If that was the Phoenix set bug, wouldn't we see the animation of the set proccing?
KisoValley wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »ZOS updates and implements checks and defenses for CE/3rd party software and someone with time on their hands updates cheat engine to continue working. Sounds like the normal struggle that takes place in the modern digital age.
Uh, no. Someone reading this might think ZOS does everything possible to limit cheating. It does not.
ESO does not have anywhere close the same kind of tools and policies to mitigate cheating as as games by companies like Valve and Blizzard do. ZOS is extremely negligent in this regard. It's hard to imagine they planned a competitive AAA MMO without any kind of robust anti-cheat tools.
ZOS only does what is extremely easy, ineffective -- and most of all -- inexpensive.
wow has tons of farm bots trade bots and more still, bots are Long gone in teso
also valves vac is a pice of *** that doesnt work near as good as many say. planty of utuber posting Videos of them cheating and vac does ***
You realise why wax crashed from 10kish to less than 5k on PC EU? Bots.
There was a recent wave of getting rid of bots only a week or two ago.
Yeah, long gone lmao.
KisoValley wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »ZOS updates and implements checks and defenses for CE/3rd party software and someone with time on their hands updates cheat engine to continue working. Sounds like the normal struggle that takes place in the modern digital age.
Uh, no. Someone reading this might think ZOS does everything possible to limit cheating. It does not.
ESO does not have anywhere close the same kind of tools and policies to mitigate cheating as as games by companies like Valve and Blizzard do. ZOS is extremely negligent in this regard. It's hard to imagine they planned a competitive AAA MMO without any kind of robust anti-cheat tools.
ZOS only does what is extremely easy, ineffective -- and most of all -- inexpensive.
wow has tons of farm bots trade bots and more still, bots are Long gone in teso
also valves vac is a pice of *** that doesnt work near as good as many say. planty of utuber posting Videos of them cheating and vac does ***
You realise why wax crashed from 10kish to less than 5k on PC EU? Bots.
There was a recent wave of getting rid of bots only a week or two ago.
Yeah, long gone lmao.
the wax crashed cuz the instant repsawing pigs in carglon 1 year ago,
leather is easyer to farm than ore or Wood.
i wish they would get rid of the ap farming bots in bleakers
KisoValley wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »ZOS updates and implements checks and defenses for CE/3rd party software and someone with time on their hands updates cheat engine to continue working. Sounds like the normal struggle that takes place in the modern digital age.
Uh, no. Someone reading this might think ZOS does everything possible to limit cheating. It does not.
ESO does not have anywhere close the same kind of tools and policies to mitigate cheating as as games by companies like Valve and Blizzard do. ZOS is extremely negligent in this regard. It's hard to imagine they planned a competitive AAA MMO without any kind of robust anti-cheat tools.
ZOS only does what is extremely easy, ineffective -- and most of all -- inexpensive.
wow has tons of farm bots trade bots and more still, bots are Long gone in teso
also valves vac is a pice of *** that doesnt work near as good as many say. planty of utuber posting Videos of them cheating and vac does ***
You realise why wax crashed from 10kish to less than 5k on PC EU? Bots.
There was a recent wave of getting rid of bots only a week or two ago.
Yeah, long gone lmao.
the wax crashed cuz the instant repsawing pigs in carglon 1 year ago,
leather is easyer to farm than ore or Wood.
i wish they would get rid of the ap farming bots in bleakers
KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »ZOS updates and implements checks and defenses for CE/3rd party software and someone with time on their hands updates cheat engine to continue working. Sounds like the normal struggle that takes place in the modern digital age.
Uh, no. Someone reading this might think ZOS does everything possible to limit cheating. It does not.
ESO does not have anywhere close the same kind of tools and policies to mitigate cheating as as games by companies like Valve and Blizzard do. ZOS is extremely negligent in this regard. It's hard to imagine they planned a competitive AAA MMO without any kind of robust anti-cheat tools.
