[ESO][Homestead] Magicka NB Gank Build

Jules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WZHa28lhKU

pcar944

yep, and there is also Stygian set that's really cool BUT it doesn't come in Arcane

arkansas_ESO

pcar944 wrote: »

yep, and there is also Stygian set that's really cool BUT it doesn't come in Arcane

There's a unique Stygian ring, Marloweath's Torment, that drops in Arcane. Don't think you can get the necklace in anything but Robust, though.

No_True_Scotsman

Why not dark elf? You'd get another 3% out of the fire heavy.

Subversus

No_True_Scotsman wrote: »

Why not dark elf? You'd get another 3% out of the fire heavy.

Good point! I'm already playing this build on my breton (because only good looking race @_@) but I should try dark elf burst on the pts lol...

NightbladeMechanics

Exact same methodology and theorycrafting as the ganking setup I was running last October and November, but with less efficient sets and CP and minor bar differences. Adapting it for Homestead, you're not even making use of the 8% bonus single target damage from destro staff since you're not slotting a destro ability on your front bar.

Also I don't remember ever seeing you gank on your mageblade... C'mon Jules.

ssewallb14_ESO

I've been running a similar thing. Sometimes the fire staff heavy just goes where it wants, tab target/cursor or not. It's been that way since the game came out unfortunately.

You're really missing out by not having that 8% damage increase from slotting a destro ability though, it buffs this kind of build to the point where it's no longer a novelty.

NoRefunds

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Exact same methodology and theorycrafting as the ganking setup I was running last October and November, but with less efficient sets and CP and minor bar differences. Adapting it for Homestead, you're not even making use of the 8% bonus single target damage from destro staff since you're not slotting a destro ability on your front bar.

Also I don't remember ever seeing you gank on your mageblade... C'mon Jules.

She tried to use it for 20 min, could not kill anyone, switched to stamina build...lol

thankyourat

When you said soul harvest now cost 70 ultimate I cried a little

SnubbS

5x Stygi, 5x Elegant -- Rip in peace to anyone who catches that Heavy attack.

NightbladeMechanics

SnubbS wrote: »

5x Stygi, 5x Elegant -- Rip in peace to anyone who catches that Heavy attack.

Not the highest damage setup, actually. I once hit a 27.8k heavy attack, not to mention Soul Harvest in the mix.

NoRefunds wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Exact same methodology and theorycrafting as the ganking setup I was running last October and November, but with less efficient sets and CP and minor bar differences. Adapting it for Homestead, you're not even making use of the 8% bonus single target damage from destro staff since you're not slotting a destro ability on your front bar.

Also I don't remember ever seeing you gank on your mageblade... C'mon Jules.

She tried to use it for 20 min, could not kill anyone, switched to stamina build...lol

Yeaaaa no, this style ganking build actually achieves stupid high burst. Tank builds are on the menu for sure. I still have all my ganking clips...might have to do something with those.

Draxys

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

SnubbS wrote: »

5x Stygi, 5x Elegant -- Rip in peace to anyone who catches that Heavy attack.

Not the highest damage setup, actually. I once hit a 27.8k heavy attack, not to mention Soul Harvest in the mix.

NoRefunds wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Exact same methodology and theorycrafting as the ganking setup I was running last October and November, but with less efficient sets and CP and minor bar differences. Adapting it for Homestead, you're not even making use of the 8% bonus single target damage from destro staff since you're not slotting a destro ability on your front bar.

Also I don't remember ever seeing you gank on your mageblade... C'mon Jules.

She tried to use it for 20 min, could not kill anyone, switched to stamina build...lol

Yeaaaa no, this style ganking build actually achieves stupid high burst. Tank builds are on the menu for sure. I still have all my ganking clips...might have to do something with those.

Hm, do tell I could maybe see julianos or tbs to push crit/crit dmg higher.

Subversus

Draxys wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

SnubbS wrote: »

5x Stygi, 5x Elegant -- Rip in peace to anyone who catches that Heavy attack.

Not the highest damage setup, actually. I once hit a 27.8k heavy attack, not to mention Soul Harvest in the mix.

NoRefunds wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Exact same methodology and theorycrafting as the ganking setup I was running last October and November, but with less efficient sets and CP and minor bar differences. Adapting it for Homestead, you're not even making use of the 8% bonus single target damage from destro staff since you're not slotting a destro ability on your front bar.

Also I don't remember ever seeing you gank on your mageblade... C'mon Jules.

