update: 2h weapons as 2 set items?

Argawarga

Lynx7386 wrote: »

And yet I cannot wield a frost staff + shield.

It's as tragic as it is confusing.

Strider_Roshin

Lynx7386 wrote: »

The tradeoff between dw and 2h should be sustain vs burst, not 5 pc set vs 4 pc.

*Mic drop*

SirDopey

I reckon they should leave it until after the next patch. IF the rumors are true and resource management comes back into play then it should probably be left as is - duel wielding as a magica toon will provide the trade off between an extra set piece or better resource uptime. For stamina I feel removing major brutality from DW (flying dagger) and giving it to one of the bow abilities will balance the desire between an extra slot or utility for DW vs (2h & bow).

Ultimate_Overlord

@CosmicSoul I do know what im talking about, i have a 3 yr experience of playing the game,I do both pvp and pve. All im trying to say is that buffing 2h in any way is just as ridiculous as buffing dw. Any 2h buff will further destroy pvp build diversity, and dw buff would destroy pve build diversity(if that word even applies to pve dps, cause, lets be honest, pve dps has no variety, and cant have. There is 1 best build and multiple builds that can come close, but still are not equally as successful). What i meant in the "burst weapon" sentence, is that current pve meta in pretty much all content is dot. To make 2h a weapon that can compete with dw you would have to give it at least similar dot capbilities. 2h already has a superior toolkit and burst compared to dw, giving it high dot would push it over the top.

DragonBound

Ultimate_Overlord wrote: »

@CosmicSoul I do know what im talking about, i have a 3 yr experience of playing the game,I do both pvp and pve. All im trying to say is that buffing 2h in any way is just as ridiculous as buffing dw. Any 2h buff will further destroy pvp build diversity, and dw buff would destroy pve build diversity(if that word even applies to pve dps, cause, lets be honest, pve dps has no variety, and cant have. There is 1 best build and multiple builds that can come close, but still are not equally as successful). What i meant in the "burst weapon" sentence, is that current pve meta in pretty much all content is dot. To make 2h a weapon that can compete with dw you would have to give it at least similar dot capbilities. 2h already has a superior toolkit and burst compared to dw, giving it high dot would push it over the top.

Facepalm.

Aliniel

Yes. But this has already been asked for and ofc ZOS won't make it happen for whatever reason. Let's not forget that Dual Wield still gives more Spell Power than Two Handed weapons.

Duiwel

They should do this, 2h Greatsword, Maul, Greataxe, Staves, Bow all need this.

Anyone who says no is EXTREMELY narrow minded and bias.

This is not to disadvantage you it's to help out the majority of the player base.

I know a ton of people (mostly new players) who want to play stamblades with bows.

This will assist them greatly!

It will improve overall dps in PvE content.

If you're afraid of an extra set bonus in PvP I have bad news for you...

Many of us run either x2 2h or x1 2h and x1 DW on backbar just for this bonus.

It would just make the game overall more balanced especially since they are removing WARLORD and MAGICIAN.

+1 to supporting this.

DurzoBlint13

FloppyTouch wrote: »

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

I hope not!
they would need to rework all of the weapon skill lines if they did this....IF they are at all concerned about balance. Now there are trade offs to choosing between 2H/Staff and DW. Also, it would have to cost twice as much to upgrade and craft 2H weapons.

What balance issue please explain?

scroll down a little further from where you quoted my post and you will see the explanation. I can elaborate of needed

theher0not

I hope they are. Or at least make 2h weapons way stronger tham 1 hand. If they don't count as 2 items there should be some other advantage to them.

delarb14_ESO

I would like to try a ice staff tank warden but having 2nd handed staves count as only 1 item for item sets makes this not practical. I would like to see 2hd weapons count as two items for set count purposes.

ZOS_Bill

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