Deltia help us!

luen79rwb17_ESO

I believe Deltia and many other streamers are truly valuable to ESO and its community, providing alot of knowledge about the game they love, investing many hours in the process, not only in the game per se but recording, editing and uploading their own content. They are awesome people regardless of your personal opinion on the game or their playstyle.

His opinion and his latest video shows a true bitterness towards the fact that Templars got hit very VERY hard on these patch notes. Damn I'm not a main templar but it's my second favorite class and I feel my 2 templars have been stripped off everything that made them unique. I think about those characters in their PTS shape and I honestly don't feel any encouragement to go and play them.

I also share his thought that the Major Mending nerf was one of the worst if not the worst hit of all, especially when you look at the warden passives.

Enslaved

Dracindo wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

One word "LOL"

LOL is kinda, 11 words, you know.

3 words..... 12 letters

no. 11 words

This isn't the topic, but this is more interesting.
Can you explain why 11 words, please?

Laughing my fat ass off On your Learn to play issues

Kodrac

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Hell has frozen over.

Who knew the devil was a tucker!

Browiseth

MasterSpatula wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Exactly my point.

But also consider: 90%+ of the game population is Casual gamers who don't chase and have no interest in chasing the Meta or FotM builds.

What do these changes and soul-crushing nerf to sustain do to them?

They won't have any inclination to "adapt" like the people who DO chase the MEta will do. They'll just see the game becoming vastly more difficult overnight, and they'll simply lose their desire to play.

These changes might not be so bad to the people on the Forums who chase that Meta, but to everyone else...

@Uriel_Nocturne i'm appauled you think so lowly of a casual player's attention span

if they play so casually as you imply, these changes likely won't matter to them with how patheticically easy the level of content they must partake in is to keep them feeling rewarded

Leaving aside the actual content of the conversation for just a paragraph here, I just want to point out how funny it is that @Browiseth gets on @Uriel_Nocturne 's case for insulting casuals then proceeds to rather nastily insult casuals.

I consider myself a "hardcore casual." I still enjoy overland content and I also enjoy stuff that's harder. I don't chase the meta, I couldn't care less about being on any leaderboards, and grinding for BiS sounds like a cruel joke to me. I play to do whatever content I have the chance to do and enjoy myself doing it.

I know this much: "Filthy casuals" who actually find base-game delves fun and actually consider Public Dungeons challenging may not find fights much harder, but they will notice they're spending more time waiting for resources to come back between fights. More time waiting, less time having fun. And casuals' money helps keep the servers running.

@MasterSpatula

it wasn't an insult though, it was a hypotheical "if this is how you view things, this must be how things are in my eyes" sort of deal

besides casuals aren't people

now that was an insult

it was also a joke, i'd like to make that clear even though i hate doing that because it ruins the jokeness

Ep1kMalware

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Deltia doesn't give two ***.

He was at ZOS's offices arguing FOR these changes that pidgeon-hole every magicka character into being FORCED to use a staff.

With these changes; if you're playing a magicka-based character, you either use a Destro/Resto staff, or you'll run out of resources so fast that even base-world mob fights become a chore.

There's NOTHING good about these changes coming with Morrowind, and the streamers are heavily to blame.

So no, Deltia won't help any of us out in any way.

@Uriel_Nocturne wait magicka characters are encouraged to use the mage weapons

whaaaaaaaaaat

when did this even become a problem

I dual wield for the bump in my damage numbers.

I like the way that plays for my magicka templar, and it's the build I have had since I created a Templar three years ago.

Now? Now it works vastly against me.

I don't chase the "Meta". I don't grind and scrounge for the BiS monster drops, nor do I have an interest in Trials, vMA, or anything like that.

But now a character that I have loved and played with for three full years is going to become a hindrance (and nigh unplayable) unless I play him like a Sorcerer.

That is where my post comes from. This patch and the changes coming with it are killing player build diversity in favor of trying to pidgeon-hole every player into following the BiS-FotM-build-meta. For a game that pimps out "player diversity" as much as the Devs do, they're sure putting a lot of work into killing off player build diversity.

@Uriel_Nocturne "play how you want to play" doesn't mean "that build you made that doesn't make conventional sense in a traditional video game will perform just as well as the best playstyles"

it means you can dual wield like a rogue on a mage if you want to, but it's not entirely intended and should be treated as such

SO, you're OK with ZOS forcing every Magicka character into playing the nearly exact same build? Because that's all these changes foster.

