you think you earned it. What you earned is cancer and it has gotten iconic class skills nerfed over and over.

HatchetHaro

Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »

It's Fine, Learn to Play

Adapt and Overcome

Stop Crying...

Silly crybaby threads like these just spam the forums with needless clutter and bury threads regarding actual important issues(like lag, fixing broken parts of the game, addressing bugs, etc)...

For goodness' sake, you keep on going at it and belittling people with valid complaints by calling them "crybabies" and telling them to "stop crying".

Why don't you stop crying about other people's perfectly valid opinions and actually post something constructive for once? Right now you're just being a little kid who thinks insulting others is cool.

NightbladeMechanics

geonsocal wrote: »

gotta be honest - the irony of @NightbladeMechanics and @Ihatenightblades having a convo is pretty awesome

Rohamad_Ali

Taking away cp is not going to stop Sorcs , Proc sets and poisons from running all over you . It's just going to make it happen faster . The cp system was toned down tremendously . It's not even close to last patch problems .

MisterBigglesworth

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

But guys like me with 10 toons all golded out gear have to regear their toons which took forever in the first place.

So ya its a failure to the hardcore players who like using the CP that took them 2 years to earn .

Well clearly the solution here is to force the guys with maxed out CP and all golded gear into their own special queue.
Everybody wins.

JWillCHS

I personally do not like the damage increases through the Champion Point System. We do not need nodes in the system that increase direct damage, damage overtime, damage with elemental abilities, etc, etc.

Rikkof

OP,
cp has been replaced with a thing called skill.
You gotta start training that now, as overpowering low cp players is now out of the question.
A very good move by developers.

So, try to invest some points into your skills, it might help you. No, one shot NB strategy aint working anymore either soo..yeah, good dlc imo

Ihatenightblades

Rikkof wrote: »

OP,
cp has been replaced with a thing called skill.
You gotta start training that now, as overpowering low cp players is now out of the question.
A very good move by developers.

So, try to invest some points into your skills, it might help you. No, one shot NB strategy aint working anymore either soo..yeah, good dlc imo

Maybe if you had skills and didnt cry for balance all the time they would have cp in bg but no players like you cant handle the numbers when it comes to making a build that includes CP.

Either that or your a cp 200 that does no damage in cyrodil and cant wait for bg xD

Ihatenightblades

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

-raises hand-

I have 1k cp and prefer non cp PvP. Also if you have all those characters with golded out gear, you should be able to afford some non cp builds. Sustain builds are cheaper to assemble, and you only need to gold your weapons anyway.

True BUT if this game makes you have to have 3 different builds for pvp depending on the gamemode no thanks thats a failed implementation periiod

No, that's PvP gameplay diversity. I embrace it.

Heck, I have something like four dozen refined builds for my main character for different play styles. Why not explore different builds and play styles? Three is weak. Use this as an opportunity to branch out and explore the game.

1 word .. TIME.

Grinding 10 toons is one thing grinding gear for all and what your saying have more than 3 sets for each toon?

How much time do you have on your hands lol?