ESO is broken! When will Zos listen to our pvp player base ??!!!!!

Lord_Invel

First off I would like to say that the degeneration buff in the mages skill line isn't healing properly. It only gives me 348 healing on my light and heavy attack damage rather than 120 percent of the damage done which is supposed to be around 3k and 5k crit heals.

Secondly health desyncs are super annoying it seems like those don't get fixed.

Thrid point is that Onslaught one shots anyone in existence from stealth.

Fourth point is that snares are a cancer to every solo player in the game and only benefits outnumbering ur opponent. GET RID OF SNARES!!!

5th poisons are the most broken outnumbering mechanics in the game get rid of them or make them a choice between using ur potion.

6th is that mobility is so neglected in this game gap closers passively snare u because of broken combat animations gap closers snare through mist form and forward momentum which is really annoying and not intended to work. All classes need a reliable mobility mechanic and gap close snares and snares in general hinder solo play and growth of the individual player.

7th is that armor scaling is completely trash and doesn't allow people to be successful without running meta builds

8th is that all these new armor sets from one tamriel have been implemented so poorly. For example back when lich only had limited available armor slots it was at least balanced, Now that every armor set comes in every slot there are unbelievable unbalanced armor setups and designs that give players an unfair advantage in duels and open world. This is what squashes armor diversity as in if u don't played the most op armor setup u wont be successful at all with ur burst combos.

MY FINAL POINT IS THIS:
Battle spirit was a terrible fix to high burst damage terrible. I mean u got rid of soft caps what did u expect to happen to pvp of course damage would be out of control without soft caps. Also armor sets like whitestrakes and many crafted armor sets at rendered null and void due to this BATTLE SPIRIT PLAGUE. If soft caps are reworked and battle spirit is removed pvp would be so much better. And you don't need to do soft caps in pve zones make it for pvp only. Remove batlle spirit in pvp zones and implement soft caps again. @Wrobel

ZOS please fix pvp we have been an after thought for so long and it has not been healthy for the game. You can make not only pve a monetization factor, but also make pvp a great one as well if pvp becomes seriously competitive.

EVERYONE GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK TO THIS POST AND GIVE IDEAS ON HOW TO IMPROVE PVP!

Publius_Scipio

I definitely agree that no matter what build you have or how "skilled" you are, unless you are running the meta (or close to it) you will be defeated by a meta player. As much as people may not want to admit it, one can argue that meta build can also be referred to as a troll build.

Alomar

Don't hold your breath, they're a "for profit" company and their profits come from casual pve'ers and role-players not pvpers.

olsborg

2many things snare, I agree.

Publius_Scipio

olsborg wrote: »

2many things snare, I agree.

I forgot about that one. lol. Many times in big bedlam, all hell breaking loose fights at mile gates or inside keeps.... 97.35% of the insanity on screen I spend snared.

And then when I duel a DK its root spam. I try to chase a templar to send the sorry son of a [snip] to the digital underworld and I am constantly snared. Do I need to macro shuffle or something?

Lord_Invel

ZOS NEEDS TO IMPLEMENT AND FIX EVERYTHING THAT I LISTED HOW HARD IS THAT TO DO? NOT VERY HARD TBH. If they just fix all the things I listed pvp will flourish. They can also make pvp competitive which will also bring eso population to a new level. People are enticed by PVP action games. ZOS U ARE MISSING A BIG MONETIZATION OPTION AND THAT IS PVP.

WillhelmBlack

Agree with all of it.

LeifErickson

I still don't agree with all of this damage is out of control nonsense. If damage was out of control, then I should be able to kill everyone in Cyrodiil if not solo then at least in a small group, yet that's not the case.

anitajoneb17_ESO

ZOS cannot "listen to PvPers" because PvPers among each other never agree on anything

Lord_Invel

@LeifErickson I never said damage is over the top lol I said that battle spirit needs to be removed and soft caps should be implemented effective immediately. did u forget that battle spirit was introduced because burst was way to high.

Lord_Invel

@anitajoneb17_ESO which is why I say that we should all come together and comment on this post I created. Pretty sure every pvp player that solo pvps and group pvp can tell that what I listed is and needs to be fixed its just common sense. I'm not talking about class balance these are just game combat mechanics that are undeniably broken.

LeifErickson

Lord_Invel wrote: »

@LeifErickson I never said damage is over the top lol I said that battle spirit needs to be removed and soft caps should be implemented effective immediately. did u forget that battle spirit was introduced because burst was way to high.

You said "of course damage would be out of control without soft cap." What am I missing?

Mordors

wait pvp ? eh... not my thread xD

Lord_Invel

@LeifErickson bro I said that due to the fact that battle spirit was introduced due to the removal of soft caps. when soft caps were removed burst was way to high. I am advocating that battle spirit be removed and if it were removed we need to install soft caps. Otherwise if we just removed battle spirit damage and healing will be to high again. That is the truth lol. I never complained about damage as of now I complained about previous patches that lead to this garbage debuff known as battle spirit. Please reread that section I'm in no way trying to sound like a *** by saying that.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Lord_Invel wrote: »

@anitajoneb17_ESO which is why I say that we should all come together and comment on this post I created. Pretty sure every pvp player that solo pvps and group pvp can tell that what I listed is and needs to be fixed its just common sense. I'm not talking about class balance these are just game combat mechanics that are undeniably broken.