ZOS only does what is extremely easy, ineffective -- and most of all -- inexpensive.
wow has tons of farm bots trade bots and more still, bots are Long gone in teso
also valves vac is a pice of *** that doesnt work near as good as many say. planty of utuber posting Videos of them cheating and vac does ***
You realise why wax crashed from 10kish to less than 5k on PC EU? Bots.
There was a recent wave of getting rid of bots only a week or two ago.
Yeah, long gone lmao.
the wax crashed cuz the instant repsawing pigs in carglon 1 year ago,
leather is easyer to farm than ore or Wood.
i wish they would get rid of the ap farming bots in bleakers
Lol...
Wax was 10k during Soth patch lmfao. That isn't 1 year ago. 1T gave bots an easier time of farming leather because it was possible to farm anywhere with battle levelling.
Delusional...
KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »ZOS updates and implements checks and defenses for CE/3rd party software and someone with time on their hands updates cheat engine to continue working. Sounds like the normal struggle that takes place in the modern digital age.
Uh, no. Someone reading this might think ZOS does everything possible to limit cheating. It does not.
ESO does not have anywhere close the same kind of tools and policies to mitigate cheating as as games by companies like Valve and Blizzard do. ZOS is extremely negligent in this regard. It's hard to imagine they planned a competitive AAA MMO without any kind of robust anti-cheat tools.
ZOS only does what is extremely easy, ineffective -- and most of all -- inexpensive.
wow has tons of farm bots trade bots and more still, bots are Long gone in teso
also valves vac is a pice of *** that doesnt work near as good as many say. planty of utuber posting Videos of them cheating and vac does ***
You realise why wax crashed from 10kish to less than 5k on PC EU? Bots.
There was a recent wave of getting rid of bots only a week or two ago.
Yeah, long gone lmao.
the wax crashed cuz the instant repsawing pigs in carglon 1 year ago,
leather is easyer to farm than ore or Wood.
i wish they would get rid of the ap farming bots in bleakers
Lol...
Wax was 10k during Soth patch lmfao. That isn't 1 year ago. 1T gave bots an easier time of farming leather because it was possible to farm anywhere with battle levelling.
Delusional...
yea maight be true with battlevling. however, homestead gave bots a awesome possibility to farm aps and the Prices for akaviri and cyro sets will drop such as the wax you mentioned. so you blame the wax bots but exploit ap such in the same way, pathetic.
well pretty much all sets including overland sets such as desert rose will drop to since they are buyable with aps to.
not to mention the legendary necklace/ringes
so thus Kind of bots acctually destroy the whole market not only wax
KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »ZOS updates and implements checks and defenses for CE/3rd party software and someone with time on their hands updates cheat engine to continue working. Sounds like the normal struggle that takes place in the modern digital age.
Uh, no. Someone reading this might think ZOS does everything possible to limit cheating. It does not.
ESO does not have anywhere close the same kind of tools and policies to mitigate cheating as as games by companies like Valve and Blizzard do. ZOS is extremely negligent in this regard. It's hard to imagine they planned a competitive AAA MMO without any kind of robust anti-cheat tools.
ZOS only does what is extremely easy, ineffective -- and most of all -- inexpensive.
wow has tons of farm bots trade bots and more still, bots are Long gone in teso
also valves vac is a pice of *** that doesnt work near as good as many say. planty of utuber posting Videos of them cheating and vac does ***
You realise why wax crashed from 10kish to less than 5k on PC EU? Bots.
There was a recent wave of getting rid of bots only a week or two ago.
Yeah, long gone lmao.
the wax crashed cuz the instant repsawing pigs in carglon 1 year ago,
leather is easyer to farm than ore or Wood.
i wish they would get rid of the ap farming bots in bleakers
Lol...
Wax was 10k during Soth patch lmfao. That isn't 1 year ago. 1T gave bots an easier time of farming leather because it was possible to farm anywhere with battle levelling.
