Vet Maw of Lorkhaj - Broken on Xbox One AGAIN!!!!!

Elsonso

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

dimensional wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

SuperLarrio wrote: »

1)Load up ps4
2)get 12 people together
3)enter vmol
4)go to second room after initial pull (after 1st suneater)
5)???
6)problem reproduced
7)enjoy the loading screens while you reload your game after freeze or dc

That's just it, we aren't running into this on our live runs on console using the repro steps above. There's something more going on that we need to identify.

How about use a non internal network? That may help.

She said "live runs" implying they are already using the live servers.

Yes but I would assume this on a zos network. Not our regular internet. Makes a huge difference when it comes to "testing"

ZOS is on the east coast. Server is in Texas. Should not be too hard to get away from the internal network.

OmniDevil

Has anyone submitted video evidence of this happening? Just curious as I'm hoping something like that may be able to put a stop to the "can't reproduce"

runagate

How about this, since I was about to say what @lordrichter was about to say:

It could well be that people on the same network will not have this problem. This is quite similar to the most common form of lagsploitation in PvP, in the those who initiate resource-costly particle spam get priority and those who are on another network connection are lagged out horribly as they are the recipients of server-side acknowledgement of and then transmittal to the players' clients, who then attempt to display and transmit the results of the initial spam on the original network connection. This is why you'll see pvp zergballs sit at the edge of a subzone and simultaneously spam AoE or healing springs or the like... it lags the servers, but due to the way the queueing and prioritization works it's far more likely to DC those not initiating the spam, than those who perform it first.

For that very reason 12 ZOS QAs sitting on the same network connection may not cause this to happen to one another, sharing the same timing and packet stream.

[ edit ] Add to this the horrible sub-zone phasing issues introduced with One Tamriel - there are just some places that are horribly broken. There's zone trash mobs that disappear when you get close in specific places (which I've reported) especially places in Stonefalls where loading screens will always happen, bad spots in Cyrodiil when transitioning between zones. For whatever reason that causes both CPU spikes and lag on the client side.

MrFish024

So what I hear is that you have made zero progress...

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Preyfar wrote: »

I think in a case like this it could potentially be character specific. Maybe re-creating the same group group, same players, same gear? I imagine you guys can replicate the data from a particular account to test that. Maybe it's the group make-up that trigger something in particular.

That's one of the things we're looking at right now, yes (among many other things.) We may have one of our guys hop into a run with a group of you that this is happening to to capture some of the data - whatever it takes to get to the bottom of this. Out of pure curiosity, has anyone tried getting to one of the spots that usually triggers DCs without using voice chat?

DRXHarbinger

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Preyfar wrote: »

I think in a case like this it could potentially be character specific. Maybe re-creating the same group group, same players, same gear? I imagine you guys can replicate the data from a particular account to test that. Maybe it's the group make-up that trigger something in particular.

That's one of the things we're looking at right now, yes (among many other things.) We may have one of our guys hop into a run with a group of you that this is happening to to capture some of the data - whatever it takes to get to the bottom of this. Out of pure curiosity, has anyone tried getting to one of the spots that usually triggers DCs without using voice chat?

Yes tried via XBL party and still did it several times. Even on normal you get booted. You don't technically get disconnected btw. The entire game just freezes solid. Voice chat still works and you end up just frozen solid. It's the same issue that we had last year.

DPShiro

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Preyfar wrote: »

I think in a case like this it could potentially be character specific. Maybe re-creating the same group group, same players, same gear? I imagine you guys can replicate the data from a particular account to test that. Maybe it's the group make-up that trigger something in particular.

That's one of the things we're looking at right now, yes (among many other things.) We may have one of our guys hop into a run with a group of you that this is happening to to capture some of the data - whatever it takes to get to the bottom of this. Out of pure curiosity, has anyone tried getting to one of the spots that usually triggers DCs without using voice chat?