It doesn't matter what class you play after these changes. If you're Magicka, you use a staff. If you're Stamina, you use a two-hand weapon.

Yeah, sure... great fun... really "diverse".

@Uriel_Nocturne there's four (soon to be five) different classes for a reason

And the issue will still remain.

Even when the Warden is added in;

If you're a Magicka Warden (or any other class), you MUST use a Staff and the exact same gear.
If you're a Stamina Warden (or any other class), you MUST use a Two-hand and the exact same gear.

Diversity still dies.

@Uriel_Nocturne there was never any diversity to begin with mate, and don't pretend that there was

the metagame is an absence of diversity by nature

Exactly my point.

But also consider: 90%+ of the game population is Casual gamers who don't chase and have no interest in chasing the Meta or FotM builds.

What do these changes and soul-crushing nerf to sustain do to them?

They won't have any inclination to "adapt" like the people who DO chase the MEta will do. They'll just see the game becoming vastly more difficult overnight, and they'll simply lose their desire to play.

These changes might not be so bad to the people on the Forums who chase that Meta, but to everyone else...

@Uriel_Nocturne i'm appauled you think so lowly of a casual player's attention span

if they play so casually as you imply, these changes likely won't matter to them with how patheticically easy the level of content they must partake in is to keep them feeling rewarded

That's because the term for players who just want to unwind amd not get involved eith competative endgame raid teams is 'casual players'.

Take your nonsense somewhere else, you're just trying to start an argument. If those players wanted to hate the game they'd be in vmol/vma right now.

Pallio

Casuals are actually pretty resilient to nerf, like the pvp crowd, doesn't really matter as long as they can RP, harvest nodes and follow the zerg, everything is fine.

They will not be spending 4hrs in vMA farming for that ÷%%#=% infernal staff any time soon.

Browiseth

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Deltia doesn't give two ***.

He was at ZOS's offices arguing FOR these changes that pidgeon-hole every magicka character into being FORCED to use a staff.

With these changes; if you're playing a magicka-based character, you either use a Destro/Resto staff, or you'll run out of resources so fast that even base-world mob fights become a chore.

There's NOTHING good about these changes coming with Morrowind, and the streamers are heavily to blame.

So no, Deltia won't help any of us out in any way.

@Uriel_Nocturne wait magicka characters are encouraged to use the mage weapons

whaaaaaaaaaat

when did this even become a problem

I dual wield for the bump in my damage numbers.

I like the way that plays for my magicka templar, and it's the build I have had since I created a Templar three years ago.

Now? Now it works vastly against me.

I don't chase the "Meta". I don't grind and scrounge for the BiS monster drops, nor do I have an interest in Trials, vMA, or anything like that.

But now a character that I have loved and played with for three full years is going to become a hindrance (and nigh unplayable) unless I play him like a Sorcerer.

That is where my post comes from. This patch and the changes coming with it are killing player build diversity in favor of trying to pidgeon-hole every player into following the BiS-FotM-build-meta. For a game that pimps out "player diversity" as much as the Devs do, they're sure putting a lot of work into killing off player build diversity.

@Uriel_Nocturne "play how you want to play" doesn't mean "that build you made that doesn't make conventional sense in a traditional video game will perform just as well as the best playstyles"

it means you can dual wield like a rogue on a mage if you want to, but it's not entirely intended and should be treated as such

SO, you're OK with ZOS forcing every Magicka character into playing the nearly exact same build? Because that's all these changes foster.

It doesn't matter what class you play after these changes. If you're Magicka, you use a staff. If you're Stamina, you use a two-hand weapon.

Yeah, sure... great fun... really "diverse".

@Uriel_Nocturne there's four (soon to be five) different classes for a reason

And the issue will still remain.

Even when the Warden is added in;

If you're a Magicka Warden (or any other class), you MUST use a Staff and the exact same gear.
If you're a Stamina Warden (or any other class), you MUST use a Two-hand and the exact same gear.

Diversity still dies.

@Uriel_Nocturne there was never any diversity to begin with mate, and don't pretend that there was

the metagame is an absence of diversity by nature

Exactly my point.

But also consider: 90%+ of the game population is Casual gamers who don't chase and have no interest in chasing the Meta or FotM builds.

What do these changes and soul-crushing nerf to sustain do to them?

They won't have any inclination to "adapt" like the people who DO chase the MEta will do. They'll just see the game becoming vastly more difficult overnight, and they'll simply lose their desire to play.