I was merely saying this as a joke, but it's also true. You believe that your recommendations are "obvious" and "common sense" and everyone will agree ?
I personally don't agree nor disagree nor anything. But I can certify we've seen hundreds of similar threads and none of them ever came to any kind of agreement as to what could or should be done to "improve PvP" (besides the lag and sync' issues).
Don't get your hopes up.

Lord_Invel

@anitajoneb17_ESO I know u say don't get my hopes up. But if we don't try or make a collaborated effort how will any of our ideals come to fruition. It is just simply improper to give up on anything.

Subversus

I should really give Onslaught ganking a shot...

Lord_Invel

@Subversus please don't XD

Lord_Invel

Also why are tank builds allowed in pvp zones where the goal is to kill each other and not tank a dungeon smfh, so annoying in this game that is unbelievable how easily zos encourages players to outnumber their opponent rather than learn the mechanics of the damn game.

LeifErickson

Lord_Invel wrote: »

@LeifErickson bro I said that due to the fact that battle spirit was introduced due to the removal of soft caps. when soft caps were removed burst was way to high. I am advocating that battle spirit be removed and if it were removed we need to install soft caps. Otherwise if we just removed battle spirit damage and healing will be to high again. That is the truth lol. I never complained about damage as of now I complained about previous patches that lead to this garbage debuff known as battle spirit. Please reread that section I'm in no way trying to sound like a *** by saying that.

If I remember correctly, damage reduction in battle spirit was introduced the same time soft caps were removed. It was only increased later after they also power creep stat buffed everyone so it evened out. That's why I was confused.

Lord_Invel

@LeifErickson Yeah its all good I understand my writing can be obscure sometimes lol. But i totally reject the idea of zos implementing battle spirit and taking away soft caps. Soft caps allowed for build diversity and competitive gameplay. Like when was the last time u heard a mag sorc use whitestrakes armor or play with two hand greatsword and resto staff lol. No competitive player plays like this because all of the build diversity is gone and creates a one setup one playstyle meta that u either get on board with or fall behind. Battle spirit killed build diversity. WE NEED THE SOFT CAP SYSTEM BACK PLEASE LOOK INTO IT ZOS
@Wrobel

NightbladeMechanics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b3ZzMJSQKM

Lord_Invel

@NightbladeMechanics man this is the crap I'm talking about like holy ***. This game has been out for more than three years and its still has the same bugs it contained on release and early patches. WTF is going on does zenimax just not care ? Zos is a company selling a broken product which is extremely unprofessional , have they no shame or sense of urgency or embarrassment?

SanTii.92

Refreshing and original post, well done @Lord_Invel

Mihael

I agree snares should be removed from game or given a cool down like cc (although maybe give mag dks another cool move or small buff since talons are pretty important to that class) maybe mag nb too but for sure mag specs will be fine with out encase and deserve no more buffs

Lord_Invel

FACT:

IF ZOS GOT RID OF SNARES AND POISONS AND FIXED THE STUPID GAP CLOSER ANIMATIONS IN ESO, EVERY CLASS WILL INSTANTLY BE BETTER AT SOLOING IN OPEN WORLD PVP AND INDIVIDUAL CLASS BUFFS WONT BE NEEDED AS MUCH LOL

Sigma957

But my mdk like talonings the hoards under oils as they storm the breach

Sheuib

Lord_Invel wrote: »

FACT:

IF ZOS GOT RID OF SNARES AND POISONS AND FIXED THE STUPID GAP CLOSER ANIMATIONS IN ESO, EVERY CLASS WILL INSTANTLY BE BETTER AT SOLOING IN OPEN WORLD PVP AND INDIVIDUAL CLASS BUFFS WONT BE NEEDED AS MUCH LOL

We already have unkillable builds and snares, roots, and poisoning are the only way to kill those builds. If you got rid of those we would truly have unkillable builds.

I do disagree with the gap closer snare when a person is mist form or some other kind of snare protection.

kevlarto_ESO

Until they get some dev's that understand mmo pvp combat nothing is going to change, might get worse, so many things broken then add cheats and exploits on top of that, I am amazed anyone pvps anymore, I like how these people run the meta builds and broken skills and sets and exploit and think they have skill, and when they do change something the next time you run across them they drop like butter, I had fun for a long time in pvp, did good enough for me, but just sitting back and watching and seeing the same thing over and over, I rarely pvp anymore it is no longer fun, will see what happens with Morrowind but I have zero confidence in this team to do anything right, but maybe one day they will surprise me.

When I see players that I know have been around for a long time and ones that I consider pretty good players talking out about things are not right in pvp, then I know there is a real problem.

Derra

LeifErickson wrote: »

I still don't agree with all of this damage is out of control nonsense. If damage was out of control, then I should be able to kill everyone in Cyrodiil if not solo then at least in a small group, yet that's not the case.

I think for most people it´s too extreme for both ends of the spectrum.

You can build to deal too much damage (even though i agree this might be debateable as taking too much dmg is mostly a user error) - aswell as too tanky. With the tankyness for certain builds primarily revolving around certain monster sets/low cost ultimates.

Docmandu

ESO, the only game that starts with a warm fuzzy feeling when you start your play session but always ends up in pure frustration at the end of the evening.