Delusional...
yea maight be true with battlevling. however, homestead gave bots a awesome possibility to farm aps and the Prices for akaviri and cyro sets will drop such as the wax you mentioned. so you blame the wax bots but exploit ap such in the same way, pathetic.
well pretty much all sets including overland sets such as desert rose will drop to since they are buyable with aps to.
not to mention the legendary necklace/ringes
so thus Kind of bots acctually destroy the whole market not only wax
@KisoValley Uhm since when does Cyrodiil PVP give you Dreugh Wax, or am I missing something ? And you can't possibly be serious when you say that a dozen players farming 40k motifs during the night is somehow more gamebreaking than the many blatant bots running around every zone and getting way more gold than the PVPers could ever hope to accomplish ?
EDIT : My bad, had to reread three times to understand what he was trying to say.
Akaviri motifs have dropped prior to this patch. Desert Rose being nerfed, its prices have dropped considerably too regardless of the amount of weapons available for purchase. Whereas for Spinner, Spriggan, Sun and all these fancy reward box sets, the drop chance is so ridiculously low, that the prices have stayed consistent throughout the first two weeks of the patch.
Your turn, Sir.
KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »ZOS updates and implements checks and defenses for CE/3rd party software and someone with time on their hands updates cheat engine to continue working. Sounds like the normal struggle that takes place in the modern digital age.
Uh, no. Someone reading this might think ZOS does everything possible to limit cheating. It does not.
ESO does not have anywhere close the same kind of tools and policies to mitigate cheating as as games by companies like Valve and Blizzard do. ZOS is extremely negligent in this regard. It's hard to imagine they planned a competitive AAA MMO without any kind of robust anti-cheat tools.
ZOS only does what is extremely easy, ineffective -- and most of all -- inexpensive.
wow has tons of farm bots trade bots and more still, bots are Long gone in teso
also valves vac is a pice of *** that doesnt work near as good as many say. planty of utuber posting Videos of them cheating and vac does ***
You realise why wax crashed from 10kish to less than 5k on PC EU? Bots.
There was a recent wave of getting rid of bots only a week or two ago.
Yeah, long gone lmao.
the wax crashed cuz the instant repsawing pigs in carglon 1 year ago,
leather is easyer to farm than ore or Wood.
i wish they would get rid of the ap farming bots in bleakers
Lol...
Wax was 10k during Soth patch lmfao. That isn't 1 year ago. 1T gave bots an easier time of farming leather because it was possible to farm anywhere with battle levelling.
Delusional...
yea maight be true with battlevling. however, homestead gave bots a awesome possibility to farm aps and the Prices for akaviri and cyro sets will drop such as the wax you mentioned. so you blame the wax bots but exploit ap such in the same way, pathetic.
well pretty much all sets including overland sets such as desert rose will drop to since they are buyable with aps to.
not to mention the legendary necklace/ringes
so thus Kind of bots acctually destroy the whole market not only wax
@KisoValley Uhm since when does Cyrodiil PVP give you Dreugh Wax, or am I missing something ? And you can't possibly be serious when you say that a dozen players farming 40k motifs during the night is somehow more gamebreaking than the many blatant bots running around every zone and getting way more gold than the PVPers could ever hope to accomplish ?
EDIT : My bad, had to reread three times to understand what he was trying to say.
Akaviri motifs have dropped prior to this patch. Desert Rose being nerfed, its prices have dropped considerably too regardless of the amount of weapons available for purchase. Whereas for Spinner, Spriggan, Sun and all these fancy reward box sets, the drop chance is so ridiculously low, that the prices have stayed consistent throughout the first two weeks of the patch.
Your turn, Sir.
im sry, im not talking with banned Players. there arnt on my Niveau.
but just to Name one, akaviri dropped for 15-20k the past week,
Publius_Scipio wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »ZOS updates and implements checks and defenses for CE/3rd party software and someone with time on their hands updates cheat engine to continue working. Sounds like the normal struggle that takes place in the modern digital age.
Uh, no. Someone reading this might think ZOS does everything possible to limit cheating. It does not.
ESO does not have anywhere close the same kind of tools and policies to mitigate cheating as as games by companies like Valve and Blizzard do. ZOS is extremely negligent in this regard. It's hard to imagine they planned a competitive AAA MMO without any kind of robust anti-cheat tools.
ZOS only does what is extremely easy, ineffective -- and most of all -- inexpensive.
