Should we be able to role as a different alliance in pvp campaigns?

CrazyWolf712

I want to hear what you all think so just hear me out. I am the guild master of a werewolf guild open to all alliances. However, my main character is in Ebonheart and my other characters aren't built for any content. We have werewolf pvp events twice a week but because I'm in Ebonheart, the Aldmeri and Daggerfall players in my guild get excluded. They often ask if we will do events for the other alliances but like I said, my other characters are low level and aren't even built for pve or pvp content. All I can do is suggest they make a new character but some aren't willing.


My husband and I have a solution in mind. At the beginning of each campaign, you should be able to pick which alliance you would play as for the duration of the campaign. The maps and scores would be blocked before joining until you role so you can't see who is winning. So you may be an Aldmeri player roling as an Ebonheart for the week of the campaign and won't know beforehand whether your alliance is winning. And let me add that if you pick a certain campaign on one character, you won't be able to join that campaign on any other characters for the rest of the campaign.

This way, we would be able to have more of our guild members join us for our events instead of leaving the guild because they can get involved. I want to hear your opinions on the matter. Should we be able to role as a different alliance in pvp campaigns?

Stratforge

I think this is a fine idea but you're about to have a bunch of forum warriors in here talking about spies and faction LOYALTY in no time.

UnversedNumber3

CrazyWolf712 wrote: »

My husband and I have a solution in mind. At the beginning of each campaign, you should be able to pick which alliance you would play as for the duration of the campaign. The maps and scores would be blocked before joining until you role so you can't see who is winning.

I think that it would be too one sided. People could ask a friend or use an alt to check what side is winning and just pile on.

Oompuh

Treason towards the Aldmeri Dominion is punishable by death!

But in all honesty I can just have an alt pick an alliance and scout for who's winning, then set my main to the winning one. Simple

CrazyWolf712

Ok. So the issue I'm hearing is that people will use other characters to see who's winning in a campaign. Well what if I say that once you roll in one campaign on one of your characters, none of your other characters will be able to join that campaign for the duration. So then you're stuck with your alt character in a campaign where the alliance you chose might be losing.

FearlessOne_2014

prootch wrote: »

People just reroll nowadays when they want to change faction ... it's already full of faction jumpers.

I would prefer players to be locked on their main campaign + their faction. They would still have the "invited" campaign to play somewhere else, if the main campaign gets unplayable (lag/crash/queue/ect...). But not on the same campaign with another faction char,

So yes I agree with you that people just reroll. But not for the general reasons you think they do for. Lets take me for a small example.



It's clear that I started out as AD back in 2014. I took a 6 month break from ESO in 2016. Came back to a faction that had so much hostilities towards new names, and faces. If you think I'm going to sit around and have to deal with that in a video game no less. I'm sorry you my fellow gamer are just flat out plain silly. So instead of rolling DC like most did for the free and easy wins. I started rolling EP.

So my time in EP is a small bit better then my time in AD. At least people in EP wasn't being flat out douches 24/7/365 for the most part. Now I just gank and do the occasional zerg surfing outside of the zerg, when I want to chill and farm AP casually.

I find it funny how the people who contributed the most. Towards making faction loyalty a thing of the past. Are the loudest ones complaining about others who they've abused in the past, shows them no loyalty. I'm sorry to say loyalty is a two way street not a one way street. You want to abuse people because you don't know them. That's fine, then don't cry when they faction swap. Faction swapping IMO should remain as it is today. Too many exclusive douchebag guilds to force players to play where they are not wanted and abused.

At least Cyrodiil in ESO will not follow the same fate WvW did in GW2. Locking accounts to a faction will be a sure fire way of pushing Cyrodiil down that road. Players should have freedom of choice, to choose which faction each character is in. Just like guilds have freedom of choice, to abuse and troll outsiders. Fair is fair right?

Heruthema

I think it has been one of the worst decisions ZOS has made. It has turned campaigns into nothing but an AP farming fest. Take all or a lot of keeps as one faction and switch sides and take them back. It has allowed large guilds to jump whenever they want and completely change the course of the campaign.
ZOS needs to go back to the way it used to be. If you start a campaign as EP, AD or DC you can not play another faction in that campaign until it is over. Next campaign change factions if you want to but not during the campaign.

