Removal of cp in trueflame

oMrRust
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Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

Should bring cp back to trueflame
  • Wrekkedd
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    First off, nobody cares. Secondly, it's only for a week.
  • WalkingLegacy
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    If you play the game just for CP good riddance.
    Edited by WalkingLegacy on February 27, 2017 3:37PM
  • bottleofsyrup
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    Why does everybody act like this is permanent? :D
  • Tryxus
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    It's better this way
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  • cjthibs
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    It's temporary bruh. Get a grip.
  • Voxicity
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    Has to be a troll
  • cjthibs
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    Why does everybody act like this is permanent? :D

    Because for some people it's fun to manufacture outrage.
  • Turelus
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    OhAmex wrote: »
    Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

    There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

    Should bring cp back to trueflame

    Show me on the target skeleton where the experienced no CP players wrecked you.
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  • Ojustaboo
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    Wrekkedd wrote: »
    First off, nobody cares. Secondly, it's only for a week.

    First off, they obviously do care

    Secondly, ZoS implied that if it fixes the lag (which I doubt as we had lag before CP) , it could end up being permanent.

    The attitude of some people on this forum beggars belief
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  • Llaren_Uvayn
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    If it helps with the lag, I wouldn't mind it becoming a permanent change. Maybe it might even help balance PvP. It kind of feels like a waste of all the time spent farming Champion Points, though.
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  • cjthibs
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    This is what happens when you rely on your CP for some "added survivability."

    Muh CP! Muh CP!

    Seriously though...if they can't survive without CP they're doing something wrong...
    I find Non-CP favors survivability much moreso than it does damage.

    Could be because we have caps to defenses but not to damage/penetration? Just a thought.
  • bowmanz607
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    Ojustaboo wrote: »
    Wrekkedd wrote: »
    First off, nobody cares. Secondly, it's only for a week.

    First off, they obviously do care

    Secondly, ZoS implied that if it fixes the lag (which I doubt as we had lag before CP) , it could end up being permanent.

    The attitude of some people on this forum beggars belief

    They never said nor implied this. Cp won't be taken away. I want it to be. But it wont. This is simply one test to see ho2 and if they should change some things with cp. Not remove them.
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    I'll do the no cp test just to see what happens. I haven't played non cp for so long it might be fun, or at the very least interesting. Please stop with the Azuras for no CP campaign bit ok, there's no more than 20 people total on that campaign at any given time. Odds are the devs will find out that cp or non cp makes little or no difference in lag. Then they can move on to fixing things that are likely causing lag, like proc sets and aoe spaming.
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  • idk
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    OhAmex wrote: »
    Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

    There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

    Should bring cp back to trueflame

    It's temporary while they test. Enjoy the double AP.
  • c0rp
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    OhAmex wrote: »
    Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

    There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

    Should bring cp back to trueflame

    It's ONE week in an effort to improve the game for everyone...including YOU. GROW UP.
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
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  • Leandor
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    I'll do the no cp test just to see what happens. I haven't played non cp for so long it might be fun, or at the very least interesting. Please stop with the Azuras for no CP campaign bit ok, there's no more than 20 people total on that campaign at any given time. Odds are the devs will find out that cp or non cp makes little or no difference in lag. Then they can move on to fixing things that are likely causing lag, like proc sets and aoe spaming.

    Azura is packed full on PC-EU, second only to trueflame.

    But more importantly, ZOS needs to learn that the majority of players does not bother with reading forums. @ZOS_GinaBruno , please get the sever guys to send informational server messages on all campaigns that temporarily have CP removed. Otherwise these threads will not stop.
  • Hurika
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    I'm indifferent about the week of testing but a few thoughts that come up.....

    With stam/mag resources being harder to manage, wouldn't no CP encourage more people to use proc sets that proc off of doing any damage or taking any damage (viper, kra'gh, pirate skeleton, etc) to compensate for either dps or survivability?

    A lot of people in zone chats were talking about specific gear setups for the week of testing. If enough people change their gear/proc sets/playstyle how accurate is the test? I'm all for testing it - that's fine but the results may be somewhat skewed.

    Will there be an unintended effect that this pushes proc sets even more? Especially since ZoS has said that proc sets cause a lot of extra load/lag on servers? May be trading 1 cause of lag for another.
  • UrQuan
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    Why does everybody act like this is permanent? :D

    Because for some people it's fun to manufacture outrage.
    ^This. Exactly this.
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  • Sythen88411
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    No cp will weed out the good from the bad.
  • hmsdragonfly
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    Ojustaboo wrote: »
    Wrekkedd wrote: »
    First off, nobody cares. Secondly, it's only for a week.

    First off, they obviously do care

    Secondly, ZoS implied that if it fixes the lag (which I doubt as we had lag before CP) , it could end up being permanent.

    The attitude of some people on this forum beggars belief

    Lol, no, if it is proven that CP is the main reason to cause lag, they will take a look at all those codes behind the CP system, streamline and rewrite them so everything can become smoother.
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    cjthibs wrote: »
    Why does everybody act like this is permanent? :D

    Because for some people it's fun to manufacture outrage.

    I am outraged at your statement.
  • hmsdragonfly
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    Hurika wrote: »
    A lot of people in zone chats were talking about specific gear setups for the week of testing. If enough people change their gear/proc sets/playstyle how accurate is the test? I'm all for testing it - that's fine but the results may be somewhat skewed.

