Does anyone use lunar bastion set?

Tasear

Just curious if anyone actually uses lunar bastion.

Turelus

Checking the set it's not really one which falls within the games meta.

It could be used by close friends who build around it, I often feel most of the sets like this only really work if you have a core group of friend and build your own special group builds/tactics together.

DRXHarbinger

Pugging yes. Just pop any synergy. Plus it looks cool as *** when it goes off.

DRXHarbinger

Tasear wrote: »

Seems like lunar bastion would be good for longer fights and imperial shorter...But I don't know. Still over time it's a 25k shield for allies.

If you're stuck on long pug fights and end up tanking zergs in a dungeon use Leeching plate and lunar bastion. The shield keeps them semi alive and leeching saves you from the dw stamplar healer.

Although it is noted that scrubs often run away from the cool effect lunar bastion leaves on the ground thinking it's harmful despite being blue. Not joking I have had the other 3 all run off everytime it popped.

DRXHarbinger

Zyrudin wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Seems like lunar bastion would be good for longer fights and imperial shorter...But I don't know. Still over time it's a 25k shield for allies.

If you're stuck on long pug fights and end up tanking zergs in a dungeon use Leeching plate and lunar bastion. The shield keeps them semi alive and leeching saves you from the dw stamplar healer.

Although it is noted that scrubs often run away from the cool effect lunar bastion leaves on the ground thinking it's harmful despite being blue. Not joking I have had the other 3 all run off everytime it popped.

How did you manage to reply to a post from 9:30 at 9:34 and end up as reply #3?

Because zos.

inked1

I do a lot of PUG dungeons on my tank and I run 5 lunar bastion and 5 resilient yokeda. The two combined helps me pull the pugs through.

Lunar gives a shield for me and the dps standing behind me spamming light attacks. Plus it gives minor aegis which is great because a tank in a PUG is going to be getting beaten on for a long time. Resilient yokeda gives me back health and does an aoe damage. Any extra DPS I can provide helps save my sanity after an hour in a dungeon.

Sheva I 7 I

inked1 wrote: »

I do a lot of PUG dungeons on my tank and I run 5 lunar bastion and 5 resilient yokeda. The two combined helps me pull the pugs through.

Lunar gives a shield for me and the dps standing behind me spamming light attacks. Plus it gives minor aegis which is great because a tank in a PUG is going to be getting beaten on for a long time. Resilient yokeda gives me back health and does an aoe damage. Any extra DPS I can provide helps save my sanity after an hour in a dungeon.

That dps is nothing compared to more warhorns with tavas/or more health with ebony so no time is wasted in picking pugs up/alkosh dps buff+damage. 3rd piece is complete waste as you get minor aegies from lunar. Lunar bastion is definitely nice with for stacked fights, with 100 in bastion if could provide some good extra defense. However its not enough to be a "game changer", there are only few instances i put it on. Ruins of Azzatun last boss if we have someone with 400 cp there, it helps keep them alive, axes in vaa (minor aegies, don't feel like farming up footmans) for everything else, alkosh+ebony. For pugging I personally run 5x alkosh/5xpowerful assault/charged maelstrom lighting staff with shock glyph on backbar (minor vul since most pug healers don't even have lighting staff much less a charged one), not to brag but I am increasing dps tremendously without dying in that setup - i also run burning embers for 10% buff to fire damage for pugs if theres no dk or i see dk not using it. This way most of my pug dungeon findered groups are speed runs given that everyone in the group is at least 250cp.

DRXHarbinger

Sheva I 7 I wrote: »

inked1 wrote: »

I do a lot of PUG dungeons on my tank and I run 5 lunar bastion and 5 resilient yokeda. The two combined helps me pull the pugs through.

Lunar gives a shield for me and the dps standing behind me spamming light attacks. Plus it gives minor aegis which is great because a tank in a PUG is going to be getting beaten on for a long time. Resilient yokeda gives me back health and does an aoe damage. Any extra DPS I can provide helps save my sanity after an hour in a dungeon.

