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Magicka Templar Dual Wield

NyassaV
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I can live with heavy attacking more often, honestly I can, but DW heavy attacks don't restore magicka, can we work on remedying that? You already changed how bow heavy attacks work so there are no, and I'm quoting you guys here "barriers" in the game-play. This is one such barrier. My suggestion is adding something like a bound sword or perhaps even a trait for weapons that will control what resource they restore. @Wrobel please save us you mighty god I dun wanna use a staff, DW made magplars unique
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  • Ashamray
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    Grab lightning staff. Also, Templar and heavy attacks are... just meh.
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  • NyassaV
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    Ashamray wrote: »
    Grab lightning staff. Also, Templar and heavy attacks are... just meh.

    Swapping to my back bar ONLY to heavy attack is a pain and loss of DPS
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  • clocksstoppe
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    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?
  • Minno
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    Hollery wrote: »
    Ashamray wrote: »
    Grab lightning staff. Also, Templar and heavy attacks are... just meh.

    Swapping to my back bar ONLY to heavy attack is a pain and loss of DPS

    In pvp it would be a good move to backbar resto staff while wearing heavy armor. Complete m a g Regen due to the channel always hitting your Target.
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  • NyassaV
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    Minno wrote: »
    Hollery wrote: »
    Ashamray wrote: »
    Grab lightning staff. Also, Templar and heavy attacks are... just meh.

    Swapping to my back bar ONLY to heavy attack is a pain and loss of DPS

    In pvp it would be a good move to backbar resto staff while wearing heavy armor. Complete m a g Regen due to the channel always hitting your Target.

    Certainly do-able but I'm mostly speaking for PvE here
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  • Mojmir
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    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?

    2 5 pc sets and monster set
    Edited by Mojmir on May 12, 2017 6:01PM
  • Minno
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    Hollery wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Hollery wrote: »
    Ashamray wrote: »
    Grab lightning staff. Also, Templar and heavy attacks are... just meh.

    Swapping to my back bar ONLY to heavy attack is a pain and loss of DPS

    In pvp it would be a good move to backbar resto staff while wearing heavy armor. Complete m a g Regen due to the channel always hitting your Target.

    Certainly do-able but I'm mostly speaking for PvE here

    Figured you were. Just wanted to add that aspect for players that were thinking about joining PvP! :)
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  • clocksstoppe
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?

    2 5 pc sets and monster set

    Destro staff is still better.
  • NyassaV
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?

    2 5 pc sets and monster set

    Destro staff is still better.

    Give me an /cmx of the two set ups
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  • Mojmir
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?

    2 5 pc sets and monster set

    Destro staff is still better.

    from what ive read here on the forums its not, in regards to templar anyways. you even made the thread. 3rd post down
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/269819/magicka-dk-dual-wield-vs-destro-staff-front-bar
    Edited by Mojmir on May 12, 2017 6:19PM
  • danno8
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?

    2 5 pc sets and monster set

    Destro staff is still better.

    from what ive read here on the forums its not, in regards to templar anyways. you even made the thread. 3rd post down
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/269819/magicka-dk-dual-wield-vs-destro-staff-front-bar

    If you have a Maelstrom staff, the bonus can make up for the lack of the monster 2 piece for sure. At least in PvE.

    One big problem I just read today is that Radiant Destruction is not affected by the 8% bonus to single target damage from Fire Staff.
  • Mojmir
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?

    2 5 pc sets and monster set

    Destro staff is still better.

    from what ive read here on the forums its not, in regards to templar anyways. you even made the thread. 3rd post down
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/269819/magicka-dk-dual-wield-vs-destro-staff-front-bar

    If you have a Maelstrom staff, the bonus can make up for the lack of the monster 2 piece for sure. At least in PvE.

    One big problem I just read today is that Radiant Destruction is not affected by the 8% bonus to single target damage from Fire Staff.

    And the plot thickens
  • NiclasFridholm
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    DW is more damage both on live and PTS. With Moondancer and rune sustain is acceptable on PTS with full damage setup!
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  • NyassaV
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    DW is more damage both on live and PTS. With Moondancer and rune sustain is acceptable on PTS with full damage setup!

    Ok... But serioiusly... Moondancer is not easy to obatin
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  • clocksstoppe
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?

    2 5 pc sets and monster set

    Destro staff is still better.

    from what ive read here on the forums its not, in regards to templar anyways. you even made the thread. 3rd post down
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/269819/magicka-dk-dual-wield-vs-destro-staff-front-bar

    Are you really going to quote a 1 year old outdated post and on a completely different class and build?

    Destro staff is literally better in every way. Better weave, better sustain, better damage passives, better range.

    And to put the final nail in the coffin for dw vs destro on magicka builds, good luck sustaining with dw in morrowind.
  • ADarklore
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?

    2 5 pc sets and monster set

    Destro staff is still better.

    from what ive read here on the forums its not, in regards to templar anyways. you even made the thread. 3rd post down
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/269819/magicka-dk-dual-wield-vs-destro-staff-front-bar

    Are you really going to quote a 1 year old outdated post and on a completely different class and build?

    Destro staff is literally better in every way. Better weave, better sustain, better damage passives, better range.

    And to put the final nail in the coffin for dw vs destro on magicka builds, good luck sustaining with dw in morrowind.

    Not only that, but Destro staff is receiving a buff to Heavy attack speed, so it will be faster and offer higher sustain, while all weapons will receive an increase to Light attacks.
    Edited by ADarklore on May 12, 2017 8:52PM
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  • SanTii.92
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    Hollery wrote: »
    Ashamray wrote: »
    Grab lightning staff. Also, Templar and heavy attacks are... just meh.

    Swapping to my back bar ONLY to heavy attack is a pain and loss of DPS

    well but it's not only, after you went to bb and reapplied dots you throw a heavy or two.

    although i agree that templars seem to have ended on a harsh spot, even more so considered that they were quite strong not so long ago.
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  • Alcast
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    Why are you still dual wielding on templar when there is lightning staff?

    Because it does more damage. But that will now change next patch
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  • BraidasNM
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    i think a simpler idea would be to make heavy attacks restore your largest resource pool, which would be nice for mag temps dks, and nbs.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    Well, yall seem to be forgetting Channeled Focus.
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  • NyassaV
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    Well, yall seem to be forgetting Channeled Focus.

    Doesn't do much anymore, it sure does help but not enough
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  • beatonthis
    U could always get the Arch-Mage set for dual wield, then your heavy attacks will restore both stam and mag
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