PvP or PvE which do you enjoy more?

Coilbox

PvP should never exist in ESO.

End of all balancing problems!

Keldheir

I don't care about PVP. I might give it a try one day but until then I'd rather do the same PVE quests over and over.

Cadbury

ESO is the first MMO I played predominantly PvE. I'm sure my old LOTRO and WoW guildies would shake their heads in disgust at me if they knew.

Amayna

PvE, I only PvP if I'm forced to do so, Vigor, Caltrops, .. etc etc other wise I'm fulltime PvE however this will change as I'm very unhappy about the changes to CP system, and this will make it even harder than it is currently

SnubbS

PvP. Ball-zerging is fun, Ap farming is fun—I'm sure trials are fun too, I just never got into End game PvE.

eso_nya

ParaNostram wrote: »

It's competing against the inherent unknown that is another player? Every encounter has the potential to be a challenge, unlike PvE which is... Well you know what you get every single time. Pointless grinding for pixels on screen.

No offending/bashing intended, really curious about it: When watching streams of pvpers, it looks to me that those guys r picking their fights very carefully, as if trying to reduce the chance of a potential challenge as much as possible.
To me, their fights look exactly the same as me stomping beetles on the starter island.
Is it really that more challenging than pve to u?

Nothing against u, i read that argument alot and always wondered, u were just the last person i saw bringing it up

WalksonGraves

Eso has the worst pvp I have ever seen, plants vs zombies gw2 has better class balance.

Kiralyn2000

ParaNostram wrote: »

Wot m8? Have you even PvPed? Like it ain't that? It's contests of skill? It's competing against the inherent unknown that is another player? Every encounter has the potential to be a challenge

Perhaps sometimes. Problem is it's the most vocal folks in any group that become the example everyone else sees. In the case of pvp, it's the guys who spew trash-talk across the chat, the little jerks ranting profanity & slurs across the mic in CoD, the guys on the WoW PvP forum talking about how hilarious it was to corpse-camp some dude for an hour til he logged out in frustration or how a Lv90 squishing Lv10's is "real pvp" because it involves two players. Who think that incivility & insults are awesome and everyone else just needs to 'grow a thicker skin' or get off the internet. Griefers who think it's Great Fun to screw up other people's play time.

Bullies, given the opportunity to show themselves openly, and get praised for it.


Again, not every pvper.... just the most obvious ones.

And

Wot m8? Have you even PvPed?

Yes. Before I gave up on it completely, I did in early WoW (made it to rank 8 or 9 in the first pvp system). And read the WoW pvp forums even after that. Saw obnoxious pvpers ranting in general chat in other MMOs I've played. And keep seeing articles in gaming news about toxic players, hate speech, bullying, etc.... in online pvp and esports. So yeah.

Honestly, our entire culture (not just gaming) has become overly focused on "competition" and "us vs them" to an unhealthy level.

Ch4mpTW

I enjoy PvE far more than PvP. PvP gets incredibly boring and frustrating after awhile. It also doesn't help that PvP is incredibly unbalanced, and filled with: Griefers, egomaniacs, trolls, and tryhards. After going back and forth from keep to keep (or outpost I suppose), and then rinsing and repeating. That in and of itself makes me want to not even care anymore. Throw in gankers and the zerg mentality, and you have a true mess on your hands.

By the way, I won't even factor in the: Lag, gap-closing into load screens, siege randomly disappearing, doors not working, etc.

Bananko

Undoubtedly PvE.

I don't enjoy PvP. At all.

eso_nya

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Perhaps sometimes. Problem is it's the most vocal folks in any group that become the example everyone else sees. In the case of pvp, it's the guys who spew trash-talk across the chat, the little jerks ranting profanity & slurs across the mic in CoD, the guys on the WoW PvP forum talking about how hilarious it was to corpse-camp some dude for an hour til he logged out in frustration or how a Lv90 squishing Lv10's is "real pvp" because it involves two players. Who think that incivility & insults are awesome and everyone else just needs to 'grow a thicker skin' or get off the internet. Griefers who think it's Great Fun to screw up other people's play time.

Bullies, given the opportunity to show themselves openly, and get praised for it.


Again, not every pvper.... just the most obvious ones.

Its a part of the community called "killers", to be read up here: http://mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm
TL/DR: ppl who only enjoy games, where/when they can make other ppl suffer. Always wondered why games cater to that specific mindset, maybe to keep them from going out and interacting with the real world?

Bananko

Bananko wrote: »

I don't enjoy PvP. At all.

To clarify: I didn't necessarily mean that I don't enjoy this game's PvP specifically, but rather that I don't enjoy PvP in any game.

IronCrystal

Kay1 wrote: »

I need to do hard stuff.

PvE is too easy and unrewarding in this game, the changes to sustain won't make the game harder it will just make everything more boring.

You think vet trials are easy? Lol. It's fun to push top scores in trials and try to do the best we can possibly do.

Rakkhat aint' gonna pm you after and *** about how you killed him either.

KhajiitLion

PVE is more enjoyable and relaxing
PVP is too competitive and it doesn't feel fun

Rinmaethodain

I enjoy PVE the most and with each Patch full of nerfs caused by PVP balance issue i have more and more negative feelings towards PVP ruining my enjoyment of PVE.

