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Best Magicka DPS Class Right Now?
DivyathFyr
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Hey everyone
I have question my main is a magic sorc hes cp 130 atm but i need a little break i decided to start a alt so i first tried stamina classes as my alt i did not like the melee/stam kind of gameplay so it seems like magica is best for me only thing now is i cant decide what i want my alt to be either a magicka templer or a magicka nightblade which one has better damage? Im not rly looking for multiple roles i just want to be a mage but since i already have a sorc whats my next most powerful option? Also please dont say magica dk i dont like the dk class at all as a whole so its rly just between m templer and m nightblade
I might wanna do pvp here and there but nothing serious
Edited by DivyathFyr on March 25, 2017 4:52PM I have question my main is a magic sorc hes cp 130 atm but i need a little break i decided to start a alt so i first tried stamina classes as my alt i did not like the melee/stam kind of gameplay so it seems like magica is best for me only thing now is i cant decide what i want my alt to be either a magicka templer or a magicka nightblade which one has better damage? Im not rly looking for multiple roles i just want to be a mage but since i already have a sorc whats my next most powerful option? Also please dont say magica dk i dont like the dk class at all as a whole so its rly just between m templer and m nightblade
I might wanna do pvp here and there but nothing serious
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EldritchPenguin✭✭✭✭✭Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.Lilelle Adlis - Dark Elf Dragonknight
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✭✭Sorcerer PVE and PVP (Amazingly good Burst Damage)Edited by Lord_Eomer on March 25, 2017 4:58PM0 -
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✭In end-game PvE, the two main classes that are used are Magicka Dragonknight and Magicka Sorcerer.
DK will pull higher single target DPS and bring utility to group with Standard and engulf, but Sorcs will bring almost as much dps and are ranged.
Seeing as you are relatively new to the game though, I wouldn't worry too much about whats the best, especially when what's best changes every patch.Edited by IronCrystal on March 25, 2017 4:59PMMake PC NA raiding great again!
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✭✭✭EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
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Oompuh✭✭✭✭✭EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
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✭✭EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.@ Izaki #PCEU
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✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7sSERVER: NA | PLATFORM: PC | OS: Windows 10 | CLIENT: Steam | ESO PLUS: Yes3 -
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✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
fo youy know how old is this video? its before stam nerfs to rearming trap, etc, this videome have months where stamina was better comparable to magica...when mayve staina was better pure single target than magica now stamina is in everything inferior in pve0 -
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✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
That's no question insane DPS. Important to note that it IS out of date though. That video is from before the Major and Minor Force, and Standard nerfs. It's also only 30 seconds long, so he's got the DPS spike from Standard for almost the entire time. A longer parse done now, would be lower I'd expect. Still, super impressive.1 -
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✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7sIzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7sIzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
Yeah 30 second fight. Its too bursty to actually be a reliable comparison. Plus it is outdated. I doubt its possible to do that in a long fight in the current state of stamina classes. The DPS is insane though. Just not relevant anymore.@ Izaki #PCEU
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✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
fo youy know how old is this video? its before stam nerfs to rearming trap, etc, this videome have months where stamina was better comparable to magica...when mayve staina was better pure single target than magica now stamina is in everything inferior in pve
Really? If sorcs pull 55k dps and in that video the stam dk pulls 75k, and the video is from Feb. 2017, if stam is now second , that means stam was nerfed 20k+? Come on! I have never seen such a high nerf!SERVER: NA | PLATFORM: PC | OS: Windows 10 | CLIENT: Steam | ESO PLUS: Yes1 -
Horowonnoe✭✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
fo youy know how old is this video? its before stam nerfs to rearming trap, etc, this videome have months where stamina was better comparable to magica...when mayve staina was better pure single target than magica now stamina is in everything inferior in pve
Really? If sorcs pull 55k dps and in that video the stam dk pulls 75k, and the video is from Feb. 2017, if stam is now second , that means stam was nerfed 20k+? Come on! I have never seen such a high nerf!
The vid is not from feb 2017, its been around for a while.PC / NA
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✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7sIzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7sIzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
Yeah 30 second fight. Its too bursty to actually be a reliable comparison. Plus it is outdated. I doubt its possible to do that in a long fight in the current state of stamina classes. The DPS is insane though. Just not relevant anymore.
