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Slight Buff To Ravager Or Fix?
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Why are all the highest weapon damage proc armors linked to heavy?
Shouldn't these sets be medium?
Theres a good mix. There needs to be some heavy damage sets. Ravagers really isn't good anymore except for stamplar using jabs. Fury is good but you need to take a lot of damage all the time.
Yet the highest stats giving set are tied to the tanking type of armor.
Its a bit stupid, these sets are one of the reasons heavy was broke for 9 months. Like 600 wpn dmg.... what medium sets even comes close to that?PS4 EU DC
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Why are all the highest weapon damage proc armors linked to heavy?
Shouldn't these sets be medium?
Theres a good mix. There needs to be some heavy damage sets. Ravagers really isn't good anymore except for stamplar using jabs. Fury is good but you need to take a lot of damage all the time.
Yet the highest stats giving set are tied to the tanking type of armor.
Its a bit stupid, these sets are one of the reasons heavy was broke for 9 months. Like 600 wpn dmg.... what medium sets even comes close to that?
Yeah but tooltips aren't everything. And in reality ravagers stopped being really worth it once it stopped procing off of caltrops. Heavy was broken not because of sets like this but because sustain was so high from passives that you could stack into wpn damage with no downside, and you could run with two heavy damage sets or sets that stacked into max resources instead of into regen, as regen would come from the constitution passive among others. If sets like ravagers was why heavy was broken, then heavy would still be meta.0 -
Ashamray✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Why are all the highest weapon damage proc armors linked to heavy?
Shouldn't these sets be medium?
Theres a good mix. There needs to be some heavy damage sets. Ravagers really isn't good anymore except for stamplar using jabs. Fury is good but you need to take a lot of damage all the time.
Yet the highest stats giving set are tied to the tanking type of armor.
Its a bit stupid, these sets are one of the reasons heavy was broke for 9 months. Like 600 wpn dmg.... what medium sets even comes close to that?
You do realize that medium ravager will be used in jewelry + weapon with a heavy armor set to boost heavy stamina char even more, right?Boadrig, EU PC
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Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ravager too weak? Haha.
No.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
Irylia✭✭✭✭✭
✭On DW stamplar it procs a lot for me.Personally I believe automaton might be slightly better damage wise since you will always have the buff.Pair it with bone pirate you'll never run out of stam.
The constant up time may be true but ravager will scale with major buff and if you can reliably proc it when you go for burst it will outperform by giving you more damage and also applying to heals where as automaton is strictly to damage.
I see it like bsw for sorc. You could run julianos and get the constant x damage but you only need the spell damage when you are bursting targets which makes bsw perfect. Plenty of uptime to take a kill and then you refresh to ward, position, select a target. Reset get the buff (w/o trying) just weave lights and shock and you don't "need" that's damage to kill people but it will make your damage extreme and push kills much easier.
I like the idea of 3x body bone pirate or hulking. 2x jewelry.
2x heavy ravager 1x jewelry 2x dw
2x monster (pirate skel, bs, Selene)
Then you would get this heavy set and gain 1x max hp from jewelry and still get medium bonuses.
Skel on medium stamplar is super strong. Kirimoto runs pirate skel when 1vx sometimes. Outside of that he is hands down best stamplar na pc. He had essa on farm with or without pirate.Edited by Irylia on June 21, 2017 3:42PM0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Ravager too weak? Haha.
No.
That's not really an argument. In fact at this time it only functions well for one class, stamplar. I'm not talking about making it more powerful, just giving it ways to be viable for other classes likely through having it proc on flurry.0 -
Magıc✭✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »My Ravager has amazing uptime. In fact, I've come up with a pretty insane Stamplar PvE build with Ravager weapons, 2 body pieces and a necklace (Two-Fanged Snake and Velidreth/Selene as the other sets) and of course the vMA bow. Running around with 20k health before Ebon and Warhorn and *** 6k weapon damage that procs all the time:
Jabs and Deadly Cloak basically keep Ravager perma proc'ed when there's an add stacked on the boss. Yes both of those abilities are melee damage and proc the set.
Then on top of that, your fully charged DW heavy attacks have double chance to proc it and so do Rending Slashes. And Crescent Sweep. I love this build
TFS with anything is really good this patch for PvE imo. You going 1 infused 1 sharp on your weapons?Edited by Magıc on June 23, 2017 2:35PM0 -
Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »My Ravager has amazing uptime. In fact, I've come up with a pretty insane Stamplar PvE build with Ravager weapons, 2 body pieces and a necklace (Two-Fanged Snake and Velidreth/Selene as the other sets) and of course the vMA bow. Running around with 20k health before Ebon and Warhorn and *** 6k weapon damage that procs all the time:
Jabs and Deadly Cloak basically keep Ravager perma proc'ed when there's an add stacked on the boss. Yes both of those abilities are melee damage and proc the set.
Then on top of that, your fully charged DW heavy attacks have double chance to proc it and so do Rending Slashes. And Crescent Sweep. I love this build
TFS with anything is really good this patch for PvE imo. You going 1 infused 1 sharp on your weapons?
Hell no.That sounds great, @IzakiBrotherSs, but how do you sustain?
What do you mean? Sustain was never an issue! Through heavy attacks and shards (although I barely ever need shards).Edited by Izaki on June 23, 2017 6:09PM@ Izaki #PCEU
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✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »My Ravager has amazing uptime. In fact, I've come up with a pretty insane Stamplar PvE build with Ravager weapons, 2 body pieces and a necklace (Two-Fanged Snake and Velidreth/Selene as the other sets) and of course the vMA bow. Running around with 20k health before Ebon and Warhorn and *** 6k weapon damage that procs all the time:
Jabs and Deadly Cloak basically keep Ravager perma proc'ed when there's an add stacked on the boss. Yes both of those abilities are melee damage and proc the set.
Then on top of that, your fully charged DW heavy attacks have double chance to proc it and so do Rending Slashes. And Crescent Sweep. I love this build
I ran TFS/Ravager/Monster set for the better part of 5-6 months on my Stamplar.
Approx 6-7% avg DPS loss over the standard VO build but I was functionally immortal through just about anything any boss could throw at me. Ravager uptime was typically somewhere between 65-70% IIRC.
Really strong on the struggling stamplar at the time.0331
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