That dps is nothing compared to more warhorns with tavas/or more health with ebony so no time is wasted in picking pugs up/alkosh dps buff+damage. 3rd piece is complete waste as you get minor aegies from lunar. Lunar bastion is definitely nice with for stacked fights, with 100 in bastion if could provide some good extra defense. However its not enough to be a "game changer", there are only few instances i put it on. Ruins of Azzatun last boss if we have someone with 400 cp there, it helps keep them alive, axes in vaa (minor aegies, don't feel like farming up footmans) for everything else, alkosh+ebony. For pugging I personally run 5x alkosh/5xpowerful assault/charged maelstrom lighting staff with shock glyph on backbar (minor vul since most pug healers don't even have lighting staff much less a charged one), not to brag but I am increasing dps tremendously without dying in that setup - i also run burning embers for 10% buff to fire damage for pugs if theres no dk or i see dk not using it. This way most of my pug dungeon findered groups are speed runs given that everyone in the group is at least 250cp.

You assume most pugs are set up to accommodate the benefits of warhorn etc. Reality is most of the time tanking pugs it's a fight to keep them alive and yourself and guide them to the fight all at the same time, all whilst the "healer" does nothing but heavy resto and spam healing ward on himself. Assuming you get a healer and non some queue skipping pvp guy with a 2h sword whose sole rotation is crit rush. ..steps back...crit rush...steps back...crit rush.

Rickter

its a pure tanking set. like pure tanking with negligible group support (8 meters? lul - 2399 dmg shield? lul - every 2 secs? does it stack? no? ok - lul)

tanks need resources - now more than ever. so this "healing taken" and "max hp" stats are just worthless.

like dont get me started on hist bark - hist bark got its fame from back in the day when it stacked with OP DK Cinder Storm. but after that was nerfed/fixed w/e people still wear it despite the healing recov 4piece being a complete throw away stat. you are not efficient at all. youre wearing a 5 piece for 3 bonuses instead of 4. Tavas sort of fixed that but no one is really wearing that anymore either.

with the next patch - you wanna stam tank? better start farming draugr hulk - want to mag tank? willow's path it up. all this "healing taken" bs is going to take a back seat to sustain.

FlyLionel

Rickter wrote: »

its a pure tanking set. like pure tanking with negligible group support (8 meters? lul - 2399 dmg shield? lul - every 2 secs? does it stack? no? ok - lul)

tanks need resources - now more than ever. so this "healing taken" and "max hp" stats are just worthless.

like dont get me started on hist bark - hist bark got its fame from back in the day when it stacked with OP DK Cinder Storm. but after that was nerfed/fixed w/e people still wear it despite the healing recov 4piece being a complete throw away stat. you are not efficient at all. youre wearing a 5 piece for 3 bonuses instead of 4. Tavas sort of fixed that but no one is really wearing that anymore either.

with the next patch - you wanna stam tank? better start farming draugr hulk - want to mag tank? willow's path it up. all this "healing taken" bs is going to take a back seat to sustain.

Have you tried tanking on PTS? Would like someone with experience other than theories.

DRXHarbinger

Draqone wrote: »

I just tried it, since I leveled a new tank to 50. It's horrible.

Your ranged DPS will not be in range of the rune, the proc is not exactly reliable (in the sense you can't proc it to mitigate damage when needed the most) and the shield it gives is laughable.

Ranged dps will hardly need it anyway. The set is ideal for places like icp where you cannot really fight from range, running down corridors with large trash pools you can pop it again and again and everyone gets the buff using it with alkosh is pretty ideal tbh for these environments.

kylewwefan

I've used lunar bastion. It's fine. In pugs, you never know if you'll be getting synergies to make good use of it. The healing taken makes springs and rapid regeneration heal you much stronger. It's like quick recovery. For now, that's 100cp to get 16% so, it does have value.

The damage shields from it are quite good as well.

code65536

Rickter wrote: »

its a pure tanking set. like pure tanking with negligible group support (8 meters? lul - 2399 dmg shield? lul - every 2 secs? does it stack? no? ok - lul)

tanks need resources - now more than ever. so this "healing taken" and "max hp" stats are just worthless.

like dont get me started on hist bark - hist bark got its fame from back in the day when it stacked with OP DK Cinder Storm. but after that was nerfed/fixed w/e people still wear it despite the healing recov 4piece being a complete throw away stat. you are not efficient at all. youre wearing a 5 piece for 3 bonuses instead of 4. Tavas sort of fixed that but no one is really wearing that anymore either.

with the next patch - you wanna stam tank? better start farming draugr hulk - want to mag tank? willow's path it up. all this "healing taken" bs is going to take a back seat to sustain.

Willow's Path? Hulking Draugr? LOL.

And healing taken isn't a bad stat at all. For content where the damage is so high like maintanking vMoL HM, I'm not going to laugh at healing taken.