These changes might not be so bad to the people on the Forums who chase that Meta, but to everyone else...

@Uriel_Nocturne i'm appauled you think so lowly of a casual player's attention span

if they play so casually as you imply, these changes likely won't matter to them with how patheticically easy the level of content they must partake in is to keep them feeling rewarded

That's because the term for players who just want to unwind amd not get involved eith competative endgame raid teams is 'casual players'.

Take your nonsense somewhere else, you're just trying to start an argument. If those players wanted to hate the game they'd be in vmol/vma right now.

@Ep1kMalware i don't think you really understood what i said, because i was speaking in the defense of casuals

and isn't it the nature of disagreements to argue over those disagreements? so yes, maybe i am starting arguments

TheBonesXXX

People will take their place, just like they took the place of Tamriel Foundry and Mostly Harmless.

Warden is the new master for a while, get used to it.

CromulentForumID

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

I personally think people like Deltia are bad for the game.

People need to make their own builds, and not follow the meta cheese someone else came up with.

I will continue using my Nord Magicka Templar.

Deltia isn't bad for the game, and, quite frankly, only 1 or 2 of his builds have ever been considered "meta" at any point. Even then, the meta isn't the meta because someone made a build video out of it. It's the meta because it's the most effective for the task at hand. You keep using that garbo Templar, and I'll keep making sure that no builds like that are ever in any raid group I run with.

Spoken like a true brain dead, meta following streamer groupie.

Also, ITG is not flattering. Grow up.

Spoken like a guy who has a Nord Templar "Questing Build." L2P

They didn't mention their build and all in this thread that I can see. Did you really take the time to read and review dozens of their past comments to find out something they play?

Wow, that is some dedicated L2P research. Most people just say it.

ThePaleItalian

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

AZ3V3D0 wrote: »

I'm just here to see if anyone will clarify why "LOL" is 11 words from two pages ago.

laugh out loud..



I will wait

Isn't that 3 words, and 12 letters? With 2 spaces, as a total of 14 characters used? While "LOL" is an abbreviation utilizing 3 letters?

Well look at you Mr. Fancy Pants!!

Ep1kMalware

Browiseth wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Browiseth wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Deltia doesn't give two ***.

He was at ZOS's offices arguing FOR these changes that pidgeon-hole every magicka character into being FORCED to use a staff.

With these changes; if you're playing a magicka-based character, you either use a Destro/Resto staff, or you'll run out of resources so fast that even base-world mob fights become a chore.

There's NOTHING good about these changes coming with Morrowind, and the streamers are heavily to blame.

So no, Deltia won't help any of us out in any way.

@Uriel_Nocturne wait magicka characters are encouraged to use the mage weapons

whaaaaaaaaaat

when did this even become a problem

I dual wield for the bump in my damage numbers.

I like the way that plays for my magicka templar, and it's the build I have had since I created a Templar three years ago.

Now? Now it works vastly against me.

I don't chase the "Meta". I don't grind and scrounge for the BiS monster drops, nor do I have an interest in Trials, vMA, or anything like that.

But now a character that I have loved and played with for three full years is going to become a hindrance (and nigh unplayable) unless I play him like a Sorcerer.

That is where my post comes from. This patch and the changes coming with it are killing player build diversity in favor of trying to pidgeon-hole every player into following the BiS-FotM-build-meta. For a game that pimps out "player diversity" as much as the Devs do, they're sure putting a lot of work into killing off player build diversity.

@Uriel_Nocturne "play how you want to play" doesn't mean "that build you made that doesn't make conventional sense in a traditional video game will perform just as well as the best playstyles"

it means you can dual wield like a rogue on a mage if you want to, but it's not entirely intended and should be treated as such

SO, you're OK with ZOS forcing every Magicka character into playing the nearly exact same build? Because that's all these changes foster.

It doesn't matter what class you play after these changes. If you're Magicka, you use a staff. If you're Stamina, you use a two-hand weapon.

Yeah, sure... great fun... really "diverse".

@Uriel_Nocturne there's four (soon to be five) different classes for a reason

And the issue will still remain.

Even when the Warden is added in;

If you're a Magicka Warden (or any other class), you MUST use a Staff and the exact same gear.
If you're a Stamina Warden (or any other class), you MUST use a Two-hand and the exact same gear.

Diversity still dies.

@Uriel_Nocturne there was never any diversity to begin with mate, and don't pretend that there was

the metagame is an absence of diversity by nature

Exactly my point.

