Lock Alliance Faction To Account

Turelus

As Etaniel just said the ship has already sailed.

Faction restrictions are a thing of the past and there is really nothing which will turn it back to what it should have been.

Vapirko

Etaniel wrote: »

Would be wonderful to lock factions to account IF they had done it from the start of the game. Would have given a ton more incentive to play the map and boosted faction pride.

But today almost every one has made rerolls on all factions, it's too late for that.

Or just still allow any toon to be played in any alliance? Also this would allow for more fine tuned builds being able to choose from all races. D.C. Only has Breton for mag sorc and it's like 3rd choice overall.

Cogo

Well, you can choose....

Just because you CAN do something, does it mean you have to?

Humphie

Cogo wrote: »

Well, you can choose....

Just because you CAN do something, does it mean you have to?

Yeah...and I choose to play whatever faction is gatecamped at the time I play on my campaign.
You choose to not do that...it's ok...

But what is not ok is when little zerglings swap factions to zerg even more for the winning team. I see that point. But people in this thread accusing people like me of being little potatoes and switching for the easy win is just silly and triggers me. TRIGGERS MEEEEEEEEE

@NightSquirrel grrrrrrrrrr

FuriousStar

Still need to be Tamriel Hero someday, so I imagine I'll have to swap or run a different camp just for the shards, quests and delving. Pretty sure I won't be getting anywhere with zergies hawking solos.

Chair

How about....

No.

Vapirko

Chair wrote: »

How about....

No.

good argument!

Soul_Demon

Well,

Don't particularly feel it should be locked to account, but do feel it needs to be more costly to switch mid camp (900k AP) and have a cool down of say 7 days for each switch. So many players will post that they switch to play the underdog, but I have a lot of trouble believing that- Mostly because its not what I see and it goes completely against human nature.

I mostly see players switch to do all the underhanded stuff like boosting and feeding up, bypassing the faction locks in camps just to be sure they are on winning side making the camps lopsided or to try an be on leaderboards for all factions in the same camp. Of course there are the zone trolls and spys who also enjoy the easy mechanics of faction swaps. I am sure there are some who really do switch to play against the odds....but I think the reality is the majority are using that cheap swap without long cool down as 'tool' in game for all kinds of dirty play.

If you don't do that, you are not part of the problem at all....but there is indeed a problem.

technohic

I get the not buying people "Switch to play the underdog" but locking it and making sure it doesn't happen does not help.

I'm sober now and still like the idea of even letting people pick which faction they go in on and they maintain their AP. Just make it require 24 hours after a switch before they can switch again and go in on another faction and you cannot obtain emp for 24 hours after a switch either so people with the highest AP don't switch just when there is an emp push. Then you incentivise playing the lower populated factions. If you go in while the faction is the lowest, you get 50% increased AP for 1 hour. Go to the second lowest population and get 25% bonus AP. If all factions are nearly equally populated; all get 50% increase in AP.

Doesn't have to be that way; just encourage players to balance themselves.

Asgari

This is the second no fun thread by the op .. another complaining about grates lol

Vapirko

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

This is the second no fun thread by the op .. another complaining about grates lol

Well... I might admit that the grates thing was a bit of a frustration post. It honestly happens to me about once per month or less. It was particularly annoying because we had a good hand on a keep and I was just about to kill the guy at the top when this happened and it kind of put a hole in my plans. Then to top it off I got an infinite loading screen after and came here to vent. I was weak, I know. But I do stand by my belief that there needs to be more a sense of Alliance pride. Maybe you can switch after a campaign but not during. Obviously its unpopular and lots of people like to switch, I still dont understand why, theres always something to do no matter what side youre on.

Kram8ion

Humphie wrote: »

No thank you. I like to play for whatever faction needs help and not for the winning team. I also prefer to play how I want and don't let zerglings ruin that cause they switch 2 win.

Switch to help is also switch to win
Just sayin

Humphie

Kram8ion wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

No thank you. I like to play for whatever faction needs help and not for the winning team. I also prefer to play how I want and don't let zerglings ruin that cause they switch 2 win.

Switch to help is also switch to win
Just sayin

I don't know how defending the last keep missing for an overnight emping with not even half the numbers is considered as winning, but ok...I play on a very unbalanced campaign at time (Azuras) and to find fights against PEOPLE, I sometimes have to switch. I am not going to another campaign, cause I dislike CP PvP

Kram8ion

Humphie wrote: »

Kram8ion wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

No thank you. I like to play for whatever faction needs help and not for the winning team. I also prefer to play how I want and don't let zerglings ruin that cause they switch 2 win.