    Umm nope, it's mainly about the calculation behind the CP system.
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  • UrQuan
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    Ojustaboo wrote: »
    Wrekkedd wrote: »
    First off, nobody cares. Secondly, it's only for a week.

    First off, they obviously do care

    Secondly, ZoS implied that if it fixes the lag (which I doubt as we had lag before CP) , it could end up being permanent.
    Show me where they did that. The only things I've seen from ZOS about this event talk about it as the first of a series of tests aimed at figuring out exactly what the issues are so they can be addressed. The only implication I've seen is that this is to get baseline data without CPs so that future tests can determine where issues actually are. Nothing I've seen has implied anything regarding what solutions they may come up with to actually deal with what they uncover from these tests.
    Ojustaboo wrote: »
    The attitude of some people on this forum beggars belief
    That we agree on.
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    OhAmex wrote: »
    Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

    There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

    Should bring cp back to trueflame

    One thing you could do is google "how to leave cyrodiil".

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  • alexkdd99
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    c0rp wrote: »
    OhAmex wrote: »
    Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

    There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

    Should bring cp back to trueflame

    It's ONE week in an effort to improve the game for everyone...including YOU. GROW UP.

    Yea because your comment is something mature? All these people jumping on op need to grow up. He said nothing wrong and all these forum warriors jumped on him for a legitimate complaint.

    What's the point in having cp if you can't use them. We already have a no cp campaign if they truly just wanted to test it, they would have made azura double ap only and left everything as is.

    Also why even test removing cp of it wasn't a possibility to make it permanent. Not saying it will happen, but to act like it's not a possibility is close minded.
  • rhapsodious
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    OhAmex wrote: »
    Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

    There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

    Should bring cp back to trueflame

    It's ONE week in an effort to improve the game for everyone...including YOU. GROW UP.

    Yea because your comment is something mature? All these people jumping on op need to grow up. He said nothing wrong and all these forum warriors jumped on him for a legitimate complaint.

    What's the point in having cp if you can't use them. We already have a no cp campaign if they truly just wanted to test it, they would have made azura double ap only and left everything as is.

    Also why even test removing cp of it wasn't a possibility to make it permanent. Not saying it will happen, but to act like it's not a possibility is close minded.

    1. You can use CP in PVE still, which is the vast majority of the game.

    2. That won't work. They have a baseline for how performance works in Azura's Star with no CP, and how it works in Trueflame and Haderus with CP. They want to see the impact of CP on Trueflame and Haderus. Azura's is the control group. By comparing performance in TF and Had with no CP against Azura's, they can extrapolate the impact of CP on PVP server load. By only increasing AP in Azura's all that would do is increase the amount of people in Azura's, which wouldn't accomplish anything.

    3. They are going to test multiple possible causes of the lag and their severity and go from there. They want to see how much campaign performance is impacted by CP and, if it turns out CP is like 80% of the problem, then they will (ideally) focus their efforts on reducing the amount of calculations done in regards to CP.
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    OhAmex wrote: »
    Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

    There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

    Should bring cp back to trueflame

    It's ONE week in an effort to improve the game for everyone...including YOU. GROW UP.

    Yea because your comment is something mature? All these people jumping on op need to grow up. He said nothing wrong and all these forum warriors jumped on him for a legitimate complaint.

    What's the point in having cp if you can't use them. We already have a no cp campaign if they truly just wanted to test it, they would have made azura double ap only and left everything as is.

    Also why even test removing cp of it wasn't a possibility to make it permanent. Not saying it will happen, but to act like it's not a possibility is close minded.
    You clearly have no experience in software testing and development if you're saying that. It's to gather baseline data for all campaigns across the board so that they can make incremental changes for future tests and compare the data from those tests to the data from the baseline test in order to track down what's truly causing the issues. Once the biggest culprits have been identified then they can dig into the code for those culprits to determine what's the root cause, and implement a fix.
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  • bowmanz607
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    OhAmex wrote: »
    Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

    There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

    Should bring cp back to trueflame

    It's ONE week in an effort to improve the game for everyone...including YOU. GROW UP.

    Yea because your comment is something mature? All these people jumping on op need to grow up. He said nothing wrong and all these forum warriors jumped on him for a legitimate complaint.

    What's the point in having cp if you can't use them. We already have a no cp campaign if they truly just wanted to test it, they would have made azura double ap only and left everything as is.

    Also why even test removing cp of it wasn't a possibility to make it permanent. Not saying it will happen, but to act like it's not a possibility is close minded.

    the point is to test on a large scale. they said this. azuras is not enough population.

    the test is to see if and how much cp cause issues not whether they should be removed.
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    OhAmex wrote: »
    Doing this makes me want to quit pvp now.

    There was Azuras for no CP campaign.

    Should bring cp back to trueflame

    It's ONE week in an effort to improve the game for everyone...including YOU. GROW UP.

    Yea because your comment is something mature? All these people jumping on op need to grow up. He said nothing wrong and all these forum warriors jumped on him for a legitimate complaint.

    What's the point in having cp if you can't use them. We already have a no cp campaign if they truly just wanted to test it, they would have made azura double ap only and left everything as is.

    Also why even test removing cp of it wasn't a possibility to make it permanent. Not saying it will happen, but to act like it's not a possibility is close minded.

    Because it is a fact that Azura is less laggy than TF even when the campaign is pop-locked. Yes, Azura is pop-locked on PC-EU on prime time. And no, if it is proven that CP is the main reason to cause lag, they will take a look at all those codes behind the CP system, streamline and rewrite them so everything can become smoother.
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