What you mean with a long fight? Or are you ONLY calculating dps for trials? Trials are not the only content with bosses in the game.
And burst doesn't count? So, because that group can kill any dungeon boss quickly they don't count? LOL!SERVER: NA | PLATFORM: PC | OS: Windows 10 | CLIENT: Steam | ESO PLUS: Yes0 -
xblackroxe✭✭✭✭✭EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
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✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
fo youy know how old is this video? its before stam nerfs to rearming trap, etc, this videome have months where stamina was better comparable to magica...when mayve staina was better pure single target than magica now stamina is in everything inferior in pve
Really? If sorcs pull 55k dps and in that video the stam dk pulls 75k, and the video is from Feb. 2017, if stam is now second , that means stam was nerfed 20k+? Come on! I have never seen such a high nerf!
its older, its since 2016 dont remember exactly but for now if you want to see present dps you should look atlest for dps tests at skeleton dummies.
for example Im doing 51k dps on stambled with surpise attack with full support from 1 heal and tank with powerfull assault and my friend mag dk on same buffs is doing 65k dps
I selfbuffed doing up to 37k dps on dummy while my other friend on sorc is doing 44k dps selfbuffed and only with ele drain on dummy0 -
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✭✭✭Horowonnoe wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
fo youy know how old is this video? its before stam nerfs to rearming trap, etc, this videome have months where stamina was better comparable to magica...when mayve staina was better pure single target than magica now stamina is in everything inferior in pve
Really? If sorcs pull 55k dps and in that video the stam dk pulls 75k, and the video is from Feb. 2017, if stam is now second , that means stam was nerfed 20k+? Come on! I have never seen such a high nerf!
The vid is not from feb 2017, its been around for a while.
Check the video date in YouTube from the dps guy: Feb. 2017.SERVER: NA | PLATFORM: PC | OS: Windows 10 | CLIENT: Steam | ESO PLUS: Yes0 -
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✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7sIzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7sIzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
Yeah 30 second fight. Its too bursty to actually be a reliable comparison. Plus it is outdated. I doubt its possible to do that in a long fight in the current state of stamina classes. The DPS is insane though. Just not relevant anymore.
What you mean with a long fight? Or are you ONLY calculating dps for trials? Trials are not the only content with bosses in the game.
And burst doesn't count? So, because that group can kill any dungeon boss quickly they don't count? LOL!
No need to be condescending, mate. He's saying that when people compare maximum DPS numbers, the only thing that has any meaning is a single target, sustained Trial boss fight. Dungeon parses have meaning, yes. But comparing a burst DPS dungeon fight to a 3-5 minute long Trial parse is not very significant.
The video was posted in Febuary. That doesn't tell you when it was recorded.Edited by kadar on March 25, 2017 6:15PM2 -
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✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7sIzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7sIzakiBrotherSs wrote: »EldritchPenguin wrote: »Magicka Sorcerer is currently #1 in PvE DPS. Dragonknights are a close second, followed by Templars, and finally Nightblades.
@EldritchPenguin, I have seen a Stam DK doing 75k dps. Never seen a MagSorc doing that though.
How long did the fight last? How many adds were there?
That 75k DPS was definitely not single target.
Sorcerers are capable of pulling 55k+ in single target which is not far behind a stam DK. In AoE situations they absolutely crush a stam DK in terms of DPS.
Check it yourself: http://sjbuzz.net/video/watch/vid01UnhPO2gTW7s
Yeah 30 second fight. Its too bursty to actually be a reliable comparison. Plus it is outdated. I doubt its possible to do that in a long fight in the current state of stamina classes. The DPS is insane though. Just not relevant anymore.
What you mean with a long fight? Or are you ONLY calculating dps for trials? Trials are not the only content with bosses in the game.
And burst doesn't count? So, because that group can kill any dungeon boss quickly they don't count? LOL!
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✭✭✭✭✭First, here's a clean link to the video; why people link third-party sites with a gazillion ads is beyond me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhPO2gTW7s
To be fair, it wasn't that old. It was done just before the Homestead update.IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Yeah 30 second fight. Its too bursty to actually be a reliable comparison. Plus it is outdated. I doubt its possible to do that in a long fight in the current state of stamina classes. The DPS is insane though. Just not relevant anymore.
