Serious problem with proposed igneous shield change. ATTENTION NEEDED NOW TO FIX THIS @COMMUNITY

Zarrakon

templesus wrote: »

Third time posting this, hopefully zeninax gives it attention.



Serious problem with proposed igneous shield change.

Currently on live igneous shield does not stack. With the proposed changes your own igneous has to be up for you to get major mending. Unless you revert proposed change or make igneous stack the following problems will occur: Im pvping with a friend, both on stam dks, I use my igneous to get major mending and immediately after mine, my friend uses his to get major mending himself. Because they don't stack, and this is how it is on live as well as pts, his shield visually takes mine off and replaces it. This would effectively mean you can LOSE your major mending if you are playing with other dks, as they can take your shield off of you with their's. The only way to prevent this would be to either REVERT the changes like everyone wants, or make igneous stack.

@Zos_GinaBruno @Wrobel @Zos_RichLambert this needs to be addressed. Asap.

This is a great post except for the bolded part. I think their reasoning was that they didn't want any class to have major mending on demand (i.e. click this and/or stand here and you have major mending for x seconds, congratulations). Completely reverting igneous shield back to its old state will not happen.

And making igneous shield stack is a terrible idea, and is absolutely (if the devs have any sense) not an option. Run 2 max health DK tanks, 2 DK healers and 2 DK DPS and suddenly the whole trial is going to have permanent 23k+ shields.

Personally, I think giving DKs major mending on the next direct heal cast after igneous shield could be fair. Or giving them major mending on all active HoT ticks for 5 seconds after they cast shield. Something where it's not tied to the actual shield, but not quite as constant as it used to be.

Weps

I guess we should wait for the marvelous patch notes release and find out.

Oh dear, I'm so thrilled about it.

Weps

Zarrakon wrote: »

This is a great post except for the bolded part. I think their reasoning was that they didn't want any class to have major mending on demand (i.e. click this and/or stand here and you have major mending for x seconds, congratulations). Completely reverting igneous shield back to its old state will not happen.

And making igneous shield stack is a terrible idea, and is absolutely (if the devs have any sense) not an option. Run 2 max health DK tanks, 2 DK healers and 2 DK DPS and suddenly the whole trial is going to have permanent 23k+ shields.

Personally, I think giving DKs major mending on the next direct heal cast after igneous shield could be fair. Or giving them major mending on all active HoT ticks for 5 seconds after they cast shield. Something where it's not tied to the actual shield, but not quite as constant as it used to be.

You're not gonna stack Major Mending, you're just gonna stack the size of the shield.
Won't make no difference, you're still gonna lose it when YOUR shield is gone.

It's a 2k shield, to earn 23k you'll need 11 DKs all in the same 10 metres.

Veg

bump for interest

ColoredScreams

TheStealthDude wrote: »

you should not be put in a situation where your teamates can take away your buffs.

The new repentance in a nutshell

templesus

Still not addressed. What a joke

MaxwellC

They need to revert these changes and @templesus good find on this I had not even tried doing this during testing.

Another issue in PvP is that this shield is weak and since it is based off of your max health rather than max damage, you can easily light attack to break it. The shield its self is a major problem because if you are hit with a damage over time ability, you will not be able to utilize this shield unless you consistently spam it; I have tried this before and it does not work.

Zarrakon

Weps wrote: »

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Zarrakon wrote: »

This is a great post except for the bolded part. I think their reasoning was that they didn't want any class to have major mending on demand (i.e. click this and/or stand here and you have major mending for x seconds, congratulations). Completely reverting igneous shield back to its old state will not happen.

And making igneous shield stack is a terrible idea, and is absolutely (if the devs have any sense) not an option. Run 2 max health DK tanks, 2 DK healers and 2 DK DPS and suddenly the whole trial is going to have permanent 23k+ shields.

Personally, I think giving DKs major mending on the next direct heal cast after igneous shield could be fair. Or giving them major mending on all active HoT ticks for 5 seconds after they cast shield. Something where it's not tied to the actual shield, but not quite as constant as it used to be.

You're not gonna stack Major Mending, you're just gonna stack the size of the shield.
Won't make no difference, you're still gonna lose it when YOUR shield is gone.

It's a 2k shield, to earn 23k you'll need 11 DKs all in the same 10 metres.

Do you even know how igneous shield works? The shield size scales off the max health of the caster. At ~70k max health, the shield is ~26k on the caster and ~13k on the group. Tell me again how you want this to stack, please. And while you're at it, I'd love to hear why anyone would run a healer, or even give a crap about major mending in any trial, when 4 max health DKs can keep 26k shields on the entire group (not counting bone ward synergies or magma armor) indefinitely.

Vesper_BR

I have a suggestion: why don't zos turn the major mending Into major vitality for 3s? That should solve most of the problemsz since we dks dont want to heal others, we want survivability...

D0ntevenL1ft

Embarrassing that they haven't even acknowledged this yet.

@Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno

Kay1

What did I just read

People complaining about a nerf to nerf it more .

It's so sad this game is crowded of people with that mentality.

Izaki

Joy_Division wrote: »

Just proof ZoS just nerfs without testing the implications of said nerfs.

But we already knew that

templesus

Kay1 wrote: »

What did I just read

People complaining about a nerf to nerf it more .

It's so sad this game is crowded of people with that mentality.

What?

Veg

Kay1 wrote: »

What did I just read

People complaining about a nerf to nerf it more .

It's so sad this game is crowded of people with that mentality.

were complaining about a bug that removes major mending from dks

templesus

@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel are you kidding me right now? I have made multiple posts on this topic since pts was released and not even an acknowledgement of this bug? What type of game listens to its playerbase this horribly?

apostate9

Okay, I try not to pile onto ZOS on these forums...but this is NOT ok.

The proposed change should simply not go live until they can make this work properly.

Weps

Just revert it, do yourself some good PR once in a while, I don't want to play 500km away from any DK in Cyrodil.


Unless your plan is to get rid of the DK once and for all and in that case, great, you're doing everything right.

Rinmaethodain

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4123626/#Comment_4123626

RIP Igneous shield for next three months? Or maybe untill the first week after Expansion incremental patch?