Yes! Please do this! You won't need to spend many minutes to see all DCs!

Orbital

My team is in maw right now gathering evidence care to log on and see for yourself?? Xbox eu

DPShiro

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Preyfar wrote: »

I think in a case like this it could potentially be character specific. Maybe re-creating the same group group, same players, same gear? I imagine you guys can replicate the data from a particular account to test that. Maybe it's the group make-up that trigger something in particular.

That's one of the things we're looking at right now, yes (among many other things.) We may have one of our guys hop into a run with a group of you that this is happening to to capture some of the data - whatever it takes to get to the bottom of this. Out of pure curiosity, has anyone tried getting to one of the spots that usually triggers DCs without using voice chat?

Orbital wrote: »

My team is in maw right now gathering evidence care to log on and see for yourself?? Xbox eu

Yeah our team is recording and gathering even more evidence at the moment.
Contact one of us please so you can join us, our Gamertags are: DPShiro or Axphykz

Orbital

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/DPShiro/video/27975766

this is a five minute clip of vmol
before we start the trial our healer dc's
then we start our 2 tanks freeze
then one of our dps humour OG freeze's shortly after i freeze
then another dd, then another then another.. and a healer..

this is EVERY SINGLE TIME

bare in mind when i use the word dc i mean freeze with no return
im compiling individual clips into a youtube video i will post later i thought i would share this first and fast

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Finn

Vezuls

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom My guild raids Thursday, Friday, and Sunday at 8:30 pm EST. If one of you guys want to hop in we'll do a VMoL run to help gather some information. We are on Xbox NA server


my GT (or contact me via forums): TRUE Vezuls

Also, @Orbital is right. It isn't really a DC (on xbox): The game freezes and never returns, so you are forced to force quit and reboot the game.

TheWiesi

If I'm not wrong this only happens when you are in a fight. Don't know if it's helpful. Correct me if I'm wrong
And btw please do something regarding to the maelstrom bow bug. Charge is running out too fast.

Vezuls

TheWiesi wrote: »

If I'm not wrong this only happens when you are in a fight. Don't know if it's helpful. Correct me if I'm wrong
And btw please do something regarding to the maelstrom bow bug. Charge is running out too fast.

Nope, we have DC's waiting for people to come back.

Orbital

https://youtu.be/I6J3NXBNcZU

if you need anymore information please get in touch with me through this thread
when i say 'this is where DPS start to freeze' i could of worded this differently, everyone freezes everywhere.

The first three minutes are freezes/disconnects from their individual point of views, then at 3:01 the whole thing from a DPS point of view who managed to not freeze/disconnect through out the whole ordeal
i truly hope this helps because tbh there is only so much sanc i can take aa and hel ra are also like this not as bad.
check the leader boards i can say that literally no one has completed maw sinse the homestead update Xbox EU.

Thanks for finally getting back to us. Please update ASAP

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn

TARAFRAKA

How is it that every single guild on xbone can duplicate this error in every single raid....but they cant find it?
Literally, we are BORED. VMOL is broken the worst but hel ra and aa are too with sanctum being the least broken but definitely not 100%.
You lose a couple people in sanctum total. You lose urrrbody at least once in vmol.

Tremors

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

How is it that every single guild on xbone can duplicate this error in every single raid....but they cant find it?
Literally, we are BORED. VMOL is broken the worst but hel ra and aa are too with sanctum being the least broken but definitely not 100%.
You lose a couple people in sanctum total. You lose urrrbody at least once in vmol.

TRUE TARA! Bored? Chuuuu talkin bout? We got that ICP farm gurl

shack80

We also had several disconnects while playing nMoL last night. Xbox EU. We had group of 10 and at least 5 dropped out before the 1st boss. Few guys had two and one even three crashes. Nice that there are douple items, but sad that we can't even play for few mins.

