Slight Buff To Ravager Or Fix?

Vapirko

Ravager seems to never proc at all, I feel that I can go an hour or more without it happening. I know it's a huge amount of extra damage, but it really seems that it should proc a bit more often than it does. Maybe it's not even working 8% of the time?

Edit: given clever alchemist can proc on command everytime you have a potion available it seems like ravager is at a disadvantage.

Jonno

wtf mine procs really often

jroc699_burr

how do u guys like ravager?

Jonno

i really like it as it has better uptime than fury

Vapirko

Jonno wrote: »

wtf mine procs really often

Really? What are procing off of? Maybe my game just isn't running the animation or something.

Jonno wrote: »

wtf mine procs really often

I think its a good set, gives you a lot of health and the ability to run stam regen on your jewelry because of that. A good solo or 1v1 set. When it procs it's crazy.

Ahzek

Ravager is one of the strongest stamina sets out there.
Its procc chance might seem a bit low, since it only proccs from direct damage, but the procc is so powerfull that this is a requirement to prevent ot from being broken.
Considering this, with bash weaving you still have 3 hits per GCD to trigger the buff, but it makes it pretty unsuited for 2h DPS gameplay.

Vapirko

Ahzek wrote: »

Ravager is one of the strongest stamina sets out there.
Its procc chance might seem a bit low, since it only proccs from direct damage, but the procc is so powerfull that this is a requirement to prevent ot from being broken.
Considering this, with bash weaving you still have 3 hits per GCD to trigger the buff, but it makes it pretty unsuited for 2h DPS gameplay.

Yeah I'm running 2H and bow and that's prob why I feel it's low. I guess I should try and switch to dw for more proc.

Jonno

i play DW stamplar

devilsTear

I love the ravager set personally, I'm thinking of pairing it with 7th legion brute or even red mountain maybe
What are some other good combos in your opinions?

KingJ

On DW stamplar it procs a lot for me.Personally I believe automaton might be slightly better damage wise since you will always have the buff.Pair it with bone pirate you'll never run out of stam.

scipionumatia

Does ravager proc off biting jabs? Been looking for a definition of "direct damage" and all I can seem to find is that it's damage that is not a DoT. So with the definition it should proc off javelin?

CatchMeTrolling

scipionumatia wrote: »

Does ravager proc off biting jabs? Been looking for a definition of "direct damage" and all I can seem to find is that it's damage that is not a DoT. So with the definition it should proc off javelin?

It procs off jabs pretty often, the set pairs the best with a stamplar.

scipionumatia

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

Does ravager proc off biting jabs? Been looking for a definition of "direct damage" and all I can seem to find is that it's damage that is not a DoT. So with the definition it should proc off javelin?

It procs off jabs pretty often, the set pairs the best with a stamplar.

That's what I was hoping for. Looking for a build for morrowind, if dk doesn't get playable by 3.0.4 then I'm planning on maining a stamplar in pvp. Current predicament is if I want to use 5 med or 5 heavy. Opinions?
(Planning on pairing ravager with hulking draugr, I'm imperial also)

KingJ

scipionumatia wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

Does ravager proc off biting jabs? Been looking for a definition of "direct damage" and all I can seem to find is that it's damage that is not a DoT. So with the definition it should proc off javelin?

It procs off jabs pretty often, the set pairs the best with a stamplar.

That's what I was hoping for. Looking for a build for morrowind, if dk doesn't get playable by 3.0.4 then I'm planning on maining a stamplar in pvp. Current predicament is if I want to use 5 med or 5 heavy. Opinions?
(Planning on pairing ravager with hulking draugr, I'm imperial also)

Personally not a huge fan if Hulking prefer bone pirate. You can run Bone pirate and ravager.Another setup I been toying with is VO and ravager just need sharpened VO swords since you can't get impen trials gear thanks @Wrobel .

scipionumatia

KingJ wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

Does ravager proc off biting jabs? Been looking for a definition of "direct damage" and all I can seem to find is that it's damage that is not a DoT. So with the definition it should proc off javelin?

It procs off jabs pretty often, the set pairs the best with a stamplar.

That's what I was hoping for. Looking for a build for morrowind, if dk doesn't get playable by 3.0.4 then I'm planning on maining a stamplar in pvp. Current predicament is if I want to use 5 med or 5 heavy. Opinions?
(Planning on pairing ravager with hulking draugr, I'm imperial also)

Personally not a huge fan if Hulking prefer bone pirate. You can run Bone pirate and ravager.Another setup I been toying with is VO and ravager just need sharpened VO swords since you can't get impen trials gear thanks @Wrobel .

Using VO for pvp? Also isn't bonepirate getting nerfed to the ground in morrowind?

KingJ

scipionumatia wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

Does ravager proc off biting jabs? Been looking for a definition of "direct damage" and all I can seem to find is that it's damage that is not a DoT. So with the definition it should proc off javelin?

It procs off jabs pretty often, the set pairs the best with a stamplar.