This is actually disingenuous of you to say. No one on these forums (or any other player in the normal course of things) knows why ZOS does or doesn't "do things". So maybe it is your opinion they don't have the best anti-cheat software out there because they are negligent, but you don't have actual evidence or answers to prove negligence on their part.
We have no idea what discussions and why certain decisions are made internally at ZOS. We may not always agree with what ZOS does or doesn't do (and it is surely our right to do so) but we can't just point the finger and say they are negligent. I have no idea why certain anti-cheat software is or isn't implemented. I don't know if ZOS had discussions or didn't, weighed the pros and cons of certain software, etc etc. I would give the smallest percent of a chance to the answer actually being ZOS doesn't care.
And quite frankly I finished telling you that Miat is ex-KGB and Spetsnaz.... He is a current player.... And your concern was solely focused on ZOS...?
rfennell_ESO wrote: »My favorite thing is with Dodge chance being reduced 5% you would expect to see 5% less dodging. You do, but the usual suspects still dodge everything... most of the time while doing nothing at all.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »My favorite thing is with Dodge chance being reduced 5% you would expect to see 5% less dodging. You do, but the usual suspects still dodge everything... most of the time while doing nothing at all.
The dodge stacking bug is still going strong, it just takes more time to get up to a high percentage chance as you increase it by 15% each time rather than 20%.
# Dodge casts / Percentage Dodge:
1 / 15.0%
2 / 17.3%
3 / 19.8%
4 / 22.8%
5 / 26.2%
6 / 30.2%
7 / 34.7%
8 / 39.9%
9 / 45.9%
10 / 52.8%
11 / 60.7%
12 / 69.8%
13 / 80.3%
14 / 92.3%
15 / 100.0%
So now it takes them 15 casts of a dodge skill when using the exploit to get up to 100% dodge chance. At least now it falls off if they don't refresh it every 20 seconds instead of being permanently up due to the Hist dodge bug.
EDIT: Fixed formatting
rfennell_ESO wrote: »My favorite thing is with Dodge chance being reduced 5% you would expect to see 5% less dodging. You do, but the usual suspects still dodge everything... most of the time while doing nothing at all.
The dodge stacking bug is still going strong, it just takes more time to get up to a high percentage chance as you increase it by 15% each time rather than 20%.
# Dodge casts / Percentage Dodge:
1 / 15.0%
2 / 17.3%
3 / 19.8%
4 / 22.8%
5 / 26.2%
6 / 30.2%
7 / 34.7%
8 / 39.9%
9 / 45.9%
10 / 52.8%
11 / 60.7%
12 / 69.8%
13 / 80.3%
14 / 92.3%
15 / 100.0%
So now it takes them 15 casts of a dodge skill when using the exploit to get up to 100% dodge chance. At least now it falls off if they don't refresh it every 20 seconds instead of being permanently up due to the Hist dodge bug.
EDIT: Fixed formatting
rfennell_ESO wrote: »My favorite thing is with Dodge chance being reduced 5% you would expect to see 5% less dodging. You do, but the usual suspects still dodge everything... most of the time while doing nothing at all.
The dodge stacking bug is still going strong, it just takes more time to get up to a high percentage chance as you increase it by 15% each time rather than 20%.
# Dodge casts / Percentage Dodge:
1 / 15.0%
2 / 17.3%
3 / 19.8%
4 / 22.8%
5 / 26.2%
6 / 30.2%
7 / 34.7%
8 / 39.9%
9 / 45.9%
10 / 52.8%
11 / 60.7%
12 / 69.8%
13 / 80.3%
14 / 92.3%
15 / 100.0%
So now it takes them 15 casts of a dodge skill when using the exploit to get up to 100% dodge chance. At least now it falls off if they don't refresh it every 20 seconds instead of being permanently up due to the Hist dodge bug.
EDIT: Fixed formatting
LeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »My favorite thing is with Dodge chance being reduced 5% you would expect to see 5% less dodging. You do, but the usual suspects still dodge everything... most of the time while doing nothing at all.