TARAFRAKA

RedVyperOfDorne wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

How is it that every single guild on xbone can duplicate this error in every single raid....but they cant find it?
Literally, we are BORED. VMOL is broken the worst but hel ra and aa are too with sanctum being the least broken but definitely not 100%.
You lose a couple people in sanctum total. You lose urrrbody at least once in vmol.

TRUE TARA! Bored? Chuuuu talkin bout? We got that ICP farm gurl

Lol, I'm down to help you farm today if needed, I'm sure I'll be bored as usual since VMOL IS BROKEN STILL!
Ugh.

TARAFRAKA

Preyfar wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

SuperLarrio wrote: »

1)Load up ps4
2)get 12 people together
3)enter vmol
4)go to second room after initial pull (after 1st suneater)
5)???
6)problem reproduced
7)enjoy the loading screens while you reload your game after freeze or dc

That's just it, we aren't running into this on our live runs on console using the repro steps above. There's something more going on that we need to identify.

I think in a case like this it could potentially be character specific. Maybe re-creating the same group group, same players, same gear? I imagine you guys can replicate the data from a particular account to test that. Maybe it's the group make-up that trigger something in particular.

Well thats not hard to duplicate. You know how we do, all 600 CP, 2 Tank DKS, 2 MagDKs, 2 Templar healers, 2 magplar dps & 4 SORCS. Rip nightblades lol.

Hamiltonmath

I do appreciate that at least somebody is addressing that there is a problem.

GreatGildersleeve

It's not just vMoL that's dc'ing people. I tanked nMoL for the first time with my guild last Sunday and we were getting dc's all along the way. The 1st pull went fine but then the dc's came on the second pull, the twins, and I lost count how many we had on Rakkhat. Oddly, on Rakkhat it was always the runners who dc'd which wasn't helpful.

(XBNA)

DPShiro

Is the videos we have provided enough or do you need more @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

Tostiee

Here is a video of the first boss aswell we did on saturday if it might help. Last time around MoL was broken if you looked at the wall behind my character, you would freeze and crash hence why I am only looking at one wall.

http://xboxclips.com/Tostiee/4cf37c79-4803-4ebb-a339-59714206cb67

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Jolter

This happened last night in nAA to me as well. Plus I had 2 of the normal disconnects while I was in there where I'm fighting then suddenly I'm at the beginning screen saying it lost connection to xbox live or something (xbox live is fine, the problem is somewhere with ESO).

lefthandovgod

PSN - Lefthandovgod666

Group with me ZoS! We have 0 attempts without minimum 3 screen freezes and drops. I can give you all the data you want and need! My team wants this fixed badly.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Ainikki

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Preyfar wrote: »

I think in a case like this it could potentially be character specific. Maybe re-creating the same group group, same players, same gear? I imagine you guys can replicate the data from a particular account to test that. Maybe it's the group make-up that trigger something in particular.

That's one of the things we're looking at right now, yes (among many other things.) We may have one of our guys hop into a run with a group of you that this is happening to to capture some of the data - whatever it takes to get to the bottom of this. Out of pure curiosity, has anyone tried getting to one of the spots that usually triggers DCs without using voice chat?

Hej:), we had the same problems like everybody else. If you wanna jump into a run just msg via Xbox. We tried it without voice Chat, it's still the same.
Gt. Veiija.
Have a nice day:)

Vezuls

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom A few vids were posted here. I assume you now have the information needed?

Vezuls

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Also, are you going to make up the days of Thieve's Guild Anniversary that we (on console) will definitely miss out on.... Not only has it been weeks since we could play Maw, now there's an event rubbing in our faces that we won't even be able to do....

Buffler

Vezuls wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Also, are you going to make up the days of Thieve's Guild Anniversary that we (on console) will definitely miss out on.... Not only has it been weeks since we could play Maw, now there's an event rubbing in our faces that we won't even be able to do....

how will you cope without getting x2 of defiled whiskers?

Sovaso

Stop please! Ain't funny