Switch to help is also switch to win
Just sayin

I don't know how defending the last keep missing for an overnight emping with not even half the numbers is considered as winning, but ok...I play on a very unbalanced campaign at time (Azuras) and to find fights against PEOPLE, I sometimes have to switch. I am not going to another campaign, cause I dislike CP PvP

Overnight emping may be a thing in your home town but not for the rest of the world as a whole
Every campaign is unbalanced atm and it's a campaign with a start and a finish just like a football game or any other team based activity really and swapping teams during the game, match, battle or whatever isn't the point of it
You don't Have to switch it's your choice

Humphie

Kram8ion wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

Kram8ion wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

No thank you. I like to play for whatever faction needs help and not for the winning team. I also prefer to play how I want and don't let zerglings ruin that cause they switch 2 win.

Switch to help is also switch to win
Just sayin

I don't know how defending the last keep missing for an overnight emping with not even half the numbers is considered as winning, but ok...I play on a very unbalanced campaign at time (Azuras) and to find fights against PEOPLE, I sometimes have to switch. I am not going to another campaign, cause I dislike CP PvP

Overnight emping may be a thing in your home town but not for the rest of the world as a whole
Every campaign is unbalanced atm and it's a campaign with a start and a finish just like a football game or any other team based activity really and swapping teams during the game, match, battle or whatever isn't the point of it
You don't Have to switch it's your choice

Exactly. I have the choice. And I choose to switch to have fun fights and to balance the fights. I don't even know why I justify myself....I am out!

Winnamine

So many people seem to think it's their business to tell everyone else how they should play.
If you don't like switching factions, then only play one faction. I just solved your problem

Vapirko

Winnamine wrote: »

So many people seem to think it's their business to tell everyone else how they should play.
If you don't like switching factions, then only play one faction. I just solved your problem

Not at all. That would only solve the problem if I was switching factions and complaining about it lol.

Winnamine

Vapirko wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

So many people seem to think it's their business to tell everyone else how they should play.
If you don't like switching factions, then only play one faction. I just solved your problem

Not at all. That would only solve the problem if I was switching factions and complaining about it lol.

Sigh. Ok you didn't take the snark bait. So here's an actually helpful response.
Faction switching is a self regulating system. There's only 2 types of players who switch factions when their faction is up/down.
1. Your so called "git gud" brigade. Usually good players, if sometimes a bit elitist. They'll switch from the dominant faction to the losing faction in order to get good fights...and to farm the zerglings and pugs on the winning faction.
2. The zerglings and pugs who leave their own faction when they're losing in order to play the winning faction. these players are almost universally bad, and are the natural prey of the Git Gud Brigade.
So, the zerglings will switch to the winning faction bc they hate losing, and the elitist players will switch to the losing faction to farm them. It's possibly the most balanced thing in Cyrodiil tbh.

Honestly, the bigger problem, that I've seen anyway, is the vicious cycle of a faction getting trampled, players logging off bc they feel defeated, so the faction gets trampled more bc it's bleeding population...so more people leave....and for the most part, they're not leaving for another faction, which is likely pop locked anyway, they're just going to pve or logging off the game.

Vapirko

Winnamine wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

So many people seem to think it's their business to tell everyone else how they should play.
If you don't like switching factions, then only play one faction. I just solved your problem

Not at all. That would only solve the problem if I was switching factions and complaining about it lol.

Sigh. Ok you didn't take the snark bait. So here's an actually helpful response.
Faction switching is a self regulating system. There's only 2 types of players who switch factions when their faction is up/down.
1. Your so called "git gud" brigade. Usually good players, if sometimes a bit elitist. They'll switch from the dominant faction to the losing faction in order to get good fights...and to farm the zerglings and pugs on the winning faction.
2. The zerglings and pugs who leave their own faction when they're losing in order to play the winning faction. these players are almost universally bad, and are the natural prey of the Git Gud Brigade.
So, the zerglings will switch to the winning faction bc they hate losing, and the elitist players will switch to the losing faction to farm them. It's possibly the most balanced thing in Cyrodiil tbh.

Honestly, the bigger problem, that I've seen anyway, is the vicious cycle of a faction getting trampled, players logging off bc they feel defeated, so the faction gets trampled more bc it's bleeding population...so more people leave....and for the most part, they're not leaving for another faction, which is likely pop locked anyway, they're just going to pve or logging off the game.