And believe me, i tried getting into PVP but each time some PVP player pointlessly chases me for 5 minutes die hard set on killing me (to feel better or what, i dont know) while im on horse simply trying to ride somewhere or each time some PVP player decides to camp a crafting station entrance in IC and gank anybody trying to craft pair of pants like if his honor depends on that or when you see 30 players camping alliance gate and killing every single person exiting it and then group t-bagging them... i just give up.

Im perfectly fine with PVP coexisting with PVE but for as long PVP will be hurting PVE (while ZOS refuses to start balancing these two separately https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4055913) my feelings towards PVP will not change anytime soon.

raglau

PvP in this game is absolutely horrible. It's frustrating because out of all MMOs, ESO has the potential to make a really good PvP game. It's like they tacked it on at the last minute and simply thought, "yeah, it's ***, but we have the Elder Scrolls licence, so people will put up and shut up", which is actually what people have done, despite PvP actually being far worse now than at release time.

ZOS should either commit to truly over-hauling PvP and allowing it to live up to its potential, or simply remove it from the game and accept it as the bodge job it always has been.

Drdeath20

The reality of pvp is all the gitguds or "top end" players group up and choose the alliance/campaign to farm AP against noobs.

Very rarely see real competition in cyrodil

Cillion3117

I went from PVE to PVP, then back to PVE. Next will be PVP.

Galwylin

PvP is the most superficial aspect of a game. Yet it can get so much attention from the developers. I haven't seen one but is there any game that starts out as PvP only then adds PvE later?

Grunim

Drdeath20 wrote: »

The reality of pvp is all the gitguds or "top end" players group up and choose the alliance/campaign to farm AP against noobs.

Very rarely see real competition in cyrodil

I don't view Cyrodiil as being about competition, after all it's not meant to be an e-sport. For myself and many others, it's a place where not having a perfect rotation doesn't matter and when you die people aren't upset with you because even the best players will die.

Cyrodiil can be great for relaxed players and I feel far less judged when I play in Cyrodiil than when I try to join a PvE group for a dungeon.

ADarklore

It's interesting... EVERY poll on this topic shows exactly the same thing... the overwhelming majority of players prefer PvE... yet ZOS insists on "balancing" everything to PvP. Then they admit on ESO Live that they're too lazy to implement a system to separate the two, even though it would make the overwhelming majority of players happy. Go figure.

I'm honestly considering jumping back to DCUO when their revamp/overhaul occurs. ZOS is following the same tactic that DCUO had been doing, yet at least DCUO seems to have realized and admitted their mistakes and are now going back and completely revamping everything in order to make it better... even admitting they cut corners and made mistakes in doing so.

Akselmo

I find both really fun.

Morimizo

PvE 100%, but would be more than happy to PvP if they let us take the reins of delve/dolmen bosses in Cyrodiil and see how many players we can surprise with different tactics!

Ch4mpTW

In my opinion, PvE dwarfs PvP in terms of enjoyment. How someone can go about enjoying something with so many exploits and bugs is beyond me. Throw in: Insane lag, numerous balance issues, the heavy toxicity, and you have a recipe for disaster that will get worse as time goes on. ZOS should just go on and remove it, in my opinion.

FluffyReachWitch

PvE. It's way more relaxing and there's the huge variety of content. And the crafting writs, monster drops, and the occasional Undaunted pledge feed my crafting bag and my bank.

PvP is fun in its own ways, but I've only got so much time and so many spoons.

AnnieBeGood

For a long long time, I was afraid to pvp. So I pve'd my way round the map with more than a few chars.... then I realised I was getting a bit bored... I knew how to make a build by then so it all got a tad easy. Plus once you done a dungeon 10 times it is kinda done really.

I didn't enjoy Hews Bane much or the Gold Coast. Loved Wrothgar. And I so looking forward to Morrowind.

So I decided to try pvp. I thought well maybe just for a little while till I get to Captain. Nice rank that. Now I am Tribune and still playing pvp. I really enjoy the manipulations of the map and the chess-like quality. Mind you slamming some AD/DC guys into the ground is somehow...... satisfying

Rainwhisper

I despise everything about PvP. I'd rather poke myself with a sharp stick than PvP.

PvP'ers play a much more complex and challenging game than I want. I want to log in, use my hard-won skills to do some quests, explore, help out some friends, then log out. No stress, no frustration.

Princess_Ciri

When PvP is fun, I enjoy it more than any vet trial or w/e. But PvE is a more solid enjoyment, there aren't that many times when PvE is so frustrating I stop it (maybe vMA, but then I go to do a different PvE) Whereas PvP definitely has more frustrations than PvE, and I never leave Cyrodil thinking 'hmmm gonna go cool off by duelling people.'

Anlaemar

I've always been into PvE more than PvP. I've tried PvP in other MMOs and I just don't care for it much. GW2 for example. But I hadn't played GW2 for very long before trying it out. I've been playing ESO for 3 years now and with BG coming out I'll finally have a reason to get into PvP here.

Tandor

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Both.

You really should of added a both or neither option tbh.

Inefficient poll.

If people enjoy neither, why are they even here? Their opinion counts for nothing.

On the other hand, I agree that those who enjoy both play styles equally should be able to say so - as indeed they can, by commenting without voting.