That's what I was hoping for. Looking for a build for morrowind, if dk doesn't get playable by 3.0.4 then I'm planning on maining a stamplar in pvp. Current predicament is if I want to use 5 med or 5 heavy. Opinions?
(Planning on pairing ravager with hulking draugr, I'm imperial also)

Personally not a huge fan if Hulking prefer bone pirate. You can run Bone pirate and ravager.Another setup I been toying with is VO and ravager just need sharpened VO swords since you can't get impen trials gear thanks @Wrobel .

Using VO for pvp? Also isn't bonepirate getting nerfed to the ground in morrowind?

Vo give you 8% cost reduction on abilities stamback when you or your group kill someone and major expedition.The 3 piece is the only bad part of the set but the fifth piece also gives weapon damage so it evens out.Bone pirate 300 stam recovery when using a drink is being made 150 still going to be one of the best stam sustain set next patch.Vo on a stamplar going to be strong because your going to get double stam back from the kill then from you repenting the body.

TBois

I use ravager and spriggans on my dw/bow sorc. Dw heavy attacks has two chances to proc. If you aren't a templar I suggest using a heavy attack weave on dw to get consistent results.

scipionumatia

I am a stamplar, for this toon. I used vo on my stam sorc while I was leveling but I only did that cause it's a pve character and I needed vigor. Might not be a bad idea but as of now I'd like to try bone pirate or draugr. Apparently regen is gonna be huge next patch so for now I'll just collect set pieces.

Would you guys prefer to run 5 medium or 5 heavy? (Trying to decide what set I should use for body pieces and what for rings)

tplink3r1

As a Stamplar, i have mine up all the time in PVE and quite often in PVP.

D0ntevenL1ft

scipionumatia wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

Does ravager proc off biting jabs? Been looking for a definition of "direct damage" and all I can seem to find is that it's damage that is not a DoT. So with the definition it should proc off javelin?

It procs off jabs pretty often, the set pairs the best with a stamplar.

That's what I was hoping for. Looking for a build for morrowind, if dk doesn't get playable by 3.0.4 then I'm planning on maining a stamplar in pvp. Current predicament is if I want to use 5 med or 5 heavy. Opinions?
(Planning on pairing ravager with hulking draugr, I'm imperial also)

Exactly what I'm going to be doing; switching from DK to Stamplar. 5 Ravager, 5 Bone pirate, Maelstrom maul, Masters bow

scipionumatia

@D0ntevenL1ft
If DK doesn't get help in 3.0.4 I'm taking that to mean the game is on it's way out. They made an announcement saying new patch notes will be released on Monday so all we can do is wait.

D0ntevenL1ft

scipionumatia wrote: »

@D0ntevenL1ft
If DK doesn't get help in 3.0.4 I'm taking that to mean the game is on it's way out. They made an announcement saying new patch notes will be released on Monday so all we can do is wait.

I'm guessing the patch notes will be tomorrow with the PTS update would they not ? Can anyone confirm?

Brutusmax1mus

devilsTear wrote: »

I love the ravager set personally, I'm thinking of pairing it with 7th legion brute or even red mountain maybe
What are some other good combos in your opinions?

Bone pirate for sure

Brrrofski

I love it on a stamplar (jabs procs it), not on anything else. Fury is a lot better on dk.

I run jewellery and dual wield ravager with bone pirate body, 1 kena, 1 kragh. When ravager procs, people get hurt.

deepseamk20b14_ESO

From my experience it price often. Just not enough to justify using anymore. I always keep it in m6 bank though. Got that pre patch robust necklace ya know.

KingJ

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deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

From my experience it price often. Just not enough to justify using anymore. I always keep it in m6 bank though. Got that pre patch robust necklace ya know.

Personally I feel automaton is better you always have the 400 weapon damage.

Adenoma

Can ravager fresh it's duration while the proc is active to extend the timer?

Vapirko

Brrrofski wrote: »

I love it on a stamplar (jabs procs it), not on anything else. Fury is a lot better on dk.

I run jewellery and dual wield ravager with bone pirate body, 1 kena, 1 kragh. When ravager procs, people get hurt.

Yep, it's good on Stamplar not so good for other stam classes anymore. Why it procs on jabs and not flurry is beyond me.

leepalmer95

Why are all the highest weapon damage proc armors linked to heavy?

Shouldn't these sets be medium?

Vapirko

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Why are all the highest weapon damage proc armors linked to heavy?

Shouldn't these sets be medium?

Theres a good mix. There needs to be some heavy damage sets. Ravagers really isn't good anymore except for stamplar using jabs. Fury is good but you need to take a lot of damage all the time.

Izaki

My Ravager has amazing uptime. In fact, I've come up with a pretty insane Stamplar PvE build with Ravager weapons, 2 body pieces and a necklace (Two-Fanged Snake and Velidreth/Selene as the other sets) and of course the vMA bow. Running around with 20k health before Ebon and Warhorn and *** 6k weapon damage that procs all the time:
Jabs and Deadly Cloak basically keep Ravager perma proc'ed when there's an add stacked on the boss. Yes both of those abilities are melee damage and proc the set.
Then on top of that, your fully charged DW heavy attacks have double chance to proc it and so do Rending Slashes. And Crescent Sweep. I love this build