And a third type who switch to faction B to help stop faction A - that just kicked their ass - from gettin emp by taking the last keep from faction C.

Joy_Division

Vapirko wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

This is the second no fun thread by the op .. another complaining about grates lol

Well... I might admit that the grates thing was a bit of a frustration post. It honestly happens to me about once per month or less. It was particularly annoying because we had a good hand on a keep and I was just about to kill the guy at the top when this happened and it kind of put a hole in my plans. Then to top it off I got an infinite loading screen after and came here to vent. I was weak, I know. But I do stand by my belief that there needs to be more a sense of Alliance pride. Maybe you can switch after a campaign but not during. Obviously its unpopular and lots of people like to switch, I still dont understand why, theres always something to do no matter what side youre on.

So because you don't get it, don't understand how admittedly a lot of people like to play you want to ban it?

Spend less time standing near Alliance outpost grates and convincing yourself everyone who doesn't play the way you do is a spy, and I'm sure you'll enjoy playing a lot more.

zuto40

Winnamine wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

So many people seem to think it's their business to tell everyone else how they should play.
If you don't like switching factions, then only play one faction. I just solved your problem

Not at all. That would only solve the problem if I was switching factions and complaining about it lol.

Sigh. Ok you didn't take the snark bait. So here's an actually helpful response.
Faction switching is a self regulating system. There's only 2 types of players who switch factions when their faction is up/down.
1. Your so called "git gud" brigade. Usually good players, if sometimes a bit elitist. They'll switch from the dominant faction to the losing faction in order to get good fights...and to farm the zerglings and pugs on the winning faction.
2. The zerglings and pugs who leave their own faction when they're losing in order to play the winning faction. these players are almost universally bad, and are the natural prey of the Git Gud Brigade.
So, the zerglings will switch to the winning faction bc they hate losing, and the elitist players will switch to the losing faction to farm them. It's possibly the most balanced thing in Cyrodiil tbh.

Honestly, the bigger problem, that I've seen anyway, is the vicious cycle of a faction getting trampled, players logging off bc they feel defeated, so the faction gets trampled more bc it's bleeding population...so more people leave....and for the most part, they're not leaving for another faction, which is likely pop locked anyway, they're just going to pve or logging off the game.

i like the name, git gud brigade

Drdeath20

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

No thank you. I like to play for whatever faction needs help and not for the winning team. I also prefer to play how I want and don't let zerglings ruin that cause they switch 2 win.

So basically u like population bonus and killing weaker zerglings. Pathetic

And you like zerging and gating campaigns? You know, using your logic and all

Soo group up with 19 other specced out tryhards and go beat on the casuals some more. Your the reason zergs exist. There is zero point to any campaign bcz of players like you.

Drdeath20

Humphie wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

No thank you. I like to play for whatever faction needs help and not for the winning team. I also prefer to play how I want and don't let zerglings ruin that cause they switch 2 win.

So basically u like population bonus and killing weaker zerglings. Pathetic

So basically I like to not run in a zerg of 24, killing the 5 enemy player on the server, rolling over empty keeps.
Do you know how to play? Let me guess...console?

Let me guess too afraid to fight good players soo you had to join them to fight casuals. Its pathetic. U were definetly a pvdoor defender. Always looking for easy mode.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe if alliance swapping wasnt soo easy and guilds actually fought each other the campaigns wouldnt be soo dead.

Let me guess pc player that plays for over 100 hours a week and is always afraid to fight real competition.

Drdeath20

Its literally the gitguds vs the casuals. I just cant believe people wonder why casuals zerg or why populations are shrinking.

Satiar

I dunno who y'all think is swapping to win. There are zero guilds that do this.

Humphie

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

No thank you. I like to play for whatever faction needs help and not for the winning team. I also prefer to play how I want and don't let zerglings ruin that cause they switch 2 win.

So basically u like population bonus and killing weaker zerglings. Pathetic

So basically I like to not run in a zerg of 24, killing the 5 enemy player on the server, rolling over empty keeps.
Do you know how to play? Let me guess...console?

Let me guess too afraid to fight good players soo you had to join them to fight casuals. Its pathetic. U were definetly a pvdoor defender. Always looking for easy mode.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe if alliance swapping wasnt soo easy and guilds actually fought each other the campaigns wouldnt be soo dead.

Let me guess pc player that plays for over 100 hours a week and is always afraid to fight real competition.