But, yes, it is rather bursty, since it is a fully-buffed test on a target with 3 million health. PA, Alkosh, multiple horns, even had a nightblade there giving him Minor Savagery. And, yes, in addition to the burstiness, this was done during One Tamriel before the nerfs to crit and trap.
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✭@CarbonX , please read the comment directly above yours. It's all that needs to be said about the video in question. The question (Best Magicka DPS) asked in this thread has been answered.
@code65536 Thanks for the clean link. You can also include Standard to your list of things that have since been nerfed. Basically he's got full raid buffs on a burst DPS parse. And it does look damn good xDEdited by kadar on March 25, 2017 6:42PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭First, here's a clean link to the video; why people link third-party sites with a gazillion ads is beyond me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhPO2gTW7s
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kadar✭✭✭✭✭
✭The_Outsider wrote: »
Proof of what?The_Outsider wrote: »@CarbonX , please read the comment directly above yours. It's all that needs to be said about the video in question. The question (Best Magicka DPS) asked in this thread has been answered.
Not at all. No proof yet, just words.
Proof that magicka can do more dps than stamina, not just words. Words coun't for nothing without proof.
@CarbonX No one is arguing that, nor is that what this thread is about...The point we're trying make is that the video is not representative of the current state of endgame Stamina DPS for all the listed reasons. Nothing more, man.
It's still an impressive parse...Edited by kadar on March 25, 2017 6:48PM1 -
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✭✭✭The_Outsider wrote: »The_Outsider wrote: »
Proof of what?The_Outsider wrote: »@CarbonX , please read the comment directly above yours. It's all that needs to be said about the video in question. The question (Best Magicka DPS) asked in this thread has been answered.
Not at all. No proof yet, just words.
Proof that magicka can do more dps than stamina, not just words. Words coun't for nothing without proof.
@CarbonX No one is arguing that, nor is that what this thread is about...The point we're trying make is that the video is not representative of the current state of endgame Stamina DPS for all the listed reasons. Nothing more, man.
It's still an impressive parse...
I got you, np.
More on my favor then, if that video is not valid, then I suppose someone can easily prove that magicka can do more dps that stamina, fully buffed in a group.SERVER: NA | PLATFORM: PC | OS: Windows 10 | CLIENT: Steam | ESO PLUS: Yes0 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The_Outsider wrote: »The_Outsider wrote: »
Proof of what?The_Outsider wrote: »@CarbonX , please read the comment directly above yours. It's all that needs to be said about the video in question. The question (Best Magicka DPS) asked in this thread has been answered.
Not at all. No proof yet, just words.
Proof that magicka can do more dps than stamina, not just words. Words coun't for nothing without proof.
@CarbonX No one is arguing that, nor is that what this thread is about...The point we're trying make is that the video is not representative of the current state of endgame Stamina DPS for all the listed reasons. Nothing more, man.
It's still an impressive parse...
I got you, np.
More on my favor then, if that video is not valid, then I suppose someone can easily prove that magicka can do more dps that stamina, fully buffed in a group.
On a vTrial boss also please, not a 20 second fight0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The_Outsider wrote: »
Proof of what?The_Outsider wrote: »@CarbonX , please read the comment directly above yours. It's all that needs to be said about the video in question. The question (Best Magicka DPS) asked in this thread has been answered.
Not at all. No proof yet, just words.
Proof that magicka can do more dps than stamina, not just words. Words coun't for nothing without proof.
Well, it depends on the parameter of the test.
Pure single-target? Or multi-target? The old Craglorn trials had a lot of pure single-target fights--e.g., Manti and Serpent--but there isn't a single pure single-target fight in vMoL and given ZOS's current design direction, I highly doubt there will be one in the new trial.
What kinds of buffs are being provided? Stam can reach high numbers because there are simply more buffs that other players can provide. Although I don't know the exact parameters of their test, I wouldn't be surprised if Shad in that video was running NMG and Sunderflame to further shred resistance so that Cell could run precise weapons. Magicka doesn't have something comparable, but this sort of debuff stacking for stamina isn't always realistic outside of a test like this.
And of course, magicka has better survivability due to shields, which are highly favored by certain mechanics (notably, the healing debuff from Breath of Lorkhaj).
