rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »My favorite thing is with Dodge chance being reduced 5% you would expect to see 5% less dodging. You do, but the usual suspects still dodge everything... most of the time while doing nothing at all.
The dodge stacking bug is still going strong, it just takes more time to get up to a high percentage chance as you increase it by 15% each time rather than 20%.
# Dodge casts / Percentage Dodge:
1 / 15.0%
2 / 17.3%
3 / 19.8%
4 / 22.8%
5 / 26.2%
6 / 30.2%
7 / 34.7%
8 / 39.9%
9 / 45.9%
10 / 52.8%
11 / 60.7%
12 / 69.8%
13 / 80.3%
14 / 92.3%
15 / 100.0%
So now it takes them 15 casts of a dodge skill when using the exploit to get up to 100% dodge chance. At least now it falls off if they don't refresh it every 20 seconds instead of being permanently up due to the Hist dodge bug.
EDIT: Fixed formatting
If that was the Phoenix set bug, wouldn't we see the animation of the set proccing?
No. Well the animation appears when the set does indeed proc on cooldown (every 10 min). So if you'll watch this player for 10 min straight, you're bound to see the whole fiery explosion of doom thing.
However, since all the other procs are unintended UI-wise, there's no animation. Think of it as the same bug than the Hist Bark one. While the player exploiting Hist did see the "shuffle" animation with white streaks around his body, others didn't.
LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
LeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
I'd like to see those videos if they are current patch.
That first clip is very suspicious. I've seen this more than a few times with people, but they always end up dying after a while so I chalk it up to some serious health desyncs. I guess it's possible phoenix bug could be back.
Not health desync. You can't heal yourself with health desync and they are clearly healing. The dying after a while is probably a setting as they don't look suspicious and can claim it was a bug if questioned. Reminds me more of when the clown and his bishop were using ce. Not Phoenix either. They keep doing it over and over Phoenix can only be used like what? once in every 10 minutes?
That first clip is very suspicious. I've seen this more than a few times with people, but they always end up dying after a while so I chalk it up to some serious health desyncs. I guess it's possible phoenix bug could be back.
Not health desync. You can't heal yourself with health desync and they are clearly healing. The dying after a while is probably a setting as they don't look suspicious and can claim it was a bug if questioned. Reminds me more of when the clown and his bishop were using ce. Not Phoenix either. They keep doing it over and over Phoenix can only be used like what? once in every 10 minutes?
They didn't use CE, there was a bug with mist form and costumes allowing them to bug out their mitigation
RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
it's a bug that existed a few months ago. ESO has a strange way of reintroducing patched bugs.
I know how the bug works, I have tested it myself on trash mobs and reported it. To show you proof would show everyone howLeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
I'd like to see those videos if they are current patch.
As much as I'd like to show you proof, posting video would show how it's done(if Crown is talking about how the dodge chance stack used to work) which I simply won't do as everyone in Cyrodiil will be doing it.
There is already a handful of people doing it now and it's fairly obvious to spot if you were around the last time this bug was in the game.
I watched a guy tonight dodge 23 attacks in a row...that's not going to happen on a 15% chance...just not going to happen. The last time this bug was around a few were banned for it after it was fixed. I suspect it will happen again. It's painfully obvious who's using it.
LeifErickson wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
it's a bug that existed a few months ago. ESO has a strange way of reintroducing patched bugs.
I know how the bug works, I have tested it myself on trash mobs and reported it. To show you proof would show everyone howLeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
I'd like to see those videos if they are current patch.
As much as I'd like to show you proof, posting video would show how it's done(if Crown is talking about how the dodge chance stack used to work) which I simply won't do as everyone in Cyrodiil will be doing it.
There is already a handful of people doing it now and it's fairly obvious to spot if you were around the last time this bug was in the game.
I watched a guy tonight dodge 23 attacks in a row...that's not going to happen on a 15% chance...just not going to happen. The last time this bug was around a few were banned for it after it was fixed. I suspect it will happen again. It's painfully obvious who's using it.
I play in Cyrodiil about every day and I have never seen this kind of thing.
LeifErickson wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
it's a bug that existed a few months ago. ESO has a strange way of reintroducing patched bugs.
