sugestion to nerf nb one shot gankers

Rikkof · May 2017

Sorry but i dont know where to post this, i ahvent found any sugestion forum, but i think NB ganking and ONE SHOTING from 100% to 0 other players WITHING the stun, without the player having time to even react and break free, not even pushing its shields and whantnot, is bad design
The pvp is about matchign two oponents, more or less on equal grounds, any time that is possible
Dying inside a stun from Night Blade is not pvp, is broken game mechanic and needs to be imediatly looked at, please

Waffennacht · May 2017

Or you can change your build.

Add radiant

Wait for update

Add more health

Etc

Mazbt · May 2017

Cyrodil is not the PVP you want. It's open world it's not fair. Try dueling, or wait for battlegrounds when fights are fair and even.

Xvorg · May 2017

how much health are you running?

GrigorijMalahevich · May 2017

Cyrodiil is a war zone. When was the last time you heard about a fair war? This is the main reason people go to war - because they think they have some kind of advantage over their opponent...

Dying during nightblade stun is not that bad - compared to alchemist+stygian onslaught one shots that restore full ult...

TrueGreenSmoker · May 2017

I use magelight to counter gankers so... Use it

and wait until Morrowind comes

To be honest when you use magelight and a ganker trys to gank you and sees he did no damage to you (because of magelight) they most likely just cloak and run off

Rikkof · May 2017

one shot gankers ruin pvp
this is not pvp, this cant ahrdly be called game....
please developers have look at this, or it will kill teh game
this is my experience also in eso pvp since i started playing this game ( not long ago, i agree, but stil, this doesnt mean i should be killed on 1-2 hits from stealth while stuned)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSACZJXcGAU

ArgonianAustin · May 2017

Aww how cute, you have 19k health you butter ball. You'll die to like a frag.

alephthiago · May 2017

Rikkof wrote: »

one shot gankers ruin pvp
this is not pvp, this cant ahrdly be called game....
please developers have look at this, or it will kill teh game
this is my experience also in eso pvp since i started playing this game ( not long ago, i agree, but stil, this doesnt mean i should be killed on 1-2 hits from stealth while stuned)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSACZJXcGAU

The problem here is clearly the 2handed ulti, its not even a nightblade skill.

Xvorg · May 2017

Rikkof wrote: »

one shot gankers ruin pvp
this is not pvp, this cant ahrdly be called game....
please developers have look at this, or it will kill teh game
this is my experience also in eso pvp since i started playing this game ( not long ago, i agree, but stil, this doesnt mean i should be killed on 1-2 hits from stealth while stuned)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSACZJXcGAU

That's a 1 shooter onslaught build. It's a very powerfu build against potatoes but needs a lot of skill to make it work.

Linken · May 2017

Ah k u made a second post here since the first one in the general forum got filled with answers about what happened to you but you didnt wanna listen to them.

Curtdogg47 · May 2017

Hey I know this guy! From your other whiny ass post in the general section!

Looks like people are still trying to help you, but you still aren't listening!

Kram8ion · May 2017

Why does everyone always think it's that dam nightblade

Lord-Otto · May 2017

Just run in a zerg. Just do it.

It's what those gankers ultimately achieve and want. So they can come to the forums and cry how the zergs force them into gank builds. Because you are supposed to slot Radiant and have 3k impen and 25k health. But asking a ganker to think about a non-cheese build is too much, since "meh like stealthz", although pressing a button to become completely invisible is so not stealth.

It's how the game works, sadly.

Reverb · May 2017

Your salty tears are sustenance for gankers. Stop feeding them, use the counters that people have been suggesting ( in both of your threads about this topic).

Increase your crit and physical resistance. Run radiant magelight. Don't ride a straight path to the battle, go out side of where a ganker would expect you to be. If you're somewhere you know (or suspect) there are gankers dismount and/or pop an immovable potion.

Or, keep feeding them your tears on the forums and in game. Your choice.

kadar · May 2017

You have to realize that the player from the video pays a high price for that extremely situational build. In fact, all it would take is a detect potion to counter his entire build. Provided you're not his primary target-- push potion, collect AP. He's in medium armor, 19k health and no Maj. evasion...

Attacks from ganks are perhaps the most easily countered play style in the entire game. You're choices are either learn to use available techniques/mechanics, or continue to make ill-informed forum posts and ignore the advice of knowledgeable players until the man upstairs gives you what you want.

BohnT · May 2017

Don't try to argue with op he's just ignorant. There is even a skill that ignores the snare by slotting it but he doesn't want to see it because he plays a pure DD in pvp

OP on which server / alliance do you play? maybe I can gank you from time to time

SJD_Phoenix · May 2017

BohnT wrote: »

Don't try to argue with op he's just ignorant. There is even a skill that ignores the snare by slotting it but he doesn't want to see it because he plays a pure DD in pvp
OP on which server / alliance do you play? maybe I can gank you from time to time

I'll have a piece too. He sounds like free AP to me

THEDKEXPERIENCE · May 2017

My build would break the OPs brain. It's essentially built to counter as many things as possible that I have seen over the years in Cyrodiil.

The OP, rather, has admitted (in the now closed thread) that he wears green gear and started playing a month ago.

