When is a sorceror not a sorceror?

kenneth.friisb16_ESO

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

A magsorc meets a stamsorc... what would happen?

The walk in to a tavern with a holistic templar and discover the answer to the meaning of life, the universe and everything?

Morvane

KaiVox22 wrote: »

sorcerer
ˈsɔːs(ə)rə/Submit
noun
a person who claims or is believed to have magic powers; a wizard.

Bound Armaments
Dark Deal
Hurricane
Streak

names of classes are ugly, but class design seems good as to me.
its 4 archetypes here like 4 elements or 4 tarot colours etc.

Elsterchen

R1ckyDaMan wrote: »

When he uses swords nd is rubbish at magic.

I do not get why everyone insists that sorcerors should be outstanding with stamina abilities.

... the exact same was said about templars.

The thing is, neither of them wants to be "outstanding", but "viable" ... "on par" ... "playable" ... would really be nice for some of us.

Plus builddiversity may actually improve your experience as well, in duels, PVP and PVE. So, just give it a chance, will you?

Kram8ion

When they are wearing a bathers towel

Tryxus

KaiVox22 wrote: »

sorcerer
ˈsɔːs(ə)rə/Submit
noun
a person who claims or is believed to have magic powers; a wizard.

Bound Armaments
Dark Deal
Hurricane
Streak

Izaki

TheShadowScout wrote: »

R1ckyDaMan wrote: »

When he uses swords nd is rubbish at magic.

I do not get why everyone insists that sorcerors should be outstanding with stamina abilities.

Some people just don't like being pigeonholed into the whole sorceror thing just because they took a few sorcery correspondence classes before the imperial university closed down due to a bad case of daedric invasion... They trained their arms to be way more muscular then any of those flimsy spellslingers, carry big, sharp swords or axes, and swing them with great gusto, and as an afterthought maybe call a bit of lightning down from the sky...
...yeah, one of my alts is like that. Also, drunk, but he's a nord, so that comes with the territory...

No reason Sorcerors should get any more stamina morphs just because of those lunatics however!

If only those sharp swords would drop...




Jk I got a load of em (2 vMA Greastwords, 1 Battle Axe and 4 Mauls) I know I'm bragging...

xboxNA corin6

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

R1ckyDaMan wrote: »

When he uses swords nd is rubbish at magic.

I do not get why everyone insists that sorcerors should be outstanding with stamina abilities.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Sorcerer_(Oblivion) In past elder scrolls games a sorcerer tend to use all weapons not only just magic and had the stamina to wear heavy armor. Also sorcs in Elder scrolls online are not an archetype class. Just like the rest of the classes they are not bound by strict guidelines for what a class should be. They are just a bunch specializations.

I think you're a little bit off on this one. Your description fits the battlemage class more so than the sorcerer. The sorcerer was typically a wizard, that used heavy armor and shields. They actually did not really have any martial skills and most of the time they strayed away from alchemy which was more of a wizards thing. They also were supposed to use more touch spells and conjuration.

Also, in many other games, the understanding is
wizards: Have to study to spell cast, have their spells "prepared" pre fights, and had more knowledge of spell casting.
sorcerers: does not have to study spell casting, instead, uses the "soul" or some kind of vocation to summon spells, and did not have to prepare their spells, and were 100% ready for combat at any moment. They were more adapted than wizards, but wizards generally had more spells and knowledge in general.

Deedleqwerty

R1ckyDaMan wrote: »

When he uses swords nd is rubbish at magic.

I do not get why everyone insists that sorcerors should be outstanding with stamina abilities.

Stam Sorc here. See you in Cyrodiil.

~Deedle

Jaeysa

R1ckyDaMan wrote: »

When he uses swords nd is rubbish at magic.

I do not get why everyone insists that sorcerors should be outstanding with stamina abilities.

Look. Just because Keenlin has magic doesn't mean she's good at it. She might summon a clanfear from time to time. Or get a -little- magical help to make her blows hurt the most. But she's a warrior at heart. Which led to her not really paying as much attention as she should have in dark magic lessons. Everyone has those classes. For me it was sociology, for her it was Dark magic.

Chadak

This isn't Dungeons and Dragons. Mages don't get the crappiest HP of all classes and relegated to being physically incompetent by default.

Welcome to a Not D&D game?

BigBragg

Jaeysa

Chadak wrote: »

This isn't Dungeons and Dragons. Mages don't get the crappiest HP of all classes and relegated to being physically incompetent by default.

Welcome to a Not D&D game?

Bah, even in D&D (at least 3.5) there were builds to make your wizards more tanky and melee-focused.

Lexxypwns

ITT: OP is clueless

xboxNA corin6

Jaeysa wrote: »

Chadak wrote: »

This isn't Dungeons and Dragons. Mages don't get the crappiest HP of all classes and relegated to being physically incompetent by default.

Welcome to a Not D&D game?

Bah, even in D&D (at least 3.5) there were builds to make your wizards more tanky and melee-focused.

Still spellcasting right? Can't remember been a long time. Last time I played was 3.0. Arcane casters could cast in armor if they had still spellcasting which would make you have to use a higher level tree to cast that spell taking slots from the better spells. In 3.0 arcane spellswords were really bad actually, and using armor casting builds sucked too because their were other ways to get that AC up without giving up really good talents and feats.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

When he is dead.

Jaeysa

xboxNA corin6 wrote: »

Jaeysa wrote: »

Chadak wrote: »

This isn't Dungeons and Dragons. Mages don't get the crappiest HP of all classes and relegated to being physically incompetent by default.

Welcome to a Not D&D game?

Bah, even in D&D (at least 3.5) there were builds to make your wizards more tanky and melee-focused.

Still spellcasting right? Can't remember been a long time. Last time I played was 3.0. Arcane casters could cast in armor if they had still spellcasting which would make you have to use a higher level tree to cast that spell taking slots from the better spells. In 3.0 arcane spellswords were really bad actually, and using armor casting builds sucked too because their were other ways to get that AC up without giving up really good talents and feats.

Yeah - you had to go towards prestige classes. Elf or Human Paragon, Wizard, Fighter, Abjurant champion(Complete mage) And then Eldritch knight. You're going to be a bit behind in the spellcasting department(4 levels after you're done with paragon, fighter for two levels, and then first level of EK) but that's 3d8(Paragon)+2d4(Wizard)+2d10(Fighter)+5d10(AC)+10d6. With Mithril armor +twilight you can reduce spell failure by 30% without spending a feet.

It was a very focused build and I'm likely missing a prestige that could help, but it was very strong in the lower to mid levels.

Bobby_V_Rockit

R1ckyDaMan wrote: »

When he uses swords nd is rubbish at magic.

I do not get why everyone insists that sorcerors should be outstanding with stamina abilities.

Someone got killed by a stam sorc I'm guessing...