CrazyWolf712

Heruthema wrote: »

I think it has been one of the worst decisions ZOS has made. It has turned campaigns into nothing but an AP farming fest. Take all or a lot of keeps as one faction and switch sides and take them back. It has allowed large guilds to jump whenever they want and completely change the course of the campaign.
ZOS needs to go back to the way it used to be. If you start a campaign as EP, AD or DC you can not play another faction in that campaign until it is over. Next campaign change factions if you want to but not during the campaign.

I completely agree with this statement! This is the best answer I have gotten to the question at hand. Thanks for your input!

Bam_Bam

Heruthema wrote: »

I think it has been one of the worst decisions ZOS has made. It has turned campaigns into nothing but an AP farming fest. Take all or a lot of keeps as one faction and switch sides and take them back. It has allowed large guilds to jump whenever they want and completely change the course of the campaign.
ZOS needs to go back to the way it used to be. If you start a campaign as EP, AD or DC you can not play another faction in that campaign until it is over. Next campaign change factions if you want to but not during the campaign.

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Nermy

prootch wrote: »

People just reroll nowadays when they want to change faction ... it's already full of faction jumpers.

I would prefer players to be locked on their main campaign + their faction. They would still have the "invited" campaign to play somewhere else, if the main campaign gets unplayable (lag/crash/queue/ect...). But not on the same campaign with another faction char,

Used to be that way until One Tamriel and I would love to bring it back. Account wide.

prootch

It's easy: if your faction (say AD, just an example) is locked with heavy queue, and DC is not: log a char from DC faction who makes a group in pve with AD chars, then launch the cyro group and... AD will count in DC pop ^^

Magic war by ZOS.

Kartalin

prootch wrote: »

It's easy: if your faction (say AD, just an example) is locked with heavy queue, and DC is not: log a char from DC faction who makes a group in pve with AD chars, then launch the cyro group and... AD will count in DC pop ^^

Magic war by ZOS.

Yeah we've sometimes felt EP or DC was doing that against us recently, pretty garbage tactic. EP at two bars steamrolling two different keeps with 60 each and we sit at three bars wondering where the rest of our faction is outside of our 16 man plus a few pugs.

Faction lock isn't the answer since it wasn't that way from the beginning. Too unfair to the many people who spent time leveling characters of other factions for PVP. And no we don't flip to the winning faction when the chips are down, we just want good fights.

geonsocal

the double xp events (feels like there's at least 4 or so a year) - are a great opportunity to level additional characters...

variety is the spice of eso...

prootch

People just reroll nowadays when they want to change faction ... it's already full of faction jumpers.

I would prefer players to be locked on their main campaign + their faction. They would still have the "invited" campaign to play somewhere else, if the main campaign gets unplayable (lag/crash/queue/ect...). But not on the same campaign with another faction char,

Biro123

Nermy wrote: »

prootch wrote: »

People just reroll nowadays when they want to change faction ... it's already full of faction jumpers.

I would prefer players to be locked on their main campaign + their faction. They would still have the "invited" campaign to play somewhere else, if the main campaign gets unplayable (lag/crash/queue/ect...). But not on the same campaign with another faction char,

Used to be that way until One Tamriel and I would love to bring it back. Account wide.

Yes. Account-wide.

There was some weirdness going on mid-afternoon yesterday. DC were poplocked but a number of people (myself included) were convinced.. CONVINCED that there were 3 times as many AD players on. (well, felt more like 1.5 times to me - but we were definitely heavily outnumbered everywhere on the map). At one point the whole of DC were in Glade - and it just got rolled by overwhelming numbers. keep after keep after keep.
Isn't this kind of shenanigans possible with some kind of weird group queuing with mixed factions?

prootch

Kartalin wrote: »

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Yeah we've sometimes felt EP or DC was doing that against us recently, pretty garbage tactic. EP at two bars steamrolling two different keeps with 60 each and we sit at three bars wondering where the rest of our faction is outside of our 16 man plus a few pugs.

Faction lock isn't the answer since it wasn't that way from the beginning. Too unfair to the many people who spent time leveling characters of other factions for PVP. And no we don't flip to the winning faction when the chips are down, we just want good fights.

This must be a joke... AD is the faction with the highest queue, no one would log on your side
And yep, there are ADs switching faction once the emp is lost, we do recognize @account when we see it.

Kartalin

I'm PC/NA, sorry