But also consider: 90%+ of the game population is Casual gamers who don't chase and have no interest in chasing the Meta or FotM builds.

What do these changes and soul-crushing nerf to sustain do to them?

They won't have any inclination to "adapt" like the people who DO chase the MEta will do. They'll just see the game becoming vastly more difficult overnight, and they'll simply lose their desire to play.

These changes might not be so bad to the people on the Forums who chase that Meta, but to everyone else...

@Uriel_Nocturne i'm appauled you think so lowly of a casual player's attention span

if they play so casually as you imply, these changes likely won't matter to them with how patheticically easy the level of content they must partake in is to keep them feeling rewarded

That's because the term for players who just want to unwind amd not get involved eith competative endgame raid teams is 'casual players'.

Take your nonsense somewhere else, you're just trying to start an argument. If those players wanted to hate the game they'd be in vmol/vma right now.

@Ep1kMalware i don't think you really understood what i said, because i was speaking in the defense of casuals

and isn't it the nature of disagreements to argue over those disagreements? so yes, maybe i am starting arguments

I suppose, but if terms and definitions loose all meaning then the world. For the sake of clarification I'm not talking about role players so much as the 'middle tier' of players that we often see in the lfg tool and clearly struggle.

We know who these players are because we see them every single day. These people, these people are going to get DESTROYED.

Kalante

No wonder sypher quit this game. He saw the changes and said nope, im out.

nimander99

I just want to post a huge Facebook Laughing Face in response to the title of this thread.

MasterSpatula

Browiseth wrote: »

@MasterSpatula

it wasn't an insult though, it was a hypotheical "if this is how you view things, this must be how things are in my eyes" sort of deal

besides casuals aren't people

now that was an insult

it was also a joke, i'd like to make that clear even though i hate doing that because it ruins the jokeness

You described content many happen to enjoy as "pathetically easy." Perhaps I'm missing how that's a compliment.

LiquidPony

Deltia is a potato. Who cares what he thinks?

Shad0wfire99

CromulentForumID wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

I personally think people like Deltia are bad for the game.

People need to make their own builds, and not follow the meta cheese someone else came up with.

I will continue using my Nord Magicka Templar.

Deltia isn't bad for the game, and, quite frankly, only 1 or 2 of his builds have ever been considered "meta" at any point. Even then, the meta isn't the meta because someone made a build video out of it. It's the meta because it's the most effective for the task at hand. You keep using that garbo Templar, and I'll keep making sure that no builds like that are ever in any raid group I run with.

Spoken like a true brain dead, meta following streamer groupie.

Also, ITG is not flattering. Grow up.

Spoken like a guy who has a Nord Templar "Questing Build." L2P

They didn't mention their build and all in this thread that I can see. Did you really take the time to read and review dozens of their past comments to find out something they play?

Wow, that is some dedicated L2P research. Most people just say it.

Yeah, he did. L2 read.

EnglishTea123

I thought it was all the streamers that were directing the game toward their own taste, and not what the majority wants. A certain stam sorc streamer is notorious for that from what I hear. Always cries about how stam sorcs are weak and stuff. Well... stan classes in general are what he cries about on his stream each time he dies. Guessing he never thought he had l2p issues huh? Every magicka sorc he can't kill, "Nerf the *** sorc, man!" I just hope ZoS would permanently remove magicka aspect from this game or something because stamina builds are fitter for this game. Some of these great stamina players, they literally suck so bad when they switch to magicka. It's amazing! But then they can't complain about their magicka builds because they helped neuter it.

AzraelKrieg

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I believe Deltia and many other streamers are truly valuable to ESO and its community, providing alot of knowledge about the game they love, investing many hours in the process, not only in the game per se but recording, editing and uploading their own content. They are awesome people regardless of your personal opinion on the game or their playstyle.

His opinion and his latest video shows a true bitterness towards the fact that Templars got hit very VERY hard on these patch notes. Damn I'm not a main templar but it's my second favorite class and I feel my 2 templars have been stripped off everything that made them unique. I think about those characters in their PTS shape and I honestly don't feel any encouragement to go and play them.

I also share his thought that the Major Mending nerf was one of the worst if not the worst hit of all, especially when you look at the warden passives.

acw37162

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Deltia doesn't give two ***.

He was at ZOS's offices arguing FOR these changes that pidgeon-hole every magicka character into being FORCED to use a staff.