So in a pure synthetic single-target test, stamina probably still handily wins this patch. But that doesn't translate into more DPS in actual trials settings.Edited by code65536 on March 25, 2017 7:00PMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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The last few veteran Trials I've run, I was the only Stamina DPS in group. Not saying that's true across the board, but that's been my experience of late. I've also heard Meta Monkeys (players obsessed with the meta as the only viable way to play the game) yelling about how if you want to clear vMaw, you need to reroll Magicka, which is ofc garbage.The_Outsider wrote: »
Proof of what?The_Outsider wrote: »@CarbonX , please read the comment directly above yours. It's all that needs to be said about the video in question. The question (Best Magicka DPS) asked in this thread has been answered.
Not at all. No proof yet, just words.
Proof that magicka can do more dps than stamina, not just words. Words coun't for nothing without proof.
Well, it depends on the parameter of the best.
Pure single-target? Or multi-target? The old Craglorn trials had a lot of pure single-target fights--e.g., Manti and Serpent--but there isn't a single pure single-target fight in vMoL and given ZOS's current design direction, I highly doubt there will be one in the new trial.
What kinds of buffs are being provided? Stam can reach high numbers because there are simply more buffs that other players can provide. Although I don't know the exact parameters of their test, I wouldn't be surprised if Shad in that video was running NMG and Sunderflame to further shred resistance so that Cell could run precise weapons. Magicka doesn't have something comparable, but this sort of debuff stacking for stamina isn't always realistic outside of a test like this.
And of course, magicka has better survivability due to shields, which are highly favored by certain mechanics (notably, the healing debuff from Breath of Lorkhaj).
So in a pure synthetic single-target test, stamina probably still handily wins this patch. But that doesn't translate into more DPS in actual trials settings.
Agreed, Mathematical DPS potential doesn't translate into real in game effectiveness/performance.2 -
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✭✭✭The_Outsider wrote: »The_Outsider wrote: »
Proof of what?The_Outsider wrote: »@CarbonX , please read the comment directly above yours. It's all that needs to be said about the video in question. The question (Best Magicka DPS) asked in this thread has been answered.
Not at all. No proof yet, just words.
Proof that magicka can do more dps than stamina, not just words. Words coun't for nothing without proof.
@CarbonX No one is arguing that, nor is that what this thread is about...The point we're trying make is that the video is not representative of the current state of endgame Stamina DPS for all the listed reasons. Nothing more, man.
It's still an impressive parse...
I got you, np.
More on my favor then, if that video is not valid, then I suppose someone can easily prove that magicka can do more dps that stamina, fully buffed in a group.
On a vTrial boss also please, not a 20 second fight
vTrial? What about the other 99% dps content of the game (veteran dungeons, world bosses, etc).
I see a lot of people obsessed with vet trials and only vet trials.SERVER: NA | PLATFORM: PC | OS: Windows 10 | CLIENT: Steam | ESO PLUS: Yes0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The_Outsider wrote: »The_Outsider wrote: »
Proof of what?The_Outsider wrote: »@CarbonX , please read the comment directly above yours. It's all that needs to be said about the video in question. The question (Best Magicka DPS) asked in this thread has been answered.
Not at all. No proof yet, just words.
Proof that magicka can do more dps than stamina, not just words. Words coun't for nothing without proof.
@CarbonX No one is arguing that, nor is that what this thread is about...The point we're trying make is that the video is not representative of the current state of endgame Stamina DPS for all the listed reasons. Nothing more, man.
It's still an impressive parse...
I got you, np.
More on my favor then, if that video is not valid, then I suppose someone can easily prove that magicka can do more dps that stamina, fully buffed in a group.
On a vTrial boss also please, not a 20 second fight
vTrial? What about the other 99% dps content of the game (veteran dungeons, world bosses, etc).
I see a lot of people obsessed with vet trials and only vet trials.
I run dungeons in simple crafted gear because I couldn't be bothered to transfer my good dropped gear between characters. In dungeons and overland content that comprise 99% of the game, anything works. And nobody really cares about what is and isn't "best". Usually when someone asks about "best", people assume that they mean that in a competitive context.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
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- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
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flizomica✭✭✭✭✭mag sorc & mag dk
both pull excellent numbers, seen higher parses for mDK but they take up a melee spot
mag is just in a way better spot than stam atm2