I know how the bug works, I have tested it myself on trash mobs and reported it. To show you proof would show everyone howLeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
I'd like to see those videos if they are current patch.
As much as I'd like to show you proof, posting video would show how it's done(if Crown is talking about how the dodge chance stack used to work) which I simply won't do as everyone in Cyrodiil will be doing it.
There is already a handful of people doing it now and it's fairly obvious to spot if you were around the last time this bug was in the game.
I watched a guy tonight dodge 23 attacks in a row...that's not going to happen on a 15% chance...just not going to happen. The last time this bug was around a few were banned for it after it was fixed. I suspect it will happen again. It's painfully obvious who's using it.
I play in Cyrodiil about every day and I have never seen this kind of thing.
LeifErickson wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
it's a bug that existed a few months ago. ESO has a strange way of reintroducing patched bugs.
I know how the bug works, I have tested it myself on trash mobs and reported it. To show you proof would show everyone howLeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
I'd like to see those videos if they are current patch.
As much as I'd like to show you proof, posting video would show how it's done(if Crown is talking about how the dodge chance stack used to work) which I simply won't do as everyone in Cyrodiil will be doing it.
There is already a handful of people doing it now and it's fairly obvious to spot if you were around the last time this bug was in the game.
I watched a guy tonight dodge 23 attacks in a row...that's not going to happen on a 15% chance...just not going to happen. The last time this bug was around a few were banned for it after it was fixed. I suspect it will happen again. It's painfully obvious who's using it.
I play in Cyrodiil about every day and I have never seen this kind of thing.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
it's a bug that existed a few months ago. ESO has a strange way of reintroducing patched bugs.
I know how the bug works, I have tested it myself on trash mobs and reported it. To show you proof would show everyone howLeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
I'd like to see those videos if they are current patch.
As much as I'd like to show you proof, posting video would show how it's done(if Crown is talking about how the dodge chance stack used to work) which I simply won't do as everyone in Cyrodiil will be doing it.
There is already a handful of people doing it now and it's fairly obvious to spot if you were around the last time this bug was in the game.
I watched a guy tonight dodge 23 attacks in a row...that's not going to happen on a 15% chance...just not going to happen. The last time this bug was around a few were banned for it after it was fixed. I suspect it will happen again. It's painfully obvious who's using it.
I play in Cyrodiil about every day and I have never seen this kind of thing.
Yah it's hard to notice when it's your faction primarily abusing it. That's not to say it's isolated among them, but it's where people that try to hit them see it.
I mean... lol. Haven't you ever wondered how "DC super hero" can charge into groups of players and survive? They survive because most attacks are dodged. What they are doing, play style-wise.. isn't rocket science. It's heavy attack->critical charge, dawnbreaker (the exploited version that's an unbreakable and unavoidable knockdown) and execute. All while taking no damage because they dodge so many attacks.
Make an AD toon (or EP) and try it out. You will be flabbergasted.
ArcVelarian wrote: »ZOS needs to go ask Blizzard how they do their Perma-bans in Overwatch and then come back and implement them here.
LeifErickson wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
it's a bug that existed a few months ago. ESO has a strange way of reintroducing patched bugs.
I know how the bug works, I have tested it myself on trash mobs and reported it. To show you proof would show everyone howLeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
I'd like to see those videos if they are current patch.
As much as I'd like to show you proof, posting video would show how it's done(if Crown is talking about how the dodge chance stack used to work) which I simply won't do as everyone in Cyrodiil will be doing it.
There is already a handful of people doing it now and it's fairly obvious to spot if you were around the last time this bug was in the game.
I watched a guy tonight dodge 23 attacks in a row...that's not going to happen on a 15% chance...just not going to happen. The last time this bug was around a few were banned for it after it was fixed. I suspect it will happen again. It's painfully obvious who's using it.
I play in Cyrodiil about every day and I have never seen this kind of thing.
Post that showing how to use exploit will be deleted with speed of light and user's forum account temporaly banned for 3-7 days, at best scenario. Several temporal bans = 1 permaban. Go figure why people who was on forum since launch prefer not to post it everywhere on forum.LeifErickson wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
it's a bug that existed a few months ago. ESO has a strange way of reintroducing patched bugs.
I know how the bug works, I have tested it myself on trash mobs and reported it. To show you proof would show everyone howLeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
I'd like to see those videos if they are current patch.