She tried to use it for 20 min, could not kill anyone, switched to stamina build...lol

Yeaaaa no, this style ganking build actually achieves stupid high burst. Tank builds are on the menu for sure. I still have all my ganking clips...might have to do something with those.

Hm, do tell I could maybe see julianos or tbs to push crit/crit dmg higher.

It's easy to figure out, there are like 4 maybe 5 total sets that magblades could use to boost max damage from stealth. Get them and test, most are cheap af.

Also @ this build, since you're already in melee range for soul harvesr there is absolutely no reason to not pop a proxy det before the gank. Can be replaced with swallow soul, because in full divines light armor I can guarantee that you won't be alive very long to be able to use that to brawl.

Rickter

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Jbugz97

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Exact same methodology and theorycrafting as the ganking setup I was running last October and November, but with less efficient sets and CP and minor bar differences. Adapting it for Homestead, you're not even making use of the 8% bonus single target damage from destro staff since you're not slotting a destro ability on your front bar.

Also I don't remember ever seeing you gank on your mageblade... C'mon Jules.

@NightbladeMechanics
so to get the 8% damage buff u have to slot a destro ability and all your ability receive the 8% damage or is it just the destro ability?

PS4_ZeColmeia

Does anyone know if the new clouding swarm works with Stygian?

Master_Kas

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Does anyone know if the new clouding swarm works with Stygian?

It doesn't since you're not invisible. It's trash.

kaithuzar

I hate this build its so stereotypical trash.
You do complete overkill damage with the resources to perform at most two rotations.
It has no 1VX capability and good luck trying to cloak away anytime over the past year!

Jules, I like fighting against you when you play DK but why are you making a build for a class that most people have never seen you play ?

I can understand the reason for using alchemist because in a fight you are likely going to pop a tripot anyways so spending a potion to kill a person isn't terrible however without using a potion you have 2400 spell damage which is enough to kill a lot of players anyway providing you sap to buff yourself to 2600 sp dmg
But even having this much damage and buff W/alchemist you end up having no sustain.
If you could slot siphoning attacks this might correct this though.

I also hate that you're running soul harvest on your front bar that should definitely be on your back bar with Destro ult on your front bar
OR meteor on your back bar rather than soul tether.

Probably the thing that drives me crazy most about this build is your 10K stamina pool!
15 K stamina is what has been needed for Magicka builds over the past six months at least; if you have 14k you can still get away with it just over 13 is pushing it a little too much imo, but anything less and you're out of your mind.

At least if you're going to be running a light armor build put the other morph of magic harness on your bar to bolster your defenses!

I get that the recommendations I am making are not for ganking & I understand you have specified that this is a pure gank build, however it just does not work at all!
(If you can get it to work then kudos to you, but I've killed many people open world that run this setup & so have a poor opinion of this playstyle)
So my recommendations are my opinion of how to play a magic night blade and actually be successful in Cyrodiil.

-Kai

NightbladeMechanics

Jbugz97 wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Exact same methodology and theorycrafting as the ganking setup I was running last October and November, but with less efficient sets and CP and minor bar differences. Adapting it for Homestead, you're not even making use of the 8% bonus single target damage from destro staff since you're not slotting a destro ability on your front bar.

Also I don't remember ever seeing you gank on your mageblade... C'mon Jules.

@NightbladeMechanics
so to get the 8% damage buff u have to slot a destro ability and all your ability receive the 8% damage or is it just the destro ability?

All single target damage.

@kaithuzar What a narrow, off-base analysis of mageblade and of this build...

thankyourat

kaithuzar wrote: »

I hate this build its so stereotypical trash.
You do complete overkill damage with the resources to perform at most two rotations.
It has no 1VX capability and good luck trying to cloak away anytime over the past year!

Jules, I like fighting against you when you play DK but why are you making a build for a class that most people have never seen you play ?

I can understand the reason for using alchemist because in a fight you are likely going to pop a tripot anyways so spending a potion to kill a person isn't terrible however without using a potion you have 2400 spell damage which is enough to kill a lot of players anyway providing you sap to buff yourself to 2600 sp dmg
But even having this much damage and buff W/alchemist you end up having no sustain.
If you could slot siphoning attacks this might correct this though.

I also hate that you're running soul harvest on your front bar that should definitely be on your back bar with Destro ult on your front bar
OR meteor on your back bar rather than soul tether.

Probably the thing that drives me crazy most about this build is your 10K stamina pool!
15 K stamina is what has been needed for Magicka builds over the past six months at least; if you have 14k you can still get away with it just over 13 is pushing it a little too much imo, but anything less and you're out of your mind.