The dodge stacking bug is still going strong, it just takes more time to get up to a high percentage chance as you increase it by 15% each time rather than 20%.
# Dodge casts / Percentage Dodge:
1 / 15.0%
2 / 17.3%
3 / 19.8%
4 / 22.8%
5 / 26.2%
6 / 30.2%
7 / 34.7%
8 / 39.9%
9 / 45.9%
10 / 52.8%
11 / 60.7%
12 / 69.8%
13 / 80.3%
14 / 92.3%
15 / 100.0%
So now it takes them 15 casts of a dodge skill when using the exploit to get up to 100% dodge chance. At least now it falls off if they don't refresh it every 20 seconds instead of being permanently up due to the Hist dodge bug.
EDIT: Fixed formatting
How do you know this? Have you tested it?
LeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »My favorite thing is with Dodge chance being reduced 5% you would expect to see 5% less dodging. You do, but the usual suspects still dodge everything... most of the time while doing nothing at all.
The dodge stacking bug is still going strong, it just takes more time to get up to a high percentage chance as you increase it by 15% each time rather than 20%.
# Dodge casts / Percentage Dodge:
1 / 15.0%
2 / 17.3%
3 / 19.8%
4 / 22.8%
5 / 26.2%
6 / 30.2%
7 / 34.7%
8 / 39.9%
9 / 45.9%
10 / 52.8%
11 / 60.7%
12 / 69.8%
13 / 80.3%
14 / 92.3%
15 / 100.0%
So now it takes them 15 casts of a dodge skill when using the exploit to get up to 100% dodge chance. At least now it falls off if they don't refresh it every 20 seconds instead of being permanently up due to the Hist dodge bug.
EDIT: Fixed formatting
How do you know this? Have you tested it?
rfennell_ESO wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »My favorite thing is with Dodge chance being reduced 5% you would expect to see 5% less dodging. You do, but the usual suspects still dodge everything... most of the time while doing nothing at all.
The dodge stacking bug is still going strong, it just takes more time to get up to a high percentage chance as you increase it by 15% each time rather than 20%.
# Dodge casts / Percentage Dodge:
1 / 15.0%
2 / 17.3%
3 / 19.8%
4 / 22.8%
5 / 26.2%
6 / 30.2%
7 / 34.7%
8 / 39.9%
9 / 45.9%
10 / 52.8%
11 / 60.7%
12 / 69.8%
13 / 80.3%
14 / 92.3%
15 / 100.0%
So now it takes them 15 casts of a dodge skill when using the exploit to get up to 100% dodge chance. At least now it falls off if they don't refresh it every 20 seconds instead of being permanently up due to the Hist dodge bug.
EDIT: Fixed formatting
How do you know this? Have you tested it?
From observation it's obvious there is a group of players abusing this.
It's been an issue for a long while now.
I can give you a hint about who... they mostly make 1vx videos and say salt a lot.
LeifErickson wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »My favorite thing is with Dodge chance being reduced 5% you would expect to see 5% less dodging. You do, but the usual suspects still dodge everything... most of the time while doing nothing at all.
The dodge stacking bug is still going strong, it just takes more time to get up to a high percentage chance as you increase it by 15% each time rather than 20%.
# Dodge casts / Percentage Dodge:
1 / 15.0%
2 / 17.3%
3 / 19.8%
4 / 22.8%
5 / 26.2%
6 / 30.2%
7 / 34.7%
8 / 39.9%
9 / 45.9%
10 / 52.8%
11 / 60.7%
12 / 69.8%
13 / 80.3%
14 / 92.3%
15 / 100.0%
So now it takes them 15 casts of a dodge skill when using the exploit to get up to 100% dodge chance. At least now it falls off if they don't refresh it every 20 seconds instead of being permanently up due to the Hist dodge bug.
EDIT: Fixed formatting
How do you know this? Have you tested it?
LeifErickson wrote: »@RinaldoGandolphi @rfennell_ESO
I don't care if "it's obvious" or that I should "trust you." If you are going to make these claims, you have to provide proof. And yes, please do give me a hint who it is that is doing it.