The NA group that cleared vHoF on the PTS had their MT running group support sets instead of selfish sets--he was using Alkosh/Ebon, I believe--the same as what maintanks run on live. Stacking max stamina so high with Draugr is pointless since your stat return from Helping Hands, Shards, and Battle Roar no longer scale off of your pool size. I've seen several tanks on the PTS stack up their health to high levels for large igneous shields to the group instead of stacking stam. If you want magicka sustain, Seducer would be far better than Willow's Path (health regen is still trash, and stam regen is moot for a tank).

Anyway, as far as Lunar Bastion goes, I would never use it when solo-tanking. There are simply better sets for you to wear, like Ebon/Alkosh for good groups, or Ebon/selfish-set-here for bad groups.

For trials with two tanks, one tank will run Ebon/Alkosh, and the other tank would run Something/Alkosh. That something is usually Powerful Assault, but it's really a very underwhelming set. PA forces the tank into 5 medium, which hurts the tank's main sustain from the loss of Constitution, and even with ideal perfect uptime on every player, PA will result in only 2-3% extra group DPS, which isn't that much. People run PA on the other tank because it's the least worst in a slate of underwhelming group-support sets. Lunar isn't good by any stretch of the imagination, but it's an option if the other tank doesn't want to go with PA. Lunar pairs well with Alkosh because both are activated by synergies, the Minor Aegis is nice, and it keeps the tank in heavy.

I tank in Lunar/Alkosh if the other tank is running Ebon/Alkosh because I don't have PA (I'm usually the MT in Ebon/Alkosh, so it's not a scenario that comes up often). It's underwhelming and I'm not convinced that it helps the group much. But it's not as if I have many better options to choose from.

Tasear

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Lunar+Bastion+Set


Yes Wondering how you would be use such a set or if anyone has a build using it.

Titansteele

I use it

Found it works quite nicely.

Turelus

I think a build for it would be more reliant on your allies carrying a lot of synergy skills for you to keep using.

Without a whole group working around the set I don't think you can build a great build with it. Hopefully someone with some experience on the set can post though.

Tasear

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Titansteele wrote: »

I use it

Found it works quite nicely.

How do you use it effectivly?

Zyrudin

I think Imperium is much better, but that's me.

Tasear

Seems like lunar bastion would be good for longer fights and imperial shorter...But I don't know. Still over time it's a 25k shield for allies.

Panth141

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Pugging yes. Just pop any synergy. Plus it looks cool as *** when it goes off.

Can anyone else see the naughty word in this post?

Zyrudin

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Seems like lunar bastion would be good for longer fights and imperial shorter...But I don't know. Still over time it's a 25k shield for allies.

If you're stuck on long pug fights and end up tanking zergs in a dungeon use Leeching plate and lunar bastion. The shield keeps them semi alive and leeching saves you from the dw stamplar healer.

Although it is noted that scrubs often run away from the cool effect lunar bastion leaves on the ground thinking it's harmful despite being blue. Not joking I have had the other 3 all run off everytime it popped.

How did you manage to reply to a post from 9:30 at 9:34 and end up as reply #3?

Panth141

@Zyrudin

It's because his posts were selected as answers, which pulls them to the top - hence the 'tick' to the left of them.

Zyrudin

Panth141 wrote: »

@Zyrudin

It's because his posts were selected as answers, which pulls them to the top - hence the 'tick' to the left of them.

@Panth141 Phew! Thanks!
I was beginning to feel Twilight Zoned here

FlyLionel

Was thinking of farming this one up, looks good for an off tank/dlc dungeons.

Draqone

I just tried it, since I leveled a new tank to 50. It's horrible.

Your ranged DPS will not be in range of the rune, the proc is not exactly reliable (in the sense you can't proc it to mitigate damage when needed the most) and the shield it gives is laughable.

Titansteele

Tasear wrote: »

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Titansteele wrote: »

I use it

Found it works quite nicely.

How do you use it effectivly?

I have it in tandem with black rose and to be fair I only use it in guild groups or pugs that are on voice comms of some shape or description so the guys stack with me to get the benefit from the set as otherwise people run away from the benefit rather than into it!
Ontop of that I either use Skoria if I want to help a bit with DPS or Engine Guardian if the Templars are not showing me enough shard loving.

Pinning trash in place with talons, hitting the synergies and letting the set help protect the DPS lets them go to town. It has a similar benefit on DPS race parts of boss fights and most single target boss elements as well.

I have had quite a lot of fun with it.