At least if you're going to be running a light armor build put the other morph of magic harness on your bar to bolster your defenses!

I get that the recommendations I am making are not for ganking & I understand you have specified that this is a pure gank build, however it just does not work at all!
(If you can get it to work then kudos to you, but I've killed many people open world that run this setup & so have a poor opinion of this playstyle)
So my recommendations are my opinion of how to play a magic night blade and actually be successful in Cyrodiil.

-Kai

You don't really need a high stamina pool as a magblade because siphoning attacks keeps your stamina pool full. you can 1vX on a magblade with 9k stamina lol. And alchamist is great on magblade pop a potion when you are ready to execute to pump up your merciless. And it's a double health bonus

Neoakropolis

So you played this build on pts vs the 74% of the community that earns less than 20k ap an hour and its now worthy of a youtube video and forum post? *eyeroll*

Nutshotz

I can't watch Jules video past the like 3 min. The build is all messed up.

For clever/elegant to work correctly [high elf or dark elf]

Both my mNB run this build.

5 clever/5 elegant/ either 2 skoria or 1 Kena and choke thorn. Your could add in slimecraw if you want and pull merc resolve since its a Lil clunky or run 2 Kena. All depends on you and what you wanna do to min max the gear with a monster helms set or 2 monster pieces.

Bar 1: swallow soul or force pulse/crushing shock, merc resolve, piercing mark or impale, flame reach, inner light or radiant. Ult: destro/soul assault/ ice comment.

Bar 2: cloak, conceal, dbl take, cripple or siphon attacks, healing ward/dampen magic/harness magicka. Ult: soul harvest/resto ult.

Destro/resto setup

The build is a good 3 second kill build or less.

You could actually switch it up a Lil and run it like this as well

Dw/destro

Bar 1. Lotus, conceal, sap, fear, impale. Ult: soul harvest / assault

Bar2: swallow soul/force pulse/crushing shock, merc resolve, Mark, flame reach, healing ward/harness/ dampen. Ult: storm, meteor


I'm sure you could put other combo's in there. I just thru a quick dw/destro bar off of my head together. I wouldn't run it exactly like how I listed it cuz I'm at work and I just whipped the dw/destro skills together.

So same build multiple ways to run it whether it be destro/ resto or dw/destro. Either one will do good damage. It just depends on how youre playstyle is.

Now if you can survive off of low spell damage and you wanna try a good build. Try elegant/spinner. It's another 3-4 second burst build with a destro/resto but gives you that extra 4k spell pen instead of 700-800 spell damage.

blabafat

Nice work Jules!

NightbladeMechanics

@PeaNutShotz You're describing a fundamentally different play style than this build, though. And did you seriously suggest not slotting Merciless?...

IcyDeadPeople

Nice, thanks for making all these different build videos, Jules!

Do you have some footage of this one in action? I tried almost the same setup on my magicka NB last year and wasn't able to do nearly as much damage compared to mag DK with similar gear.

Recently I tried again during no-CP week and the range on impale is ridiculous now, so was trying to incorporate this. Do you cancel heavy with impale? Close the gap with lotus fan, or try to keep them ranged?

What I found seemed to work sometimes is heavy attack, flame reach, then either med/heavy+impale or crushing shock+light attack+impale

arkansas_ESO

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

Nice, thanks for making all these different build videos, Jules!

Do you have some footage of this one in action? I tried almost the same setup on my magicka NB last year and wasn't able to do nearly as much damage compared to mag DK with similar gear.

Recently I tried again during no-CP week and the range on impale is ridiculous now, so was trying to incorporate this. Do you cancel heavy with impale? Close the gap with lotus fan, or try to keep them ranged?

What I found seemed to work sometimes is heavy attack, flame reach, then either med/heavy+impale or crushing shock+light attack+impale

I've had good results with following up my heavy with a Flame Reach, and then hitting them with Swallow Soul/Impale as they're up in the air.

Xvorg

merc ressolve -> cloak -> Full heavy -> force pulse/strife - > cloak -> Full heavy -> degeneration (way better than flame reach and way cheaper too) -> cloak -> light -> light -> assasins will... don't need to go close to the enemy.

Also the combo meteor -> agony -> heavy ->force pulse.

I miss the good old days when soul assault was unblockable, there were nice combos too (full heavy + crippling + light + soul assault), now it is not worth slotting it.

Melee NB died the day ZOS nerfed proxy, and now there are just EotS spammers who believe they are melee mageblades just because they use lotus.

Anyway, thanks for the video Jules, you made me remember about how fun was playing mageblade before DB.