I pvp about 15hrs a week.

You don't pvp at all, cause console kiddy. Don't talk to real players.

Don't forget to kiss your mom good night when you go back to the basement, bae!

@NightSquirrel I dunno how I do it.


Edit: fyi little xbox pvp player, I don't need 19 people in a group. I go with 3. Everything above 8 is a zerg to me. But you probably have no clue what I am talking about. Spare yourself an answer to this. It's all just snail poop anyways and I won't read it, nor comment it.

@Heike Pinot noir strikes again. Can you believe the kiddies today!!

Vapirko

Joy_Division wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

This is the second no fun thread by the op .. another complaining about grates lol

Well... I might admit that the grates thing was a bit of a frustration post. It honestly happens to me about once per month or less. It was particularly annoying because we had a good hand on a keep and I was just about to kill the guy at the top when this happened and it kind of put a hole in my plans. Then to top it off I got an infinite loading screen after and came here to vent. I was weak, I know. But I do stand by my belief that there needs to be more a sense of Alliance pride. Maybe you can switch after a campaign but not during. Obviously its unpopular and lots of people like to switch, I still dont understand why, theres always something to do no matter what side youre on.

So because you don't get it, don't understand how admittedly a lot of people like to play you want to ban it?

Spend less time standing near Alliance outpost grates and convincing yourself everyone who doesn't play the way you do is a spy, and I'm sure you'll enjoy playing a lot more.

Just lol at this. Spy's? Wtf are you taking about. This has nothing to do with spy's. Spend less time thinking you have any idea what I'm talking about, and get a grip. And I love playing pvp, I'm on Azuras almost everyday.

Delimber

Reasons for having toons in different factions:

1. AD and EP are pop locked, so join DC, etc.
2. DC owns the map, so hanging out on a keep hoping someone will attack it hoping for a D-Tick....thus, making no AP.
3. AD and EP are only bridge fighting which gets old in 5 minutes, so jump on to DC who is hitting Chal
4. EP is doing a scroll run aka Uber zerg
5. I identify with being yellow today...
6. My toon needs vigor
7. I want to have all faction banners in my house
....and the list can go on and on.

Bottom line, it use to be account locked, but then each faction owned its own sever.

ellahellabella

Drdeath20 wrote: »

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

No thank you. I like to play for whatever faction needs help and not for the winning team. I also prefer to play how I want and don't let zerglings ruin that cause they switch 2 win.

So basically u like population bonus and killing weaker zerglings. Pathetic

And you like zerging and gating campaigns? You know, using your logic and all

Soo group up with 19 other specced out tryhards and go beat on the casuals some more. Your the reason zergs exist. There is zero point to any campaign bcz of players like you.

Zergs exist and succeed because the current game design powers them. The more numbers the better.

The only thing players like Humpie and I do to zergs is terrify them to not stray from crown because we will make easy meat off of them if they are alone. There's an easy fix for this though, stop zerging and learn how to actually play.
Therefore players that pick zerglings off can in fact inspire a player that wants to improve to actually improve and lo! A competent pvper is born.

You are welcome

Drdeath20

Humphie wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Humphie wrote: »

No thank you. I like to play for whatever faction needs help and not for the winning team. I also prefer to play how I want and don't let zerglings ruin that cause they switch 2 win.

So basically u like population bonus and killing weaker zerglings. Pathetic

So basically I like to not run in a zerg of 24, killing the 5 enemy player on the server, rolling over empty keeps.
Do you know how to play? Let me guess...console?

Let me guess too afraid to fight good players soo you had to join them to fight casuals. Its pathetic. U were definetly a pvdoor defender. Always looking for easy mode.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe if alliance swapping wasnt soo easy and guilds actually fought each other the campaigns wouldnt be soo dead.

Let me guess pc player that plays for over 100 hours a week and is always afraid to fight real competition.

I pvp about 15hrs a week.

You don't pvp at all, cause console kiddy. Don't talk to real players.

Don't forget to kiss your mom good night when you go back to the basement, bae!

@NightSquirrel I dunno how I do it.


Edit: fyi little xbox pvp player, I don't need 19 people in a group. I go with 3. Everything above 8 is a zerg to me. But you probably have no clue what I am talking about. Spare yourself an answer to this. It's all just snail poop anyways and I won't read it, nor comment it.

@Heike Pinot noir strikes again. Can you believe the kiddies today!!

That is not a counter argument. This is just drivel