With these changes; if you're playing a magicka-based character, you either use a Destro/Resto staff, or you'll run out of resources so fast that even base-world mob fights become a chore.

There's NOTHING good about these changes coming with Morrowind, and the streamers are heavily to blame.

So no, Deltia won't help any of us out in any way.

So much wrong here and I usually like so much of what you post.

Phinix1

Turelus wrote: »

The butthurt in this one is strong.

As per my other thread, go actually play the PTS and try it, do some theory crafting and stop proclaiming the death of the game because of some paragraths.

If you want to stop the changes, actually try and do something to convince ZOS rather than just posting trash on the forums (that's my job).

Judging by past experience, PTS feedback is the LAST thing they are likely to listen to. Whining streamers who directly affect their popularity and profit is #1 (which is why they invite them and not mod authors to conferences, to placate them), followed by whining support threads and whining on the forum.

Do not undermine my voice! The whines of the Dragonborn shall be heard!

makeumrage

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Deltia doesn't give two ***.

He was at ZOS's offices arguing FOR these changes that pidgeon-hole every magicka character into being FORCED to use a staff.

With these changes; if you're playing a magicka-based character, you either use a Destro/Resto staff, or you'll run out of resources so fast that even base-world mob fights become a chore.

There's NOTHING good about these changes coming with Morrowind, and the streamers are heavily to blame.

So no, Deltia won't help any of us out in any way.

See his latest videos please. He literally burried his templar lmao. Havent met one serious player into this. I know alot will just overcome it and build to it but most are pissed. And this is not what the community wanted.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Anyone remember this thread?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/319337/wrong-feedback-source-streamers-dont-represent-most-players#latest

Remember when all the streamers went to ZOS headquarters? There were mixed feelings in the community about whether the people invited represented all of us.

So its interesting to see some of those same streamers distance themselves from ZOS's patch notes. Is this a case where inviting them was just a PR stunt and none of their advice was taken?

Or was this patch what those people recommended and if so, kind of proves the point of that post.

Night_Wolf2112

Aside from the 'mending' issue... it seems that most people are really complaining about how using resources is ACTUALLY going affect your ability to use resources. #spamfestisover

flguy147ub17_ESO

Kalante wrote: »

No wonder sypher quit this game. He saw the changes and said nope, im out.

Actually my thoughts kinda, He quit immediately after he went to ZOS to test. Makes you wonder when probably your #1 streamer in the game quits after seeing what was ahead in Morrowind.

Rohamad_Ali

I think there is a big misconception at ZoS that relearning the game is fun and enjoyable . That grinds are what attract and retain players . This happens a lot when developers run out of ideas to keep content fresh and make expansions feel new .

Everyone has an opinion and this one does not mean anymore then any others but , I would of played my cards different . I would of made adjustments to what already existed with a scalpel instead of a chainsaw . Every patch a smaller incision until the patient was stable . All of the time freed up from this would of been on adding more dungeons and more areas to explore with even more battlefields . Adding investigation to quests the absorb the players mind more then go fetch missions . I just feel like the same people always produce the same chaos every major update . The reason for this has always eluded me as ZoS has Bethesda staff and they are normally fantastic at this sort of thing ...

zaria

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Anyone remember this thread?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/319337/wrong-feedback-source-streamers-dont-represent-most-players#latest

Remember when all the streamers went to ZOS headquarters? There were mixed feelings in the community about whether the people invited represented all of us.

So its interesting to see some of those same streamers distance themselves from ZOS's patch notes. Is this a case where inviting them was just a PR stunt and none of their advice was taken?

Or was this patch what those people recommended and if so, kind of proves the point of that post.

Good question, very good, now elitist has complained that the game is face roll easy and they can solo the veteran dungeons. The streames is in the elite even if not elitists but are likely to share some of the views.
or are they more balanced?

On the other hand they desperately not want to be seen as associated with the upcoming train wreck even if they recommended the overall direction.

Kalante

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

No wonder sypher quit this game. He saw the changes and said nope, im out.

Actually my thoughts kinda, He quit immediately after he went to ZOS to test. Makes you wonder when probably your #1 streamer in the game quits after seeing what was ahead in Morrowind.

