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Why Are Sorcs a Problem and The Effort Put Into Playing

NyassaV
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Now, everyone knows that playing a sorc is damn there amazing in terms of raw DPS numbers, mag or stam it is the 'easy mode' of ESO. But the problem with it, is not it's shear power, but the problem is that other classes have a hard time getting to where the sorc is. I can do 21k DPS on a mag sorc without even trying, without a rotation, without caring and just mindlessly flinging spells at a target dummy. The set up is your classic BSW and Ilamris with 3 Infal Aether jewelry. And that is fine, on a mag DK I can hit 21k DPS with the same gear set up (using Valkyn instead of Ilambris) while I am being sorta mindful of my rotation. So I am getting similar DPS when I am putting different amounts off effort into it. That is the issue.

Other classes, mag and stam, need a buff. Magicka templar can stay where it is due to the amount of tools they have, but Stamplar needs help. Mag and stamina nightblades need some PvE love badly. And DK could use some new tools. Sorc right now is dominant in DPS number when you barely have to put effort into it. But all these other classes, THEY DO NOT reward effort put into them.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

Post ideas and contribtuions please, I wanna hear what people have to say.
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  • ku5h
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    Here we go again...
  • usmcjdking
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    This whole hunky-dory "buff other classes" after they literally directly nerfed every other class into the stone age is blitheringly stupid.
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  • Beardimus
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    Seriously. It's getting dull now.

    I guess shield stacking bothers you too?
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  • wimhwimladimf
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    Your thread would be much more valuable if you made a video, show your gear, stats, skills morph and then rotation.
  • NyassaV
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Seriously. It's getting dull now.

    I guess shield stacking bothers you too?

    I'm actually perfectly fine with the shield stacking, it's unique to sorcs and gives them an edge they would not have otherwise. It's their raw damage output that bothers me so much in competitive DPS in vet trials. Other classes have been left in the dust as a comparison to the point where I can hit buttons mindlessly on a sorc and reach the same DPS as a stamblade when I am actually focusing hard on the stamblade. The easy mode class should be easy and powerful, sure, but other classes are harder to play properly and are not as rewarding as one would think.
    Edited by NyassaV on April 30, 2017 11:34PM
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  • Kram8ion
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    Already got my shield breaker on :|
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    Hollery wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    Seriously. It's getting dull now.

    I guess shield stacking bothers you too?

    I'm actually perfectly fine with the shield stacking, it's unique to sorcs and gives them an edge they would not have otherwise. It's their raw damage output that bothers me so much in competitive DPS in vet trials. Other classes have been left in the dust as a comparison to the point where I can hit buttons mindlessly on a sorc and reach the same DPS as a stamblade when I am actually focusing hard on the stamblade. The easy mode class should be easy and powerful, sure, but other classes are harder to play properly and are not as rewarding as one would think.

    Unique when every other class can use the two of the 3 shields a sorcs has...yeah..
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    Kram8ion wrote: »
    Already got my shield breaker on :|

    Nerf Shield breaker.
  • Tabbycat
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    Just say no to nerfs for PvP.

    Honestly, I'm tired of it.
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  • HuawaSepp
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    Sorc was the best class since v16/cp160 gear cap raise in every single patch, only DK and Templar were better than a sorc for tanking/healing.
    But I can't understand why ZOS needed so long to understand that.
    Now instead of giving Sorc major mending and chains they first nerf the other classes.

    I'm for buffing sorc and not nerfing the other classes, but whatever.
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  • Durham
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    I do not want sorcs nerf stop with all the nerfs just adjust the other classes up .... stop freaking nerfing.
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    Hollery wrote: »
    Now, everyone knows that playing a sorc is damn there amazing in terms of raw DPS numbers, mag or stam it is the 'easy mode' of ESO. But the problem with it, is not it's shear power, but the problem is that other classes have a hard time getting to where the sorc is. I can do 21k DPS on a mag sorc without even trying, without a rotation, without caring and just mindlessly flinging spells at a target dummy. The set up is your classic BSW and Ilamris with 3 Infal Aether jewelry. And that is fine, on a mag DK I can hit 21k DPS with the same gear set up (using Valkyn instead of Ilambris) while I am being sorta mindful of my rotation. So I am getting similar DPS when I am putting different amounts off effort into it. That is the issue.

    Other classes, mag and stam, need a buff. Magicka templar can stay where it is due to the amount of tools they have, but Stamplar needs help. Mag and stamina nightblades need some PvE love badly. And DK could use some new tools. Sorc right now is dominant in DPS number when you barely have to put effort into it. But all these other classes, THEY DO NOT reward effort put into them.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

    Post ideas and contribtuions please, I wanna hear what people have to say.

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  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    Hollery wrote: »
    Post ideas and contribtuions please, I wanna hear what people have to say.

    So much has been said in so many other threads

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    Tabbycat wrote: »
    Just say no to nerfs for PvP.

    Honestly, I'm tired of it.

    Wow, it wasn't even mentioned.
    Bandwagon. /sigh
  • idk
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    @Hollery

    Sorry to say but in live or PTS if your only hitting 21k on a Sorc or Dk then either your build needs work or the delivery of skills.

    As for the post, it's hard to provide valuable feedback when builds and delivery of the rotation is off.
  • overclocker303b14_ESO
    Hollery wrote: »
    Now, everyone knows that playing a sorc is damn there amazing in terms of raw DPS numbers, mag or stam it is the 'easy mode' of ESO.

    LOL yes because I see SOOOOO many stamsorcs (or stamina anything for that matter) in trials.

    Stamsorcs are already getting another unnecessary nerf with the medium armor and redguard nerfs. Are you saying that isn't enough and you still think they are OP?
    Edited by overclocker303b14_ESO on May 1, 2017 6:39PM
  • Akimbro
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    Seems more like a L2P issue tbh.
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