The analogy I used was he's trying to beat The Golden State Warriors using a wheelchair basketball team only by demanding that the NBA lower the rims to 4 feet high. He's even doubling down on the ridiculousness by refusing to use LeBron on his team. Love it.

deepseamk20b14_ESO · May 2017

People had some decent points but here is the MOST obvious (to me)...STOP TAKING THE MOST OBVIOUS ROUTES. Seriously. You've obviously been ganked enough to get angry and post on the forums. You think you would of learned by now where most gankers hide. Not taking direct routes doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to get where you are going. Approaching a bridge? No problem! Get off horse and sneak. Approaching gate? No problem! Get off horse sneak.

C'mon people....we all b**** and moan about this game and what needs to be nerfed next and when ZoS does something about it we just complain more. I know I can't tell you to L2P (been banned before for it) but please, I implore you to try and figure out other avenues of approach before asking for a GD nerf!

tonemd · May 2017

Xvorg wrote: »

Rikkof wrote: »

one shot gankers ruin pvp
this is not pvp, this cant ahrdly be called game....
please developers have look at this, or it will kill teh game
this is my experience also in eso pvp since i started playing this game ( not long ago, i agree, but stil, this doesnt mean i should be killed on 1-2 hits from stealth while stuned)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSACZJXcGAU

That's a 1 shooter onslaught build. It's a very powerfu build against potatoes but needs a lot of skill to make it work.

The only skill you need is to looking for suitable target (no shield, no magelight, low health optional). Stealthing and activating buffs is not that skillful.

Pallio · May 2017

Don't hate the player, hate the game!

Seriously, game is a broken mess at this point.

Xvorg · May 2017

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

My build would break the OPs brain. It's essentially built to counter as many things as possible that I have seen over the years in Cyrodiil.

The OP, rather, has admitted (in the now closed thread) that he wears green gear and started playing a month ago.

The analogy I used was he's trying to beat The Golden State Warriors using a wheelchair basketball team only by demanding that the NBA lower the rims to 4 feet high. He's even doubling down on the ridiculousness by refusing to use LeBron on his team. Love it.

Nice example... considering GSW has Zaza whos casted at your feet xDDD

Xvorg · May 2017

tonemd wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Rikkof wrote: »

one shot gankers ruin pvp
this is not pvp, this cant ahrdly be called game....
please developers have look at this, or it will kill teh game
this is my experience also in eso pvp since i started playing this game ( not long ago, i agree, but stil, this doesnt mean i should be killed on 1-2 hits from stealth while stuned)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSACZJXcGAU

That's a 1 shooter onslaught build. It's a very powerfu build against potatoes but needs a lot of skill to make it work.

The only skill you need is to looking for suitable target (no shield, no magelight, low health optional). Stealthing and activating buffs is not that skillful.

well, sustaining it is not as easy as you might think.

Old versión of that build used WB and incap when there was no Onslaught. It was a fun build.

chiipso · May 2017

Yeah nerf the mage nb gankers.. Leave the mage sorc gankers alone! xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm4jB6oY31w

DocFrost72 · May 2017

chiipso wrote: »

Yeah nerf the mage nb gankers.. Leave the mage sorc gankers alone! xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm4jB6oY31w

Dammit, you beat me here!

Good work on that one, btw

leepalmer95 · May 2017

Run more impen
Run more hp

Sorted

Also ganking is getting nerfed in morrowind, stealth attacks are losing the bonus dmg.

Now stop crying.

Laggus · May 2017

Rikkof wrote: »

one shot gankers ruin pvp
this is not pvp, this cant ahrdly be called game....
please developers have look at this, or it will kill teh game
this is my experience also in eso pvp since i started playing this game ( not long ago, i agree, but stil, this doesnt mean i should be killed on 1-2 hits from stealth while stuned)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSACZJXcGAU

Vid link is from last January!

Reefo · May 2017

Also I think in morrowind the stealth attack crit and stun is being removed on players. Will still work in pve.

Considering most ganks are from stealth and benefit from the stun you won't have to worry about it really.

I myself have dabbled in ganking, 1 shot bow build, most of the time it's 2 shot though and that stun really helps. The 1 shots are low HP low crit resistance targets that don't use magelight.

GreenSoup2HoT · May 2017

Reefo wrote: »

Also I think in morrowind the stealth attack crit and stun is being removed on players. Will still work in pve.

Considering most ganks are from stealth and benefit from the stun you won't have to worry about it really.

I myself have dabbled in ganking, 1 shot bow build, most of the time it's 2 shot though and that stun really helps. The 1 shots are low HP low crit resistance targets that don't use magelight.

Only thing that was removed was the extra crit damage. You still get any crit damage you've spec'd into, 100% crit on first hit and the stun. Radiant Mage Light's stealth damage mitigation was removed but it still prevents the stun.

LjAnimalchin · May 2017

Rikkof wrote: »

The pvp is about matchign two oponents, more or less on equal grounds, any time that is possible
Dying inside a stun from Night Blade is not pvp,

Thats just like, your opinion, man

Forgive me but
There are two players
One kills the other

Sounds like pvp to me. You may not like it but please think before you say these things.

For the record I have never ganked
Never one shot anyone
But I support it as a playstyle