As much as I'd like to show you proof, posting video would show how it's done(if Crown is talking about how the dodge chance stack used to work) which I simply won't do as everyone in Cyrodiil will be doing it.
There is already a handful of people doing it now and it's fairly obvious to spot if you were around the last time this bug was in the game.
I watched a guy tonight dodge 23 attacks in a row...that's not going to happen on a 15% chance...just not going to happen. The last time this bug was around a few were banned for it after it was fixed. I suspect it will happen again. It's painfully obvious who's using it.
I play in Cyrodiil about every day and I have never seen this kind of thing.
That's because it's hugely exaggerated or doesn't exist at all. I myself, and everyone I know, haven't seen anyone do some of the *** people have claimed to have seen on this thread. Yeah phoenix was bugged, and it wouldn't surprise me if the bug came back seeing as Zos never truly fix bugged sets (TBS being an example). Yeah other *** does look dodgy, like dodge chance, but it's the same people who claim to have seen things completely crazy that no one else has seen on every thread. Yet they won't provide evidence, even though from past experiences it's obvious, if you want Zos to do something about "bugs" and "exploits", you have to make it public. They'll use the excuse "everyone" will use it. Well I think everyone using it for upto a week and it being fixed is a better solution rather than some people using it, and eventually it growing in use as people tell the secret (which inevitably happens) and it taking months to fix (Hist Bark, TBS, vMoL for example).
Post that showing how to use exploit will be deleted with speed of light and user's forum account temporaly banned for 3-7 days, at best scenario. Several temporal bans = 1 permaban. Go figure why people who was on forum since launch prefer not to post it everywhere on forum.LeifErickson wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
it's a bug that existed a few months ago. ESO has a strange way of reintroducing patched bugs.
I know how the bug works, I have tested it myself on trash mobs and reported it. To show you proof would show everyone howLeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.
Proof?
The fact that certain groups of players do nothing but dodge attacks isn't proof?
I've got videos and videos of it in action... all sent to ZOS. They did nothing to the cheaters.
The hint you require might really sour you on the game, it's all your heroes.
I'd like to see those videos if they are current patch.
As much as I'd like to show you proof, posting video would show how it's done(if Crown is talking about how the dodge chance stack used to work) which I simply won't do as everyone in Cyrodiil will be doing it.
There is already a handful of people doing it now and it's fairly obvious to spot if you were around the last time this bug was in the game.
I watched a guy tonight dodge 23 attacks in a row...that's not going to happen on a 15% chance...just not going to happen. The last time this bug was around a few were banned for it after it was fixed. I suspect it will happen again. It's painfully obvious who's using it.
I play in Cyrodiil about every day and I have never seen this kind of thing.
That's because it's hugely exaggerated or doesn't exist at all. I myself, and everyone I know, haven't seen anyone do some of the *** people have claimed to have seen on this thread. Yeah phoenix was bugged, and it wouldn't surprise me if the bug came back seeing as Zos never truly fix bugged sets (TBS being an example). Yeah other *** does look dodgy, like dodge chance, but it's the same people who claim to have seen things completely crazy that no one else has seen on every thread. Yet they won't provide evidence, even though from past experiences it's obvious, if you want Zos to do something about "bugs" and "exploits", you have to make it public. They'll use the excuse "everyone" will use it. Well I think everyone using it for upto a week and it being fixed is a better solution rather than some people using it, and eventually it growing in use as people tell the secret (which inevitably happens) and it taking months to fix (Hist Bark, TBS, vMoL for example).
There are players running around that 10 solid players can't kill. It's sad.
https://youtu.be/GmX2dTb8Yu8Most_Awesome wrote: »Let that Major Evasion carry you to 1vX Stardom
Most_Awesome wrote: »Let that Major Evasion carry you to 1vX Stardom
Not that CE was ever gone but yeah. Found this nice Vid. Its the second time I saw one using that kind of whatever it is. One time it was a sorc and this nice templar. So you cant attack them at all when they are low health.
[Edit to remove videos for naming and shaming and inappropriate title]
Most_Awesome wrote: »Let that Major Evasion carry you to 1vX Stardom
A combat log showing multiple dodges will happen also if someone does 2-3 dodge rolls in a row.