I know right. People like to think that ZOS and the streamers are in bed together while their top streamer sypher already quit the game over a month ago. If ZOS listened and really cared about streamers as their #1 priority like all of these ZOS champions proclaim, this game would be in such a better state but sadly it is not. Balance is still really bad both in PVE and PVP, and PVP still is has performance issues. If ZOS catered to the top streamers which are solely PVP streamers you would think that they would had fixed PVP already a loooong time ago. The only reason their last top streamer fengrush still here is because he has some friends that still play and he doesn't rely on streaming for a living. I don't see any player dedicating their stream solely on ESO because this game is not even popular in twitch to begin with. Due to the terrible direction this game has taken regardless of all the lies that the devs tell you that this game is successful. The twitch views don't lie son. Why do you think they have been cranking up the crown store to a whole new level? I can't even get an individual mount like we used to without having to gamble on scam crates. I swear to god the ESO community are one the biggest clueless and arrogant people ive ever come across. I don't know what is their vendetta against streamers it's hilarious.

Ch4mpTW

Kalante wrote: »

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

No wonder sypher quit this game. He saw the changes and said nope, im out.

Actually my thoughts kinda, He quit immediately after he went to ZOS to test. Makes you wonder when probably your #1 streamer in the game quits after seeing what was ahead in Morrowind.

I know right. People like to think that ZOS and the streamers are in bed together while their top streamer sypher already quit the game over a month ago. If ZOS listened and really cared about streamers as their #1 priority like all of these ZOS champions proclaim, this game would be in such a better state but sadly it is not. Balance is still really bad both in PVE and PVP, and PVP still is has performance issues. If ZOS catered to the top streamers which are solely PVP streamers you would think that they would had fixed PVP already a loooong time ago. The only reason their last top streamer fengrush still here is because he has some friends that still play and he doesn't rely on streaming for a living. I don't see any player dedicating their stream solely on ESO because this game is not even popular in twitch to begin with. Due to the terrible direction this game has taken regardless of all the lies that the devs tell you that this game is successful. The twitch views don't lie son. I swear ESO community are one the biggest arrogant people ive ever come across. I don't know what is their vendetta against streamers it's hilarious.

@Kalante Which is deserving, although a bit sad. The ESO community overall is very arrogant and toxic for the most part nowadays, and only gets worse upon entering the PvP scene. Ironic when most of the streamers are PvP'ers. But regardless, is toxic nonetheless. @FENGRUSH isn't really a dude I can say is too much of a jerk, because there's always a solid backing behind his claims. It's not just him throwing some crap out into the air, and immediately shutting down anything that opposes it. Not even that, but dude is a person who you can genuinely tell is passionate about both the game and community. Which is something I feel a lot of people connect to. I know for a fact I do, which is why I'm such a huge fan of his content.

As for the direction this game is taking, it's pretty much dive bombing out of control at this point. Literally speeding down nose-first to the ground. And what is so infuriating is that we tried to stop this. We literally tried our damn hardest. People have gotten banned over being so overly blunt and passionate at trying to fix this game. But was disregarded and called crazy. Why? Because their opinion(s) weren't popular. Their opinions were met with L2P remarks and "git gud" remarks. So much in fact that they either didn't even care about getting banned, and or just wanted to be banned (case and point being a user named @Alucardo and many others). I even reached that point personally, and know for a fact that I'm walking on paper thin sheets of ice. But, I just don't care anymore. I either defend myself and my logic, or let a bunch of elitist jerks say and do whatever they want to me over the Internet. N'ah. Not happening.

This community and certain devs are literally the reason why ESO is the way it is right now. And it is going to get worse. How do you have a product that is on the way, and yet you have players talking about how they want to or have already gone ahead and cancelled their pre-order? If I was a dev reading that, it'd hurt my feelings. I'd be ashamed of myself, and wonder where I went as a developer wrong. I'd be embarrassed. And what makes it so much worse, is that as a developer you have the ball in your court. You can do things to please the player base. For example Maelstrom Arena. Players have been begging for a token system or something that'll help them reach their goals better. Or to be honest, an inferno sharpened staff. So as a dev, why not do so? Why not throw them a bone, and increase the drop rate for those particular weapons if the community has been begging for them for months upon months on end? But n'ah. You'd rather keep the abysmal droprates, and do all you can to keep players grinding your content. Then sit up looking goofy, and wonder why it is players are complaining and not only quitting your game for other MMO's. But then turning around and insulting your creation. Smh.

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Dracindo wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

One word "LOL"

LOL is kinda, 11 words, you know.

3 words..... 12 letters

no. 11 words

This isn't the topic, but this is more interesting.
Can you explain why 11 words, please?

Laughing my fat ass off On your Learn to play issues

This matter has now been resolved and this thread is now closed.

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